No , I did not . Why should I take it in order to know if Chinese STPM is harder than FM T in STPM ? Statistics does that for me . Then again , do you need to take STPM in order to know if its harder than SPM ?

It is now clear to me that you do not know anything about SPM Chinese . So I really think you should not argue about this matter .

What I was referring to is not the mark to score an A for Chinese . It is about the difficulty of that particular subject .
But since you know nothing about Chinese in SPM , there's nothing I can do .
You just don't get my point . Did I say anything about Chinese in university ?
Chinese language in universities are the basic ones , how to read and write simple words / sentences . You can't compare that to Chinese in SPM . Again , reread my point about interpreting classical texts .

I am baffled by the fact that you can suddenly divert your argument towards the Wright Brothers .
Consider this : The Wright Brothers were completely passionate about engineering . If they did not have the passion , do you think we'll have aeroplanes ? This brings up the point about your *interest* .

Think again .

*p/s : Without planes , we don't need to swim over the ocean , we have ships .

This post has been edited by maximR: Nov 17 2011, 08:25 PM

You get brainwashed already........Chinese is not difficult, it is a very interesting subject indeed......Wright brothers did that because of interest, so, as a Chinese, you are not interested in your mother tongue??????? You are not interested in your China history and your literature?????

Stop your propagation about Chinese is tough.......You dont take Chinese is your own problem, dont ruin other's mind who still have to take Chinese..........

PS: For those taking Chinese for next year SPM, ask yourself what is your problem with Chinese, what is there so difficult. Finally what can you do to overcome all these problems.........Dont sitting there talking about Chinese is tough but nothing can be done just like someone here.......Dont whine only........it contributes nothing to your problem.....

This post has been edited by Makira: Nov 17 2011, 08:53 PM

haha u two r cute! btw maximR, u r a CHinese rite? have u ever studied in chinese schools?
i'm taking my SPM dis year, taking Chinese too.. bout the interpreting of the classical texts, actually it's quite beneficial!
through dat we can learn those folk tales n most importantly the real beauty of Chinese words..imagine those days ppl can understand others by only a few words n nowadays ppl need 2 write a whole long paragraph juz to express the same thing!
it may not be useful in daily life, but learning to enjoy and appreciate the beauty of it makes it totally worth it!
U noe, it's true dat the ques r tough, but the main cause of y so little ppl get A+ is bcoz the adjusting of the marks..
it's not really the ques fault, or the marker fault..
if we really noe it's their tactics to force us to give up Chinese, y follow their wish??

The problem is students do not comprehend the literature part, lack of exposure, I hope some publishers can come out with reading materials that comprise Chinese literature.........

there r sufficient reference books for dat... more den enough for me to finish all b4 SPM! >.<

Everyday complete a passage by understanding all the meaning and answer provided did help a lot....

erm..if anyone could be dat hardworking, sure can get A+ d..

This is called effort....Something simple we done it consistently may become a huge success......

It's great that you have passion for Chinese and interpreting classical texts . Its rare to find someone like you appreciating the beauty of Chinese language . But most of the people I know who take Chinese despise it .

I didn't have passion at all in studying Chinese since kindergarten . I gave up on that . All I can do now is speak the language and read some simple words / sentences .

But I really love works by Confucius and Lao Tze . Analects and Tao Te Ching .

TS wants all A+ to secure a scholarship ... That is why I suggested that he drop it , but since its compulsory and he can do nothing about it , he decides to choose another subject .

^extremist detected.
I read through the whole post, have no idea how it relates to "gov force us to give up Chinese".
=> I have Tw, and Hk friends. guess what, they dont even know what the hell is the classical chinese context about,
some even failed chinese. Does that have anything to do with being "chinese" ? lol

As far as I am aware, Malaysian education is politicised, but that has nothing to do this topic.
try your best to sway back on topic pls.

lol.

haha i noe it's ad out of topic..but i juz cant accept the fact dat chinese is giving up chinese!!
classical texts only take up a small part in the paper, n u people always elaborate on dat part to make it sounds so diff..
give up juz bcoz it's tough? dat's not a nice attitude for life..
and erm..frankly speaking, not only tw n hk ppl, lots ppl nowadays ad gave up on their traditions...for globalisation..
we strongly encourage ppl to hold on to the subject..bcocz it may/most likely be our last chance to learn our mother tongue in school n in life..

Very true...After leaving my SPM, I hardly write in Chinese, read in Chinese is more often......

Your school kinda sucks, bro. Tell me the name of the school and I'll give you a cookie.

Hi sotong1992.



And by the way, to all of you here, do not "shove" your opinion into others' throat. It is okay to express it but please be respectful. Take your stand and leave it there, there is no need to repetitively argue about differing remarks.

Oh , sotong1992 , that explains everything . I was wondering , he reminds me of someone I know from EduEd , the way he expresses his opinions . Thank you happy berry !

Agreed . Next time I will contain my anger and not let it out thru our clean EduEd .

Yes I understand. That is the reason why our school set up this policy, that is, every students must take Chinese
in PMR/SPM. Anyway, I won't give up on Chinese, I just want to take an extra subject so I can secure another A+
(if I can). I still will try my very best on Chinese.

Thanks all.

I still want to clarify both you and maximR.

Chinese actually ISN'T tough. You have a point here Makira. But why hardly students score an A+ in
this subject is because the marks to score an A+ is extremely high. And there's a reason why has it been
raised until such difficulty. I do not want to say it here. It has something to do with the government.
And someone has said it here, it's true. It is really true.