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 myvi auto shaking and choking during idling, sifus please help

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vr2turbo
post Nov 16 2011, 05:57 PM

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Because like you say, they already change almost everything......
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post Nov 16 2011, 05:58 PM

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if it really was wiring issue, the OBD-II scanner in the service center would have picked it up. (duh)

another cheap solution might be grounding.. just fyi..myvi has very poor grounding, even brand new myvi, after installing quality voltage stabilizer and grounding kit can see consistent gains on dyno.
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post Nov 16 2011, 06:00 PM

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Problem is only at certain times, the problem surface. When hook up and running fine, cannot detect.....
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post Nov 16 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 16 2011, 06:00 PM)
Problem is only at certain times, the problem surface. When hook up and running fine, cannot detect.....
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i thought TS left the car with perodua few days? hehehe.
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post Nov 16 2011, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 16 2011, 06:07 PM)
i thought TS left the car with perodua few days? hehehe.
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ya, i left it with perodua from thursday till now..after several days, they called me and told me that the expect 2 issues on the car which are the ECU and the wiring harness.but then i dont understand why is the wiring harness of the engine is capable of making my car shaking like its going to die..fo example..its like you're gasping for air and its like you're going to die..that is the exact situation i'm having when my car shake and choked for air during idling.

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post Nov 17 2011, 07:53 AM

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If SC with all equipment cannot detect the problem, then finish loh..... cry.gif
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post Nov 17 2011, 09:19 AM

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post Nov 17 2011, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(felicia666 @ Nov 17 2011, 09:19 AM)
This problem is very elusive. Will not appear when you want it. I left my car with sc for several days also cannot detect the problem. On my car, after replacing some parts it disappeared for several months and then re-occurred again.

The jerking you're experiencing I think is due to engine mis-combustion. I suggest just change the ignition coil assy as I understand cars 100k onwards may have degraded ignition coil assy and cause jerking at traffic lights stop. Interestingly enough, I serviced my car every 10k at sc yet they failed to recommend replacing this part before breakdown happens.

Symptoms of bad spark plug coil assy:-
http://www.ehow.com/about_5076673_signs-ba...plug-wires.html
http://www.ehow.com/list_6426093_signs-bad...ition-coil.html

How to troubleshoot spark plug assy:-
http://www.ehow.com/how_5409517_troublesho...e-symptoms.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_7285852_check-plug...multimeter.html

About engine lights, I meant any of the red displays/warning/error code lights that appear briefly on your speedometer display. Take note of it.

Have you done any sound system modification on your car? This and the wiring might affect the electricals but I not sure it'll cause jerking.
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hoh,thanks for the links!..its very useful.

yup,already checked.no engine or warning display.

my car is completely stock except for my air filter, air intake and my spark plugs which is using denso iridium IK20 in which it is recommended my SC itself as this type f spark plugs will last longer and more efficient than regular spark plugs.

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post Nov 17 2011, 08:36 PM

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post Nov 17 2011, 11:20 PM

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hey guys,just got the car back..the SC changed the harness wiring and they changed the spark plugs for free..its the same spark plugs that i'm using which is denso irridium..dunno why they gave me free of charge..
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QUOTE(botack @ Nov 17 2011, 11:20 PM)
hey guys,just got the car back..the SC changed the harness wiring and they changed the spark plugs for free..its the same spark plugs that i'm using which is denso irridium..dunno why they gave me free of charge..
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Wire harness also, probably scare you complain to media, wire harness also need to change then spoil reputation........ha! ha! biggrin.gif
Anyway, check and see if the problem still arises. If not, then congratulation, your problem solved..... rclxms.gif

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post Nov 18 2011, 09:21 AM

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seriously? change wire harness is such a big issue is it? does the harness wire was build to last a lifetime? ya,will be doing a complete check and see if the problem arises after a few month.

anyway, i've already checked with the SC, the ignition coil assy does not need to changed as it is build to last until 250k km.. and the ignition coil assy is still ok based on his story..
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post Nov 18 2011, 09:55 AM

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Wire harness of the car is like the blood arteries and veins in human. Connects the ECU to every part of the car, that is engine compartment, under the dash , under the carpet too for connection to the rear for control of the lights behind.
There are many many tiny wires inside all wrap up, so if there is a fault, they cannot pinpoint where, then the whole harness have to be changed.
Read more here:-

http://www.sws.co.jp/en/product/wireharness/car.html
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post Nov 18 2011, 12:32 PM

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post Nov 18 2011, 01:55 PM

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Now, I wonder how come SC have expensive sparky also?
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QUOTE(felicia666 @ Nov 18 2011, 12:32 PM)
I'm certainly keen to know if the wiring is the real cause of it in the next few months.

Ignition coil assy can last a lifetime but people do change at half life when it starts to degrade.

How come sc concluded that the ECU and spark plugs is ok earlier on then later changed it? Makes no sense.

I thought you already changed the spark plug earlier? You changed it again? Did they return you the old spark plugs? Free expensive high performance spark plugs sounds fishy. I'd stick to original spark plugs if I were you.

Good luck dealing with the sc!
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ya, they say, aybe the on that they changed got some problem,so they changed to a newer ones at no cost..

earlier on, they could not detect the problem because simply the problem does not occur when the car was with them, the second time i handed the car to them, after a few days, then the problem occurs. then they start bombing me with phone calls telling that this might be ECU problem, spark plugs problem, throttle body problem, piston problem, wiring problem, transmission problem and so on..so many problem might just change to a newer car liao..

they changed it for free..so i get my old old spark plugs back which has only run for 40k now..still left another 60k on the spark plugs life, the second spark plugs in chich they say was faulty and it only runs for 5km oni..haha..they gave me for free lo..what to do..sad.gif


QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 18 2011, 01:55 PM)
Now, I wonder how come SC have expensive sparky also?
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back then, they have this promotion on the denso iridium spark plugs..but i'm not the one who sends the myvi for service..so my dad changed from the regular spark plugs to the new iridium spark plugs which cost 180 back in 2010..now dunno how much liao coz already 2011..and they only stated FOC for the denso iridium spark plugs on the paper.



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post Nov 19 2011, 10:30 AM

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post Nov 19 2011, 11:51 AM

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2 times..now i'm using the 2nd spark plugs that they are giving me for free
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post Nov 19 2011, 02:49 PM

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Just hope the problem is solved....... nod.gif
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post Nov 19 2011, 03:40 PM

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hopefully itwill.anyway..thanks a lot guys..will close this thread now!..

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