I never meant the above in red.
what I mean is simple go on google and search "Sinn Guinand Bell and Ross" and see what pops up!
next have you heard of Sinn or Bell and Ross else the above it is moo point.

U looking for such strap? it will be hard to find in your budget, u have to get a watch and locate a 3rd party that fits. Note some company make life difficult for you, if the lug size is odd U will have a hard time finding 3rd part band, will have to custom make and that is not cheap.



Longines HydroConquest Automatic Chronograph is a great watch but it retails at ~6K! 2X your working budget.

Oris is swiss, using ETA or sellita movements. Cases/brancelets are China made.

chrono, diver, pilot difference hmm.

chrono is a complications. For more complications read below.
http://www.moraysjewelers.com/timepiece-complications.htm

Diver, Pilot are watches design for a specific use.
Divers usually have 200m water resistance and a bezel that only turns anticlockwise to keep track of dive times.
Pilot watches since they are not going anywhere near water they are generally 30-100m water resistance.

what do you by the above in bold?

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Added on September 1, 2012, 8:28 pmI would get a Omega quartz. over priced items.

alittle more can get a chrono Omega already.
http://www.collectorstime.com/products/ome...nograph-date-mb


from 3 to 7K that is alot if so pop it to 10K and can get a Zenith EP or a 2nd Rolex.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 1 2012, 08:35 PM

2-10K range is super wide.
he was looking at 2-3k range chrono.
with that only these choices if he only wants to get in a brick and mortar store

Tissot, Seiko, maybe Victorinox.

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Added on September 1, 2012, 8:44 pmleather quality of oris isn't good. I own a oris.

Omega quartz? no this line

Omega seamaster is Steel. its seamaster - diver watch.
only 1 company make diver watch with leather.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 1 2012, 08:44 PM

check lug size, different design different size.

their steel case is alright, finishing may not be great but after a few knocks on even the most expensive PP also same same. LOL

get a homage to it!

Omega Seamaster ~10K
http://www.authenticwatches.com/300mautomatic.html


CW C60, your budget can get the GMT version with ~RM2.8k
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/men/dive/...0-gmt-skko.html


non GMT version only ~rm1800
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/men/dive/...0-tri-skck.html


This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 1 2012, 10:24 PM

U can change strap to anything on any brands as long as U can find a fit!

GMT is 2nd timezone, it runs on ETA 2893-2 whereas no GMT runs on ETA 2824 or its clone.
2893 only comes in Elabore grade, 2824 I believe CW only carry standard grade


This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 1 2012, 11:18 PM

i like epos more than those brands. Epos are usually mechanical and well decorated

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Added on September 2, 2012, 7:26 amnot deep stuff if u take a closer look. basically 2892/2894 family movement are found in more expensive brands.

This is rubber not leather, not seen leather type.
http://www.breitlingsource.com/strap_oceanracer.shtml


leather ppl use deployants
http://www.fredawatchstraps.com/axeljost.html

rubber then have that type U looking for
http://www.thewatchprince.com/Italian-Rubb...read-20mm-Black

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 2 2012, 07:35 AM

I agree with Catnip.
~1K would be my guess.

want brand need to pay up

more jewel typically means better movement, not ways. note due to that ETA 251 also cost more about double the price.

Certina DS First Chronograph not marketed well, price is not much higher that aud$470.
for about ~aud$680 can get a uhr.info with ETA 7750.

read about G10
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f6/problem-et...1-a-499765.html

lucky G10 is cheap at ~usd$60, faulty just replace
http://www.esslinger.com/etawatchmovements.aspx

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 2 2012, 08:26 PM

U cannot alter the function. you can change a movement to allow that, or simply get a different watch.

Oris don't make any quartz watch, but their mechanical watches does uses the most reliable entry level work horse.
Tissot on the other hand, is part of swatch group has access to cheaper mechanical movement, not as reliable but prices it can't be beat.
iirc I recall reading somewhere that Swatch sells its movement at 4X the price to brands outside the group.

you budget only can touch those on ETA 2824/2836 or SW 200/220. see which model u like then ask if can change or not. as for how many jewels depends either 21 or 26.
http://www.authenticwatches.com/oris.html

U should read this Oris forum
http://www.friendsoforis.com/forum/index.p...elita-movement/

U should really google on the above in red.

