Hey guys, would like to know if any of you guys here plays TCG or CCG. I am thinking of starting A Game Of Thrones but there are not too many ppl interested in my circle heheh so cannot start yet.

Currently playing VS System which is based on Marvel and DC comic characters. I co-own a kiosk in Amcorp Mall called Toybox that sells TCG /CCG as well as figurines, let me know if any of you is interested in A Game Of Thrones.

I only play Magic: The Gathering.... other tcg/ccg i'm not so familiar...

Haha well, if you want to start VS System (based on comic characters) you can come over to Toybox, 1st floor amcorp mall. We are giving away a free deck if you buy a starter from us.

Magic.. i stopped playing Magic about 4 years back

but the new expansion Ravnica has gathered quite a big following... we have lots of drafters for Ravnica

Actually, i stopped playing magic since 2 or 3 years ago... coz 2 expensive... still like the game but no $$ 2 continue.... only n c the cards n stuff... i dont understand wat is a 'VS System (based on comic characters)' can explain more on it??? n about Ravnica, i found it very very interesting bcoz of it's multi multi color.... can make very good combo.

VS is basically a trading card game somewhat alike Magic. However, Magic is set in a magical scenario. VS system is based on the comic world, MArvel and DC comics..... so you have characters like Spiderman, Batman so on and so forth. The objective of the game is to reduce your opponents endurnce from 50 to 0 or more.

There are plot twists, locations, characters and equipments to play with.

I still have my Magic sets untill Apocalyspe and The other TCG I play before is Magi Nation.

So , any gamers who would like to play with out to date decks?

Hey Oni Kabuto,

Perhaps you would like to drop by my kiosk in amcorp mall to check out the new sets or figurines on the 1st floor, its called Toybox =)

i haf magic cards.. from ice age, vission... all the way to weatherlight..
haha.. anyone interested???

Because Ravnica's the best thing that ever came out since Odyssey (Onslaught block sucked, Mirrodin is hell with affinity, and Kamigawa thingy was weak). That, and the ridiculously beautiful artwork in their cards too (and teh gold borders! TEH GOLD BORDERS IS TEH BEAUTIFUL!).

Sure , someday I will

Gold Borders in Magic now?

if u got card list mayb those interested will show up...

Im still playing VS Systems ... still using my trusty Curve Sentinel deck. Hehehe ... ppl at Toybox might know me. . Anyway .. just started Magic again bcos of Ravnica, the set is awesome. Im in the mist of building a W/R Aggo deck that currently need Jitte (Jitte = MtG card) badly.

just started playing mtg coz one of my frenz convinced me to play..n now, im addicted only hav boros (ravnica) deck + some cards from boosters..thinking of constructing a boros+selesnya deck.. or mebbe boros+spiritbane(champions of kamigawa)..

This post has been edited by x800: Oct 31 2005, 02:07 PM

i used to play magic during their 3rd edition then stop around ice age edition. was wayyyyyyy back then since i play. at that time i also played star trek, guardians.

i hav collected some marvel super heroes trading cards way back while i was standard 5 i think. got the whole set, now i only left wit 3 quarter. most of it went missing

Hi ... i just finish constructing my WWR deck ... basicly is boros deck but mine its not a Ravnica block deck ... bcos I have Glorious Anthem in my deck ... now im looking for Hounds and Jitte.

WWR?its a white weanie deck + some reds from boros eh?can u enligthen me more on that deck?

glorious anthem - enchantment - creatures u control get 1/1 - 3 mana cost..nice..

im currently looking for more direct spells to accompany my lightning helix.any suggestions?

p/s - currently looking for 2x Leave no Trace cards..

This post has been edited by x800: Nov 1 2005, 01:31 PM

The WWR is a great deck and its fast, its more a cheap deck bcos u dun need alot or rares unlike the U/B Dimir deck. Glorious Anthem works well with my deck but Im still testing it, some WWR deck does not include Anthem. Its more towards a personnal choice.

Lightning Helix is a must in the deck ... and u need 4 copies of it. Here are some of my favourite RED direct spells to go along with the Lightning Helix and they are Char and Shock. Hope this helps.

imo,having Anthem is also kewl, since u can summon many creatures early..and give them all +1/+1.

hurm,for me to cast those spells,i also need some defending creatures rite?im thinking of getting some Torpid Moloch - 3/2 defender for 1 mana..

