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 Gold investment corner v4, Will gold price achieve USD2000 by 2012?

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monara
post Jan 4 2012, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 3 2012, 02:21 PM)
You need to open a UOB gold account first.
Min initial deposit is 20 grams. Subsequent transaction in multiple of 5 grams.
You will need to maintain min balance of 10 grams in your account.
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hi guys.. noob question here...
do they gave us something like account book, for past transaction record (pretty much like saving account book)?
and is the transaction (buy/sell) can be done anyday during office hour (again, like money account), or any condition (like max transaction per month, etc..)?
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post Jan 4 2012, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(monara @ Jan 4 2012, 12:32 AM)
hi guys.. noob question here...
do they gave us something like account book, for past transaction record (pretty much like saving account book)?
and is the transaction (buy/sell) can be done anyday during office hour (again, like money account), or any condition (like max transaction per month, etc..)?
TQ.
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Uob let you choose with or without bank book for saving account.

When you purchase gold from them, they will giv you some kind like "fixed deposit" type paper show that how many gm and wat price you buy. Tat y we called paper gold.

No limit for per days transection, follow by bank operation hours. But better do any transection before 4pm.

For me, cont for paper gold is we cant called the branch and lock the gold price. sad.gif not lik last time i buying gold bar can lock the gold price i like. Feeling like have to sit at branch and monitor their gold price. Lol

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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jan 4 2012, 02:27 AM)
Uob let you choose with or without bank book for saving account.

When you purchase gold from them, they will giv you some kind like "fixed deposit" type paper show that how many gm and wat price you buy. Tat y we called paper gold.

No limit for per days transection, follow by bank operation hours. But better do any transection before 4pm.

For me, cont for paper gold is we cant called the branch and lock the gold price. sad.gif not lik last time i buying gold bar can lock the gold price i like. Feeling like have to sit at branch and monitor their gold price. Lol
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At PBB, you could do your gold transactions online. Just need to sit in front of your PC and click the mouse. tongue.gif
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post Jan 4 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(nasze_89 @ Jan 3 2012, 09:17 AM)
"We have the beginnings of a real bear market, and the death of a bull," said veteran trader Dennis Gartman, a long-time gold bull who completely exited his bullion investments last week.
Since September, gold has underperformed commodities measured by the RJ/CRB index and the euro, while U.S. equities measured by the S&P 500 eked out a slight gain.

Drop below $1500 per oz, (RM 169 per gram if $1=RM 3.2)
This is just a forecast, so my advice, buy when the trend increase, around RM 150-160 per gram if u are risk averse people.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/45828049

Gartman as Gold Tops $1,600: ‘I Missed the Lows’



Gold bulls are feeling more comfortable as the precious metal rose more than 2½ percent on positive economic data, but is it time to get in the trade?

“I got unlucky in not turning bullish properly,” noted investor Dennis Gartman said Tuesday. “It’s still a long-term bull market, and I’ll get bullish again. It looks like I missed the lows. Those things happen.”

The Gartman Letter publisher made headlines when he announced he had sold off the gold in his personal account.


Added on January 4, 2012, 1:14 pmGrandich Raises Gold Challenge to $2 Million.

By Mark Gongloff

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Two MILLION dollars!Newsletter writer/bomb thrower Peter Grandich is at it again.

A few weeks ago he launched a broadside rant against three of his fellow newsletter writers, including Dennis Gartman, who have recently dared to suggest that gold might possibly not be a great buy right now! After labeling them the Three Stooges, he challenged them to a $1 million bet that gold will hit $2000 an ounce before it hits $1200 an ounce.

The response from the Stooges ranged from calling Grandich a nut job (Jon Nadler of Kitco) to wishing him a Merry Christmas (the chivalrous Gartman).

Having not thoroughly spooked all the horses with that first bet, Grandich has today raised the ante, directing all of his ire at Nadler and challenging him to another bet, now $2 million, that gold will hit $2100 before it hits $1000:

I hereby challenge Mr. Nadler again, this time raising my wager to $2 million — still not anyone’s “life savings.” I’ll increase the bet’s target price by $100: that gold will see $2,100 before $1,000. The winnings are to be donated to charity.

It’s a shame that someone can continue to be so wrong without being questioned. When Mr. Nadler resorts to misrepresenting me, it’s time for him to put up or shut up.

If Mr. Nadler’s forecasts have been so profitable to him and his readers, why wouldn’t he accept this challenge?

I have arranged for the law firm of Lomurro, Davison, Eastman & Munoz of Freehold, New Jersey, to hold the wagered funds in trust. My offer to Nadler is good until 12:01 a.m. ET January 9, 2012. And since my side of the wager is derived from my personal funds, Mr. Nadler’s $2 million match to my wager shall also be certified as deriving from his personal funds or funds derived from the assets of his immediate family.

