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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Mar 7 2012, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Mar 7 2012, 09:20 AM)
What will be the key driver for the property price to drop? Nowadays many ppl can hold so many properties.
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sometime got fire sale with 10-15% below market price due to some owner give up to hold it with asking higher price, but it won't represent the market, last 2 month got one singaporean owner let go his 10 units MK Banyan with 10% below price, all finish sapu in few days time. i can see if one willing to let go with lower price, another willing to replace as new owner.
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those condo above 500k is not for fresh grade, there's plenty of 100-200k subsales apartment out there, once again, i'm telling the same thing.
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post Mar 8 2012, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Mar 8 2012, 03:16 PM)
u develop 100-200k apartment for them to grab?  hmm.gif  all the fresh grad will like u.  biggrin.gif

i think even ajib kor also unable to give this kind of offer...  hmm.gif
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is subsales, not new launch. read carefully


Added on March 8, 2012, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(katijar @ Mar 8 2012, 03:31 PM)
u ask fresh grads stay in 100k low cost ah... dunno they will rage or not..
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what's the problem with apartment

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post Mar 8 2012, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Mar 8 2012, 04:29 PM)
Back 12 years ago,
Flat cost RM30k - 100k
Apartment cost RM100k - 250k
Condo cost RM 200k - 350k
High End Condo cost RM350k - millions

Last time, fresh graduate are able to purchase apartment to condo. Now can only buy flat.

Imagine people earning less than RM2k.
Last time can buy flat, now can only rent.

Something is not right. What you think?
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2k income still can afford 100k subsales flat
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post Mar 9 2012, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Mar 9 2012, 06:05 PM)
大馬家庭的購買國內平均房產的可負擔比例(平均家庭收入/平均房屋貸款供款)已接近歷史高峰,主要是屋價升幅落後收入 >>> GREAT!

大馬房價走勢向來與收入成長一致,不過,此趨勢卻在1997/98年發生亞洲金融風暴之後扭轉,屋價大幅落後人均收入 >>> GREAT GREAT!

特別是目前國內的平均房產可負擔比例達到新高點,換句話說,人民購買房屋的能力已達到最高水平。>>> GREAT GREAT GREAT!

雖然國內一些主要地區包括吉隆坡城中城、滿家樂的高級公寓市場供應過剩,價格在過去數年急挫但肯定不算泡沫。>>> Prices plunge doesn't mean bubble pops? or it didn't have a bubble to begin with.

過去數年來,住宅房產新供應成長大幅度縮減,不過,屋價卻沒有相應揚升。該行預估目前完整磚屋住宅短缺接近200萬間。>>> GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT! Housing shortage myth!
This is what I call DECEPTION!
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i'm calling a reporter to write something you like to read and see. ok
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post Mar 9 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Mar 9 2012, 06:24 PM)
I love to read these stuff, it's very entertaining indeed!

Please ask your buddy reporter to write more and publish in main stream media, so we can have more laugh here  thumbup.gif


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I have no idea about the price movement in MK, this is what the article says anyway.
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but i afraid they write something like usd support by petro
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post Mar 13 2012, 11:44 PM

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ya keep more gold as you can, until world war 3 it gonna be very useful.
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post Mar 14 2012, 11:56 AM

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bubble won't happen la... don't dream too much.
you can't predict the bubble happen on next 10 years recession cycle 2017 which more likely to happen.
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post Mar 14 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Mar 14 2012, 01:49 PM)
Why banks are getting more and more strict in approving the housing loan? Is their Risk Assessment Manager sleeping or what?
My gut feeling told me, there is something going-on behind. Maybe I am wrong.
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tell you what! the more our Bank negara take action, the lesser the chances of bubble happen. i'm happy with the rules by Bank negara nowadays, although affected me to buy more, last time with 10% down i can buy 10 properties but now with 30% down i may only buy 3 properties, i willing to buy less rather than market burst.
property bubble is not that kind of you can predict, you can only know once it happen, and it happen so sudden.
If the Central Bank of Japan take action to tighten the loan approval during 80s rather than approved 2-3 generation loan, i think the story may different.
Same as USA 2007/8, the case in USA is different and complecated, it created by a group of people from politician, higher management from bank and etc....with the policy of AIG to insured the housing loan but the responsibility of loan approval are only from the Bank itself, it kind a strange policy, that's why the outsider always laugh at US; you kick your own butt, the more their share index drop, the more money that group of people made. go and check the story behind and i won't tell much here.
price is quite high for majority but i keen on saying "there have plenty of 100-200k subsale out there".