To cast those spells as in Shock and Char ... u do not need defending creatures. U got any extra cards for sale or trade ??

nbooi u got anyway i can get rib of my mage knight stuffs...there is like no one playing it now...heard u guys also hav RPG sessions so how's it going on now

Hey cool pajamas,

You can actually place yr cards at Toybox... come around next week coz the guy in charge of MAgic will be tehre... Mon - Fri... he (Hong) can prob help u sell yr magic cards. Right now, the Ravnica singles are going out like crazy...

We are having a VS System hobby league Tomorrow at 2.30pm.
If you guys have nothing better to do, why not drop by Amcorp Mall 1st floor =) hehehhe

You can guys can surf www.metagame.com or www.vsdojo.com/forums if you wanna check out what is VS system before coming over physically =)

i played Magic from Planeshift till Scourge.. cant go on because of money problem. Best expansion for me is Tempest and Invasion

I have to agree with you .. the best magic set is Tempest but currently to me the best is Ravnica ... very cool set. Btw .. anyone here got Jitte ... im looking for 4 copies of it. I have already ask my fren from Toybox to look for me.

jittes are very expensive as they are usable in most decks. the last time i checked, they were going about $50 per piece... IF the owners are willing to let them go. just be careful wen buying those sought-after cards. they might get banned wen they become TOO hot. (remember ravager, aether vial...? ohh the pain...)



got pernicious deed? me want.



playing white = wrath of god. playing white but wanna spend less $$$ = ghostly prison, faith's fetters, pacifism. playing green = craven cayatid. burn cards like shock and char is good too, but u tend to run out of steam when they run out of cards or just cant keep up with the swarm of creatures. (pyroclasm comes to mind)

i stop playing magic 4 years ago anyone want to buy my collection??

i stop playing magic 4 years ago anyone want to buy my collection

post ur card n post ur price.... let others see wat kind of collection u have...

mostly from 3th ed too erm marcardian i think......i buy like a packet or two once in a while last time......

how to list 2k ++ cards siau meh....

i got
green: elves deck
red: goblin deck (with all kind of goblin, plus goblin grenade), direct damage deck (lightning bolt, incenerate and bla bla bla)
black: discard deck (all kind or discard spell, combo with the rack)
white: creature deck (mostly one mana for 1/1 eg. tundra wolf, savanah lion then i power up with crusade +1/1 to all white creture)
blue: counterspell deck..

i also dunno how to start....
elvis archer, bird of paradise, lotus petal, sword to ploshare, ......i think if want to list whole day also can finish...

Hey olkooi ... im interested in Birds of Paradise and Wrath of God if u have them. If u have em .. please let me know how many quantites.

i am now at australia....
so i wont be able to sell my cards...
but once i get back to malaysia by the end of this year i will try to scan my card and post them up....
sorry for the inconvenient...

dude, do u have savannah lion and glorious anthem? how much are u willing to sell em? (if u have, that is )

Yo bro ... i got ur PM ... I have already replied.

yup have both of them...
glorious anthem = +1/1 to all you creature 3 mana casting rite??

yup. wats the price you're prob selling it?

the price you have to offer ler....i dint play for like 4 years de i also dunno the rate.....you dont con me with the price can de...i plan to get rid of all my MTG card when i go back to malaysia...

i use to play magic of the gathering but i stopped a long time ago. ah yes and i also played pokemon

why so many ppl discontinued playing magic? i use to play it donkey years ago, too expensive to continue. mayb i should consider selling off my cards. will list it down when i go back to my hometown...

Well me too. discontinued playing magic. Vey hot in my studying years. Now no more .I think you need a crowd to get it excited. If not, it will be slowly out. Well anyone tried LOTR and Pokemon before? Heard they are quite good too.

Haha ... LOTR TCG died long time ago. Decipher (the makers of LOTR TCG) screwed things up. My cousin and I used to be a very active player until Decipher screwed it up. Just imagine, u will have to pay USD$1.00 to get rakings in a sanction tourney. To me ... thats a ripped off.