MarketBeat doesn’t want any part of this debacle, but will agree with Grandich that $2 million is “not anyone’s ‘life savings.’” MarketBeat’s “life savings” are more like $200.

Gold was recently up 1.65% at $1566.40. Your move, Nadler!

Update: Nadler responds in the comments section:

For the record, what I said about the man was: “Peter Grandich is not worthy of my time, or of my attention. He is a desperate man, desperately seeking attention,” said Nadler, in response to an email requesting comment on Grandich’s blog.” That is not a “nut job” quote. … Finally, also for the record, I do not advise my readers and I do not predict anything, unlike Grandich. I do find it sad as well as humorous how he keeps moving his betting targets now that his first number is about to fall. Totally disingenous. That is why no one is paying attention.

PS: Here is one bet you can count on: Effective today, the name of Peter Grandich will not be mentioned by me directly or indirectly in any way. He no longer exits as far as I am concerned and no time of mine shall be wasted on anything that has to do with him and his antics.

Update 2: Grandich writes:

In typical “Tokyo Rose” fashion, Nadler not only totally fails to answer truthfully about his actual track record, but he again outright lies by using a $1,500 number that never existed in any and all claims except in his warped and devious mind. The sad part is the author of the column doesn’t seem to grasp that nor the ample evidence of exactly how wrong Nadler has been for years. And may I add as a standardbred horse owner that if nadler was indeed a horse, it would be much easier to accept what he dumps and leaves in his path of twisted truths, lies and deception. P.S. Also as a horse owner I can say based on his heartless track record, he couldn’t find a suitable race even at a state fair. P.S.S. And to Mr. Gongloff, thank you for proving my point about most in the media.The great Jim O’Connell must be wiping yet another tear from his eye in Heaven.

Update 3: Grandich further adds:

Jon Nadler wrote :

“PS Here is one bet you can count on: Effective today, the name of Peter Grandich will not me mentioned by me directly or indirectly in any way. He no longer exits as far as I am concerned and no time of mine shall be wasted on anything that has to do with him and his antics.”

This is basically the line Nadler used when he said gold topped out at $800 and was not in a bull market when ROB-TV offered to host a debate between us only to have Nadler hide in the safety of his useless column and twist facts and comments of mine and others who did something he never managed to do since gold was $300 – gets its long term direction correct.

If it was just a matter of being wrong there would be no challenge because I’ve been wrong many times only I don’t try to change history and make like it never happened. Sadly, this journalist is like many who couldn’t begin to be truly fair and balance. Thankfully, my Savior more than makes up for it and that shall be my comfort for the lies and deception that nadler continues to dwell in (and this columnist indirectly helps support with his first grade wit and charm). End of discussion with this column but I shall never waiver to speak up when such decitful people like nadler make a mockery of truth.



This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jan 4 2012, 01:14 PM
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post Jan 4 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jan 4 2012, 01:27 AM)
Uob let you choose with or without bank book for saving account.

When you purchase gold from them, they will giv you some kind like "fixed deposit" type paper show that how many gm and wat price you buy. Tat y we called paper gold.

No limit for per days transection, follow by bank operation hours. But better do any transection before 4pm.

For me, cont for paper gold is we cant called the branch and lock the gold price. sad.gif not lik last time i buying gold bar can lock the gold price i like. Feeling like have to sit at branch and monitor their gold price. Lol
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This is fun and cosy... buypaper gold from home. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 4 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Jan 3 2012, 01:40 AM)
sorry... mostly i buy real gold, but recently feel not safety already..

izzit i can trust on the paper gold?(bank) and

will this any charges on buying and selling?? and can it done by days transaction?? means today i buy in the morning, and sell at the afternoon?
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Buying gold is not 'skim cepat kaya' lor.... think long term... then no headache... cool2.gif
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post Jan 4 2012, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(zest168 @ Dec 30 2011, 01:33 PM)
Hi everyone, just need some advice, apart from investing in Gold or property, what else is good investment for long term? I dun believe in stocks anyway.

Thanks.
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Take a look at silver. There is a forum in LYN discussing about silver here Silver as investment v2
There are lots of pretty good discussion not only on silver, but on overall precious metal scenario. The recent discussions were especially good.


Added on January 4, 2012, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(Jutawan @ Jan 4 2012, 01:31 PM)
Buying gold is not 'skim cepat kaya' lor.... think long term... then no headache... cool2.gif
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Yup. Disregard the short term fluctuation. Just continue to convert fiat money into gold when you have spare cash. The thing is, many people buying gold using the same psychology of trading in share market.

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post Jan 4 2012, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 4 2012, 09:15 AM)
At PBB, you could do your gold transactions online. Just need to sit in front of your PC and click the mouse.  tongue.gif
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u mean public bank? they also have online service website like MB, cimb?
erm, may i know do we need to have money account with them in the 1st place, for using the online transaction?
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AFAIK, gold price has been up to a new peak for awhile now. And I'm kinda interested to invest it paper gold. am playing share, but would like to try something new.

