Not an expert but i can say that if you're prepared to splurge over 20k for a watch, its better to look at brand new... No point saving a few bucks for the risk involved.
As for older models, bracelets are the rattly type oyster bracelet with hollow mid links and flip lock bracelet. Bezel inserts are anodized aluminium.
New models features newer case design, sits firmir on the wrists... Stout as some might say.
Bracelet are all solid and features a newer clasp. Bezel inserts are ceramic.

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Added on February 15, 2012, 4:29 pmFor a gmtii service costs, depending on what needs to be changed or replaced, you're looking at the region of rm1800 and up....

This post has been edited by hanz079: Feb 15 2012, 04:29 PM

Wow... Milgauss and 2 Subs? Cool... show pic leh... we all drooling liao.
Dun put 30mins then take it off lah... everyone here is watch lovers, pics is paramount.

All pics of watches are welcome.
If can, post whole collection la... let us drool mah...

Updated my Snowflake on original tudor bracelet.


Yeaaahhh!!!

Let's not forget Chopard Mille Miglia, Casio Edifice Sebastian Vettel, Seiko Honda F1 Racing collaboration and Frederique Constant Racing collection.
Those are those that I can come up with atm.

As to the resell value of Tags, they are on the weaker side.
For mechanicals, the older models carry generic eta movements except for the caliber 36 which is a variant of the zenith el primero carry their value well, but don't take it as a yardstick.
Newer models that uses the infamous caliber 1887 is a reworked version of the seiko 6s37 should still hold their value.
As for quartz, lets not even go there.

But let's be real here... most casual watch buyers are not going to delve deep into the history or movements of the watches.
As long as they like the design, then it's good enough a reason to buy.

Bottom line is, buy whatever that you like.
No use buying a piece with good resale value but with a design that you despise.
Zenith watches does not hold value well, yet I am a big fan of their watches... more so the new collection... feel like pokemon... "gotta catch them all!!"

Tag is a luxury brand.
That is a fact.
As for the products that they are offering, I do not feel they are value for money.
More like 20% is what the watch is worth and another 80% that you pay for is for the marketing costs.
I am not sure if anyone said TH is crap because it will not be right.
Everyone have their own tastes in timepieces.
A person wearing a patek does not necessarily be any different from someone wearing a casio or seiko.
All 3 could be equally rich, just not the same priority when in comes to watches.

If I were given a choice between a Tissot and a Tag, I would go for the Tissot.
But that is just me.
Check out the Seastar or T-Race automatic line.
Pretty nice watches.

Do not be jealous with the Patek the guy beside you is wearing, be happy with the watch that you're wearing now.

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Added on February 25, 2012, 5:37 pmIf I have 3-4k to spend on a watch... for everyday wear... I would definitely go for this.



I am a big fan of their watches and I sold off my old DC67 and now waiting to pull the trigger on this, just that I have more targets than money... lol

This post has been edited by hanz079: Feb 25 2012, 05:37 PM

Pics or it didn't happen bro... lol

Maybe you can find one that says Tough Solar on the dial.
Those run on rechargeable solar power... suppose to last 3 years without seeing sunlight, with sunlight... forever I guess?

Try on both, then buy whichever puts a smile on your face.

Someone over at malaysiawatchforum.com is selling the tag you want.
rm4180 negotiable... I have no idea if it's a good price.
Maybe you can tekan more.
Cash is king.
My guess is he will take 3500 for it... or maybe 3800... hehehe... good luck!!

The rich get richer.... that has been the way of the world since like forever...

Those dials are what made them unique and beautiful.

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Added on March 9, 2012, 11:47 amThat watch was on my lookout list.
But the fact jlc made them limited means the price is kinda high.
Around 40k if i am not mistaken.

This post has been edited by hanz079: Mar 9 2012, 11:47 AM

If you can find them, you can buy them... there are surely some left at ADs if you look hard enough.

At that budget?
Zenith Captain Winsor for me without a doubt.



You will still have half your budget left.
Annual Calender + El Primero

Aren't we all bias here?
I would the Sub down as a beater, dive watch and vintage as well if it's a T-dial.
How can there be no El Primero? Blasphemy!!!

From the pics, the lugs still look pronounced and sharp.
Watch is on solid end links.
Production year should be after 2002-2003... anything after A Serial, non T-Dial.
Let's just hope your uncle don't screw up your mom... it's just a watch anyway.
Wear it in good health.
If it's 13k for full set, I believe it's a good buy...

Any reason for getting a A series specifically? I would love to know.
Is it due to the "swiss" on the dial instead of "swiss made"

You can get the same one at WUS sales forum for rm600
search for seller tcolucci

No I haven't, but my opinion is if you're getting a watch with that design... Steinhart offers them too and pricing isn't all bad.
I wouldn't buy from the link you provided though... it's just me...

From your pics, 100% fake.