Ok Guys,

There is a VS System 10K tournament coming up in Gamecon Mid Valley Exhibition Hall (next to Nike shop on the 3rd floor) this December 3rd and 4th. Competition will be JLA sealed (DC Comics) Justice League of America expansion.

Top 24 gets USD200, price money increases as you get into top 8. Champion bags USD2500. JLA set will be released sometime next week or on the thrid week of November. As it is sealed, new players will have time to practise.

For those who are interested, can email me at booi.nicholas@gmail.com or come see us at Toybox located on the first floor of Amcorp Mall PJ.

Alternatively, you can email us at toybox.op@gmail.com which is the Toybox's email address if you dont get a reply from me.

Normally, the Pokemon players are aged around max 17. The rest wil convert to more mature games.

reasons are they are too expensive, they are no longer popular, shops like novel hut close, everyone grow up and think the card game is childish....

yeah thats true and another factor is that its just paper and eventually ends up in ur dark cupboard. sigh i dun even noe what happened to my cards. some got stollen too

Well ... most of em got better card game to spend their money on. As for me .. i was playing Legend of Five Rings .. then I moved to Magic .. after that I whn over to LOTR TCG and now im playing VS. Currently playing Magic and VS ... but I prefer VS. So ... u guys guess how much money i spend on cards

But it was worth it all the way. Will be going for VS tourney this thursday at Toybox, it will be my 1st tourney since 6 months ago.

Well, i guess the main reason is they are expensive. As for shildish, I will have to disagree.... it is another form of game. Too many people are involved in electronic gaming (PC, PSP, PS2.. etc) and giving up on card games, DND, board games and such. A PS2 dvd costs you only RM4- RM5 per title, while cards can go up to RM150 or more per card.

That is because they are all imported from US and other western countries where their currency is stronger than ours. If you happen to buy books / comics, you will notice the difference in price for English books vs Chinese books. English books / comics costs so much more compared to Chinese books. That is because of of the countries economy / currency VS the other countries currency.

Well, i would like to think that every hobby in Malaysia is a luxury. Everything is expensive here in Malaysia. Even reading is very very expensive. The cards are only USD2.50 per pack compared to RM10 per pack. If you are in US, you can buy 4 packs with 10 bucks compared to the guy in Malaysia who can only buy one pack for 10 bucks, exhange rates aside please. We are talking about dollar to dollar here.

I am into mountain climbing, an average backpack of 60+10 litres costs you as much as 650bucks compared to 250 elsewhere where people make the same money as us here.

Malaysian's in general do not READ!!!

therefore, the card gaming community grows too slowly... in order to play, one has to think, communicate and read in English... many Malaysians are lacking in this skill, =)

which is why most graduates find it hard to get a job... they cant freaking speak proper English... let me know what you think about this.

Most people in the gaming scene (that I know of) are from English educated background or Chinese educated but has a strong grasp of English. Therefore, IMHO, for the community to pick up, we need educated people who reads. There certainly are no Samseng's in the community that I know of.

Another reason is probably due to lack of support from the creators of the card games as well as lack of marketing activities. Not too many people are exposed to card games.

For example, take a look at VS. every week, there will be at least 2 tourneys, each gives away a minimum of RM25 to the winner. Thats RM50 a week if you win both. Every month there will be a bigger tournament with USD250 for the winner. And of course, not to mention 10K tournaments which gives out USD2500 to the winner. 1st runner up gets USD800... top 8 USD400 top 23 USD200.

The game will not die out as long as there are support from the creators. Malaysia is one of the slowest market to pick it up despite the size of our country as well as the number of our population. Heck singapore probably has more players than the whole of Malaysia.

who got played Harry Potter tcg??

hmm... true this is the first time i heard of VS.

am very interested, but sadly, nobody around me even know what is a TCG.

would like to go to that toybox but dunno where la. live in serdang.

i always play pokemon card before.. but now i play more to the uno.. i love that gameee

Its great to know that there are players who wanna try out VS. If u wanna goto Toybox and learn on VS, I dun mind showing you the way perhaps we could go together. You have to take a KTM from Serdang to KL Sentral, the Ill meet you there and we take the LRT to Taman Jaya. Its very easy.

Normally Toybox will have tourney on every Thursday at 2.00pm (Session1) and 8pm (Seesion2), I will be there for both session.

