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ianho
post Nov 21 2005, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Nov 21 2005, 12:04 AM)
Yeah, but it got me thinking as well.

300HTT x 3 = 900HTT is faster? or
250HTT x 4 = 1000HTT?

As we all know, the HTT should not exceed 1000 before stability is affected, so we can't run like 300 x 4 = 1200HTT; very much unlike what we expect from Intel platforms.

Anyone has any information on this, please share.
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Ya man. I din think of that. I was just thinking of the RAMs ability to run at 1:1 ratios n not having to use dividers. But I din think of the 300X3 or 250X4 thingy. This is when we need Ikanayam da man. Mr Fish? R u there?
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post Nov 21 2005, 12:51 AM

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HTB has nothing to do with memory lol, period. It's the interconnect between the Processor and the northbridge, but the fact is, it runs off the same PLL as the LDT bus so that's why it's clock scales with the HBT.
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post Nov 21 2005, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 20 2005, 11:55 PM)
OMG. 2X1Gb running at 300mhz! That's insane man. My daily use oso 250HTT oni.
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den 2X1GB usually run @ wat speed?
mine now 512X2 run on 380mhz @ bios with 2/1.33 ratio
but it shows 190mhz @ cpu-z
so which 1 is the correct 1>?
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post Nov 21 2005, 12:59 AM

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Plain English please...tongue.gif

QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 21 2005, 12:51 AM)
HTB has nothing to do with memory lol, period. It's the interconnect between the Processor and the northbridge, but the fact is, it runs off the same PLL as the LDT bus so that's why it's clock scales with the HBT.
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post Nov 21 2005, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Nov 21 2005, 12:51 AM)
HTB has nothing to do with memory lol, period. It's the interconnect between the Processor and the northbridge, but the fact is, it runs off the same PLL as the LDT bus so that's why it's clock scales with the HBT.
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I din understand a word u sed. Haha. Just make it simple for dumbos like me lar. Like jarofclay sed, is 300X3 or 250X4 better?



QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Nov 21 2005, 12:59 AM)
den 2X1GB usually run @ wat speed?
mine now 512X2 run on 380mhz @ bios with 2/1.33 ratio
but it shows 190mhz @ cpu-z
so which 1 is the correct 1>?
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif 190X2=380 lar. The 300mhz that the Ballistix can do is 300X2=600. that's an unearthly speed. Haha.
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QUOTE(ianho @ Nov 21 2005, 01:32 AM)
I din understand a word u sed. Haha. Just make it simple for dumbos like me lar. Like jarofclay sed,  is 300X3 or 250X4 better?
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif 190X2=380 lar.  The 300mhz that the Ballistix can do is 300X2=600. that's an unearthly speed. Haha.
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ok, quite simple

Not difference as long as the MHZ is the same, that's the rule of thumb for PCs, by hook or by crook as long as the numbers are the same, they will run at the same speed. Doesn't matter whether you bumped the multiplier or the frequency.

But do realize that there's a clock in the processor, called the PLL which times all the devices. when you overclock the LDT bus (Memory or the gate to Ocing) you effectively Overclock all the other busses tied into the PLL, that's why we get overclocked Hyper transport busses smile.gif

Hyper transport bus = nothing to do with the memory, higher overclocks are achieved with lower multipliers due to the fact the hyper transport bus influences the stability of the Processor, and nothing more.

So simple 300x3 vs 250x4 (Assume the processor multipliers are the same) obviously the 300 will be faster tongue.gif as the LDT follows the frequency (in this case 300 and 250)

Really, the hypertransport only concerns the transfer of data inbetween the Nortbridge (Nforce chip) and the processor. Since the A64's memory controller is internal, point is besides to stabilize the proc, why bother lol, it really doesn't have much of an effect on any performance XD
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post Dec 3 2005, 10:00 PM

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hello.just wanna ask is that 2GB of ram just able to run in DDR333 mode? I just upgrade to 2GB today and found that I am unable to run them in DDR400 as I was using 1GB last time.
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I have one Q about adding a new ram, can or not I want to connect high performance ram to my mobo with non hi performance ram? I now have a pair of apacer pc3200 400Mhz with capacity of 512MB and it combine as a 1GB. And now I want to make it to 2GB by connecting high permance ram with pair 512MB.
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QUOTE(cafuheva @ Dec 3 2005, 10:07 PM)
I have one Q about adding a new ram, can or not  I want to connect high performance ram to my mobo with non hi performance ram? I now have a pair of apacer pc3200 400Mhz with capacity of 512MB and it combine as a 1GB. And now I want to make it to 2GB by connecting high permance ram with pair 512MB.
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can... ur computer should automatically used the SPD settings for the lower speed rams..
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post Dec 3 2005, 10:20 PM

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anybody can answer me?
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QUOTE(mengfui @ Dec 3 2005, 10:20 PM)
anybody can answer me?
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yes... if u use all 4 slots.. it will work at DDR333 T2

however if u use venice, then they will work at DDR400 2T

but wait.. what proc ur using?
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Dec 3 2005, 10:27 PM)
yes... if u use all 4 slots.. it will work at DDR333 T2

however if u use venice, then they will work at DDR400 2T

but wait.. what proc ur using?
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My mobo got 3 slot only.and it is full now.
I'm using Athlon XP 2000+ only.. tongue.gif
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Well, I guess that the more memory, the better. However, it depends on your pocket and OS (for Windows)
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the most noticeable is from 512 to 1gb, using 2gb now but cant really feel the difference, 2gb rocks in battlefield 2 though smile.gif
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i have been using 512mbx2 KVR for quite sometime...

then recently.. i mean few days back... i added another 2 stick of hyper-x ram... 2x512mb hyper-x..

i check with cpu-z the timing is 2.5 , 3 , 3 , 8

when i play NFS MW... it like hang for 1/2 sec like that... quite alot of times...
anything i can do?
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i thought u cannot mix up with the kvr and hyperx
bcoz both using diff chips
and diff timing whistling.gif
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Dec 8 2005, 08:28 AM)
i thought u cannot mix up with the kvr and hyperx
bcoz both using diff chips
and diff timing  whistling.gif
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It'll run just fine if you set the timings manually.
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QUOTE(yyteik @ Dec 8 2005, 08:15 AM)
i have been using 512mbx2 KVR for quite sometime...

then recently.. i mean few days back... i added another 2 stick of hyper-x ram... 2x512mb hyper-x..

i check with cpu-z the timing is 2.5 , 3 , 3 , 8

when i play NFS MW... it like hang for 1/2 sec like that... quite alot of times...
anything i can do?
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hang 1/2 sec onli then continue? or hang totally?

usually motherboards are quite smart oledi.. if mix hyperx and normal kvr, the board will use the setting from the lower speed ram's SPD

slow cannot run faster, but fast can run slower.. thats all
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hang 0.5sec then cont play.....

so if like dat... it's better for just 2 hyper-x or put in 4 of the rams together??
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post Dec 9 2005, 02:26 PM

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hang 0.5sec then cont play.....

so if like dat... it's better for just 2 hyper-x or put in 4 of the rams together??

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