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Bangla negro also human


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QUOTE(katijar @ Mar 14 2012, 04:23 PM)
100-200k houses can make good frens with Bangla...  rclxms.gif
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if 100-200k for bangla and negro, the current price range 300-500k are reasonable for local right!! if can't afford the current price and wish to get 100-200k, what's different with bangla and negro biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Mar 14 2012, 05:15 PM)
Chinese/Malaysian/Singaporean governments DO NOT restrict anyone to buy more than one property, you only need to fork out 30-60% or more down payments in order to get a second/third mortgages.

If they are so cash rich why bother to get mortgages, buy it outright and prop up the prices or use credit cards to pay down payments to verify the high risk high return theory.
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the high risk high return theory very useful you know..... biggrin.gif
i think better than buy gold, bcos we can't levarage.
but anyway! you're so conservative, you won't understand one. let's buy more gold for the world war 3.
your theory of USD support by petroleum is actually quite close to me, bcos i work with petroleum and earning USD. quite similar..
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 14 2012, 05:40 PM)
this is not a joke, quite real.

some banglas already earning close to 2k a month, maybe can buy 150k homes soon.

while local fresh grads earning 2k yell at najiz to provide 400k homes. tongue.gif
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najib limit up to 400k because our 2k earner don't want 150-200k houses. what to do!
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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Mar 14 2012, 05:48 PM)
The following legendary billionaires/investors/fund managers/forecasters/politicians buy gold:

MARC FABER, JIM ROGERS, PETER SCHIFF, ROBERT KIYOSAKI, DONALD TRUMP, GERALD CELENTE, RON PAUL, JIM RICKARDS, ERIC SPROTT so on and so forth

The names say it all... why you never read this on newspapers? Because the elite control the mainstream media, they want you to hold paper currency and continue to play their paper game, so they (bankers) can continue to steal your wealth through the hidden tax - inflation.

The most popular gold hater - WARREN BUFFETT. Why? Because he can't steal your wealth through inflation, it is that simple.

Why unbacked paper currency can only survive average 47 years? You should ask how much more currency depreciation people are willing to accept?

You parents worked hard in their life time and if they are honest savers, they become poorer everyday and will have a below average retirement.
Inflation does benefit property prices to a certain extent, but when oil/food/energy prices go up, average wages stay stagnant. Average workers get squeezed and will they have extra capacity to buy an investment property? They will if they use credit cards to pay down payment as some already done so  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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good statement my dear! you're teaching a fella who earning more than 600k Nett annual income, and you expect he know nothing about Gold or other investment, somemore compare the value of gold and property

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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Mar 14 2012, 05:59 PM)
Opps... am I teaching you?

BTW, my tax return last year touches 6 mil gross
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fuyoh! that's a lot of money! man.
luckly i don't say billion just now
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 14 2012, 07:07 PM)
Bro you post this article, later people say siok sendiri news
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QUOTE(darthvest @ Mar 16 2012, 09:28 AM)
Discount only 10k? A bit kiamsiap la this developer. If increase, it goes by 50k/100k, but could this be a sign of slow market ahead?
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that's why property investment is the best among the rest like share market, forex, gold etc...
with small capital and 5-10 times return easily
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guys! lets buy gold, the monetary system will be back to gold standard next year after 42 years from 1971. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
by the way, did Low yat forum have section for gold discussion?
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Later I'll go to share market section and tell them made 6mil, oh no should tell more, 60mil in property and most important tell them against what people doing like only invest in share market, must do something special like property.
I think they'll answer me "of course people discuss about share market at their own section"
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Mar 16 2012, 09:14 PM)
pls correct me if wrong. i recall vaguely azizi ali says he limits himself to 10% of total investments in gold.

debtismoney taikor, may i know what is your %?
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100%. hope for bubble burst and grab one for own stay
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QUOTE(katijar @ Mar 19 2012, 10:40 AM)
will ah jib kor/sou listen to him...
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I text him, he said the 1 Malaysia housing scheme is under process

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