Toybox is in amcorp Mall Petaling Jaya... =) 1st floor.
Hey, Xeno, are you karry?

Yeah ... Im Karry, were you there yesterday at Amcorp TB. I was playing the Curve Sentinel deck ... was really a sucky day for me as my curve did not come out and I miss my drops.

uhhh... then starter deck + some extra card(booster pack) etc.. i need how many decent $ to play?



because end of year, very pk..haha

Yuyuyu, Toybox constructs a playable deck for every noob who buys a starter pack from us at RM48.00. We will ascertain your style of play and construct your free deck based on common and uncommons ie: control deck / beat deck / off-curve decks / defensive decks. And if you want to pack in some rares, we sell them at about 30-40% off market rate for all cards belonging to the shop.

Do drop by on Saturdays or any weekdays as the VS guys will be around. Hong keeps the store during the weekdays, he is bespectacled, has short hair (crew cut) while myself, Vincent (bald) and Nick (bespectacled, short hair) rotates to look after the place during Saturdays. Sunday is Pokemon day so dont go there on Sundays if you wanna play VS!!! =)

So i would say, RM48 would be enough to get you started. You can join our tourneys on Thursday, there are two sessions, one in the afternoon, and one at 8pm. Entry is RM10. Winner gets RM25 and no packs while first runner up gets 2 packs of booster.. the rest one booster each. We have got 10 new players recruited in the past 3 weeks so its not too late to join in. =)

Hey Karry,

I was the guy who registered you guys for the tourney. Heard you won the RM25 in the 2pm session. Well done! I was running my MK-Underworld concealed deck. Got 2 packs, lost the first place to Vincent.

Oh yeah, Karry, please come to the shop to collect your JLA pack for the 8pm session which you also participated in. I am not sure if we have the packs in or not, best check with Hong before coming over.

Haha .. my guess was right .. it was u that day. Anyway .. the 2pm session that I won was not really a fair match bcos my matches are with new players and some more Im using a well known Curve Sentinel deck (my version will be Curse Sentinel )

Yeah .. I still have to collect the JLA pack on the 8pm session last time. I will be there this coming thursday but most prolly i will not be playing the 2pm session unless my Avengers Reservist deck is ready. Cya this Thursday.

Btw ... anyone from Klang who plays VS ... please PM me okie.


This post has been edited by XenoFr3ak: Nov 14 2005, 05:43 PM

hi guys...i used to play Magic TG...stopped long ago hehehe
It was nice while it lasted, but now I have 'RM3000-5000' in cards hahaha
actually closer to RM10 of cardboard.

I gave most of my power and recent cards to another friend, and he in turn also lost interest. I think he sold my cards and kept the money.. bugger!!

What i have left, every once in a spring cleaning while, i dust them off and see the collection.

Any of you guys won a tourney before? My younger bro used my creations to win a few local tourneys...ah..the memories.

sealed deck... my favourite.... if join normal tourneys sure will lose coz no money make super RARE deck... those who got the $$ will hv more chances to win coz afford to make RARE deck... but sealed deck all same card worth... only c little luck n lot of skills...

The problem with MTG is it's getting more & more outrages in terms of pricing. Those rares are sooooo crazily over-priced it detters the interest. To top it off, there are some lcly players during tourney which incidentally are from Century Comics in old klang road. I'm a mature player who has been in & out of the MTG scene, recently I've just packed 2 huge boxes of cards into cold storage including countless decks, while dusting my complete collection of certain blocks into the cupboard. Guess I'm retired from MTG scene. Perhaps later when the group's interest is strong, I might come back.

The MTG scene here in Malaysia is strong same goes for VS Systems. Is just that there are not many HUGE tournament here in Malaysia. Compare to US and Singapore .... over here the MTG tourney really sux.

Recently I just started MTG back but I told myself it will be fun and some old cards came back into action but I decide to stick with VS Systems due to its regulars tourney and a big event happening soon, its the VS Systems Kuala Lumpur 10K tournament.

Only us can bring up this 2 games into a stronger level of play. VS Systems is growing stronger every day. How about try to come for the Malaysia GameCon-1 that will be held in Midvalley on December 3-4, 2005. Its a convention on Trading Card Games, RPG, Board games, etc..etc.