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Added on September 3, 2012, 7:05 pmnone, unless u willing to pay more.
the cheapest Tag is their F1, prices are ~3k and up. furthermore they are all quartz. F1 is like their fashion watch. every 2-3yr change design.
http://www.authenticwatches.com/f1mensquartz.html

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Added on September 3, 2012, 7:13 pmwhich pontos model? pontos is a collection.
more than 30% unlikely ML discount is controlled.
U can turn to grey
ie
http://www.collectorstime.com/collectors/b...maurice-lacroix

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 3 2012, 07:13 PM

U can try mido too
http://www.bodying.com/mido.html

do read page 1 post 1, I am sure there is link that ans this qns.
remember automatic/self-winding only works if U hands move. some movement uni-directional some bi-directional.
sit in office on a keyboard is not going to wind it too much, U may need to hand wind it

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 3 2012, 07:41 PM

btw 4-5 imho

u should look at hamilton too.
oris today uses at lot of SW movements those in swatch group (HAMILTON, MIDO) naturally use ETA.

go grey with hamilton can easily get a 7750 movement.
http://www.ashford.com/watches/hamilton/ca...Men&q_question=

ie
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f357/confusio...etc-643385.html


This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 3 2012, 07:58 PM

which watch u referring to?

Everdying, ans the qns already

well, look at the context here.. the table is a few yrs back plus it talks about starting prices of their entry level watches.
omega and zenith both have tourbillion. Zenith price has come down to capture markets. omegas although prices has gone up for their flagship collection entry level prices hasn't really change too much from other brands.

so when u say oris has 20k watch kinda irrelevant here to begin with.

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Added on September 6, 2012, 9:59 amits retail its ~usd$2.5K, some retails have been see to let it go at 40% off or usd$1500 or RM4.7K
http://www.chrono24.com/en/mauricelacroix/...--id1531439.htm
http://www.chrono24.com/en/mauricelacroix/...--id2060062.htm

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Added on September 6, 2012, 10:03 amOris Artix Oscar Peterson Limited Edition 68376444084LS is close to that price.
http://www.authenticwatches.com/oris-artix...ml#.UEgEOrJlRjM


This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 6 2012, 10:03 AM

not bought from them b4. check reviews on WUS
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/authentic...ost3983528.html

duration - dependings on shipping method.

no tax by Msia gov.

legit company will insure it, stolen or lost you are covered. why save $$ getting it shipped uninsured? LOL

best deal if U can get it from LVMH sale!

usually there is a sale in Fall and spring sales in States and prices are at 50% off; they still come with factory warranty
http://slickdeals.net/f/4708164-Tag-Heuer-...y-Sale-6-7-6-18

I have bought on Ashford b4 and they are legit still can bargain. see what local AD can get U and fight for addition 10-20% on grey dealers.
http://www.ashford.com/watches/tag-heuer/c...2cagpspn=pla%22

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 8 2012, 10:16 AM

if its only marginal say ~300++ makes no sense to go grey in the 1st place.
when I shop grey my typical savings is 3K and up.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 8 2012, 07:09 PM

Elite movement has been around since ~1990, I own a elite movement.
the pwr res (in steel) maybe ~20K b4 discount, new management maybe ~25%?
moonphase (in steel0 maybe ~22K b4 discount

some comment on Elite movement
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/how-does-...nts-482477.html

http://www.worldtempus.com/en/news/top-new...-power-reserve/

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Added on September 9, 2012, 10:26 amfyi ball is working on their inhouse movement.

at ~5k budget can look into the below series, nothing chrono for sure
Fireman series
Engineer I
maybe Engineer Master

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Added on September 9, 2012, 10:30 am@ littleBeettle
That Ball Engineer Master II is priced at ~12K, far from his 5K budget... unless its 5K in USD or GBP or EUR or AUD or CAD?

@ starwalk2002
U looking at ~RM5k?? or some other currency?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 9 2012, 10:30 AM

this watch? yes its reasonable

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Added on September 9, 2012, 7:48 pmAnonimo? good, the company is form by a bunch of Panerai watch makers b4 Pam move their operations out of florence.

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Added on September 9, 2012, 8:20 pmElite is a well made movement, quality/durability/accuracy are about as as good as Big 'R'

for half the cost can get nomos Tangente Datum Gangreserve, I feel nomos decorate their movement better than Zenith.
http://www.nomos-store.com

or these
- Jaeger LeCoultre Master Reserve De Marche
- Girard-Perregaux Vintage 1945 King Size One
- Dornblueth & Sohn Calibre 99.2
- Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Double Retrograde
- Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Phase de Lune
- Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Lune Retrograde (both pwr res and moonphase)



This post has been edited by patryn33: Sep 9 2012, 08:23 PM