A few questions I have after reading through the posts.

1. Do I need to open a seperate gold account? Plan to use CIMB bank or maybank.
2. I don't need a CDS account right? I just need to open a new 'gold account' and put money in it? is there a minimum of how much i must buy for MAYBANK and CIMB?
3. Is it advisable to invest in gold now?
4. Is it like buying share? I tell the bank I want to buy at what price, and then what if I want sell? Since there is no broker I assume for 'gold account'.
5. IS IT LIKE SHARE? WHERE WE BUY AT THE PRICE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SELL?
6. there is no dividend in buying 'paper gold' right? just only capital appreciation?
7. is it better to invest in gold or silver?


any extra advice?

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post Jan 5 2012, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(monara @ Jan 4 2012, 11:46 PM)
u mean public bank? they also have online service website like MB, cimb?
erm, may i know do we need to have money account with them in the 1st place, for using the online transaction?
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Yup. Public Bank. They have online gold account. Of course you need to have money in your account before you can do your gold online transactions laugh.gif
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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jan 5 2012, 12:42 AM)
AFAIK, gold price has been up to a new peak for awhile now. And I'm kinda interested to invest it paper gold. am playing share, but would like to try something new.

A few questions I have after reading through the posts.

1. Do I need to open a seperate gold account? Plan to use CIMB bank or maybank.
2. I don't need a CDS account right? I just need to open a new 'gold account' and put money in it? is there a minimum of how much i must buy for MAYBANK and CIMB?
3. Is it advisable to invest in gold now?
4. Is it like buying share? I tell the bank I want to buy at what price, and then what if I want sell? Since there is no broker I assume for 'gold account'.
5. IS IT LIKE SHARE? WHERE WE BUY AT THE PRICE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SELL?
6. there is no dividend in buying 'paper gold' right? just only capital appreciation?
7. is it better to invest in gold or silver?
any extra advice?
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A SIMPLE ANSWERS to ALL YOUR QUESTION..


1. Yes separate acc
2 ~ 6. The BUY & SELL as same as FOREIGN EXCHANGE MONEY you BUY&SELL at BANK. No need CDS acc, No need brokerage fee, no DIVIDEND like shares.
7. I will choose GOLD. Current investment is with UOB (low spread), and previously with Maybank & Kijang Emas



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QUOTE(mbj78 @ Jan 5 2012, 08:53 AM)
A SIMPLE ANSWERS to ALL YOUR QUESTION..
1. Yes separate acc
2 ~ 6. The BUY & SELL as same as FOREIGN EXCHANGE MONEY you BUY&SELL at BANK. No need CDS acc, No need brokerage fee, no DIVIDEND like shares.
7. I will choose GOLD. Current investment is with UOB (low spread), and previously with Maybank & Kijang Emas
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What's the price per gram now? Is it worth the investment now?

So let's say I buy at RM180. And it rise to RM200. Everyone can sell at RM200? Or we must wait for buyer to buy our paper gold? Or it's just me and bank?
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post Jan 5 2012, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jan 5 2012, 09:05 AM)
What's the price per gram now? Is it worth the investment now?

So let's say I buy at RM180. And it rise to RM200. Everyone can sell at RM200? Or we must wait for buyer to buy our paper gold? Or it's just me and bank?
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just you and bank...
suggest u do some research and reading on the fundamental instead of asking every single question ... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jan 5 2012, 09:05 AM)
What's the price per gram now? Is it worth the investment now?

So let's say I buy at RM180. And it rise to RM200. Everyone can sell at RM200? Or we must wait for buyer to buy our paper gold? Or it's just me and bank?
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just you and bank... the deal is instant.... either bank act as a "market" for all of us... or else they will throw the responsibility back to the market, by "throwing" your orders to their market...

and thats why they charge such high spread... in the end... the banks win.... always..
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post Jan 5 2012, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jan 5 2012, 10:05 AM)
What's the price per gram now? Is it worth the investment now?

So let's say I buy at RM180. And it rise to RM200. Everyone can sell at RM200? Or we must wait for buyer to buy our paper gold? Or it's just me and bank?
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Maybank - here

UOB - here

Public Bank - here

Buy & sell is just between you & bank. tongue.gif
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post Jan 5 2012, 10:21 AM

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I actually ask the questions then go do the research. Sorry, guys.

Still, base on all of your experience in the gold investment, what do you think would be the best time to buy gold? RM15x region? or what?
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its going up!
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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jan 5 2012, 10:21 AM)
I actually ask the questions then go do the research. Sorry, guys.

Still, base on all of your experience in the gold investment, what do you think would be the best time to buy gold? RM15x region? or what?
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Best time to buy is buy as around this moment.
when it drop then buy again,
when it drop then buy again..
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what's your objective in buying gold?

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