M'sia GameCon u say? Betcha I'll be there! Hopefully it's half of what it is in US then I'll be happy to attend otherwise, I'm outta here. As for VS system, perhaps I'll drop by Amcorp then someone can show me how this thing works maybe I can start something new to do.

As for MTG, u r absolutely right about the tourney in M'sia. It sux big time, gone are the creativity & fun. It's more like a duel of who has the best draw from their 'net-decks'. Copycats, can't come up with their own original winning decks. My last tourney I was dueling with a youngster who hasn't even past spm telling me that I should concede because he has a higher rating. I proceed to smoke him 2 rounds straight dealing his 1st lost for the day.

This post has been edited by metalfire: Nov 16 2005, 03:04 PM

Yeah .... do drop by the GameCon-1. Btw, if u are thinking of coming to Amcorp mall and wanna give VS a tryout ... i would recommend u come on Thursday afternoon where most of us will be there and gladly teach you the game mechanics.

Yeap... Thurs afternoons consists mostly of noobs are there are still school going kids. The 8pm crowd are mostly working adults and some college students.

do u at there always ?

coz I am MTG player also. But some of the cards I get from Wolf Shop lar.

yeah, sealed decks are my fav's too.
I'm never too interested in the big tourneys myself, due to the fact that many of these 'players' are extreme asses. I absolutely abhor those who split up my deck to reshuffle. what you call that?

Friday night magic is the way to go, that's when i show them what is the power of a Black+White deck!

Alrite, perhaps next Thur evening I'll drop by Amcorp around 8pm and someone can show this old noob here the mechanics of this VS system. I'm quite a big fan of Marvel superheroes back when I was still collecting comics.

As for MTG, I think sealed deck is the way to go as this levels the playing field. Most FNM's are dominated by copycat net-decks. Unless the organizer changes the rules a bit. It's so hard to find a group that enjoys other formats like 2headed giants, 3v3 or even FFA.

This post has been edited by metalfire: Nov 18 2005, 09:27 AM

Ah, retired MTG player here... Stopped after Torment due to finiacial constraint. Ah I miss Magic >"< might get back into in later, when i have more time and money to spare.

Ahhh...same here too, retired after completed my collection of Mirrodin. So from Darksteel to current Ravnica & 9th Ed totally lost touch because the group's interest died out.

Wow...I forget which MTG phase did I stopped. Should be torment too.
Mine used to be a control-psychatog deck. Basically I am a controller freak player last time. with mana in hand, bye bye all things and cast psychatog...and wins LOL

ps: I still have some cards, all in an album for those rares and hard to find cards. Maybe one day I'll drop by Amcorp there

This post has been edited by rukawa: Nov 18 2005, 12:01 PM

i think, i stopped during tempest set. 3 months per expansion. quite expensive to me.

you got abeyance?

same here. you start to get addicted when suddenly all those ideas that could lead to the top killer deck. then you'll start buying and buying. i used to bot mine from comics corner in yow chuan plaza

as i was saying, these people from WOTC churn out new expansions 4 times a year. if really want a great deck, gotta spend lots of serious $$ lor

been playing shandalar ever since, any new versions of the game? the1 i have is only til 4th ed.

During Odyssey block, I used to play (1) Blue/Black Upheaval-Psycatog, (2) Blue/Green Aggro & (3) Red/Black LD. Most fun I had was with the Psycatog untill Astral Slide came along in Onslaught. Then I shifted to play my LD deck while building up for a Black Deck for Mirrodin. That's where I've stopped, my black deck has been in cold storage since along with my entire MTG collection & other cards from other previous expansions. Those were the good ol days.

Woa, shandalar...it's been quite some time I've heard of that being mentioned before. It's a good computer game based on MTG. I still have the game in my win98 pc and I occasionally play it from time to time.

Now got the official MTG:Battlegrounds pc game which is ok only. U can give it a try on this one if you've a good computer, because there's a lot of 3D stuffs going around on this.

Yeah I agree with you on WOTC releasing 1 block of 3 expansions per year. It can cost a whole lot! Even trying to build a Tier2 deck cost somewhere between RM300-400, don't even mention Tier1 which can cost up to RM500-700. The worst part is if you're unlucky and the card or cards get banned/nerfed, then yr deck is screwed = money wasted.

This post has been edited by metalfire: Nov 18 2005, 02:00 PM

Hahaha... Well guys, VS system 10K tournament is this Dec 3 - 4th. format is sealed JLA expansion. Just came out last week. So still got time to practise.

I am not always there, but you can talk to Hong (Mon-Fri) or anyone keeping shop on Sat.. like i said, just dont go on Sunday (Pokemon day). =)

Yeap... i find the MTG cards a tad exp compared to VS System. I stopped MTG during the 4th ed... 1998 if i am not mistaken =)

4th Ed Oh yeah...the days i pawned a lot of ppl with my poison counter deck LOL
I dun care about your life, i just need to get you 10 poison counters LOL

If you wanna find out more about VS system, please go to www.vsdojo.com/forums

Only the forum is up, the site is still in progress coz its a volunteer project thing, most of the designers get paid in Extended Art cards or Alternate Art cards =). Its a joint venture between hobby shops in Philippines, Singapore and Malaysia (Toybox).

We are doing what we can to enlarge the community. Players who are eligible are signed up for team Toybox, who in turn sends them to competitions out of Malaysia. They have been to 10K Manilla and 10K Singapore and were in the top 4 in both countries.

Oh, the current 10K Kuala Lumpur champion is also a part of team Toybox. there are 6 team members right now.

hahaha rukawa,

i mostly played witha black deck..... terror was my fave

man, you guys still remember your card names..

All i remember was my completed collection of Fires of Yavimaya deck that mustve cost me RM600...thinking of it still hurts.
Urza's rage was all the rage then lol, 2 shots and bye bye....

I was active during 3rd-4th ed, and 7th ed...


WOTC churns out too much cards too fast, what with the need to support their pro circuit USD1mil top prize.
What i hate most is the introduction of lousier and lousier cards...like forcing us to pay for inferior stuff.
If i not mistaken, currently Blue got no more counterspell. Can you believe that?

Urza Rage is good~

Ah i miss my Deed-Terminator Machine Head....
Sold my entire collection to a few friends when i stopped, so if restart to play have to buy all over gain shesh~!

hmm... i was wrong into thinking that MTG cards would be cheaper as there are so many players around =)

in fact, with so many players around, i would assume that there would be surpluses of cards. Anyhow, as it is a hobby, i think its still cheaper than other hobbies like playing RC which constantly need petrol, racing real cars which also consumes petrol.... drinking and smoking where it burns money faster than you can say " I wish i was playing cards insetad of drinking and smoking" muahahaha

I am surprised no one views TCG's as a cheaper way of spending time compared to the other activities. Besides, its healthy as long as it does not turn into an addiction. =)

well, unfortunely it turns into an addiction with most of us

hahhah.. well said, but then again, addiction to anything is dangerous. Alcohol, sex, drugs, masturbation, food, anything turns unhealthy once its an addiction.

MTG is a very expensive hobby to go into. Imagine investing about RM700 for ONE good tourney capable deck, that's like buying a PS2 already. We haven't count the tourney fees, the weekly drafting, and other misc cards that we buy to build our fun or 2nd/3rd deck and to top it off, it only last about for at most 1 year before you'll need to re-invest in another deck next year. Are you gonna buy another PS2 next year? Also the environment is not conducive to grow as a MTG player unlike in S'pore/Aussie/US where playing MTG is so much different. The card pool is so much lesser here. I was active in the past and I've to go down to S'pore to get my cards for tourney because those fellas here are just too selfish to let go some cards.

Actually reading is the most cheapest hobby. 1 book dunno take how long to read

LOLS, yeah. MTG is expensive, i still remember the horror i had when i calculated the amount i spent on it...;;

Reading, yeah, very cheap and reusable with no new expansions

aha.. i disagree with reading being the cheapest hobby. Its not how fast you read, its the cost of the book. A paperback is around RM35, hard cover easily RM100. A book a month at the very least, plus magazines, comics, i actually stopped buying re3aders digest coz of the price.

I dont drink but i still think drinking is the most exp hobby. A casual drinker spends RM100 a week, while a heavy drinker prob RM300 a week..... =)

and all it does is to destroy your systems once its consumed.

PS2... you probably wont buy one PS2 a year, but wat about PS2 in January, XBox in June, PSP in November... hah! think about it.