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post Oct 19 2005, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Swaye @ Oct 18 2005, 08:35 PM)
Nah i'm thinking to purcahse a new pc.. so was just wondering should i save up and go with 2 gigs or just 1 gig first....
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might as well spend more on faster CPU an GC. RAM can be added later, if u compromise u'r CPU for more ram, then u won't be able to use the benefits of it anyway.

QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 19 2005, 11:01 AM)
From the Corsair PDF, 2GB will help tremendously in a few newer games. If you do not play them or still play Starcraft, even 512MB is sufficient. tongue.gif
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Thats the fastest and greatest system i believe....not everyone can get such improvement, heck some even not at all...
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post Oct 19 2005, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Hornet @ Oct 19 2005, 12:04 PM)
Thats the fastest and greatest system i believe....not everyone can get such improvement, heck some even not at all...
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Some time ago...when doom3 was first released, I was on 512mb ram and despite the system (cpu & graphic card) being totally adequate for the resolution....fps all stable and all... there's those irritating once a while jerks (PAGEFILE)... so that's what 2GB's all about.

Pagefiles....bad smile.gif
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post Oct 19 2005, 12:46 PM

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actually 1.5gig is already sufficent for you to play all games with pagefile turn off.
none of the single program/games in windows can utlize more than 1gb

so 1gb max for game+512 for window program.

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post Oct 19 2005, 01:24 PM

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lol

2 giggers are for the people who want to spend on it, it doenst matter if they are really required or not

if u feel like u want to have a bigger dong, why not?

2 gigs are really smooth when ur doing lots of software spamming, abusing etc.

for gaming? nah, i dun buy 2 gigs for gaming, its for my own personal "feel"

and ychwang i see ur having DT-D43 2048mbs (2 giggers) , u lucky boy, i got micron and infineon chips both....sigh


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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Oct 19 2005, 01:24 PM)
lol

2 giggers are for the people who want to spend on it, it doenst matter if they are really required or not

if u feel like u want to have a bigger dong, why not?

2 gigs are really smooth when ur doing lots of software spamming, abusing etc.

for gaming? nah, i dun buy 2 gigs for gaming, its for my own personal "feel"

and ychwang i see ur having DT-D43 2048mbs (2 giggers) , u lucky boy, i got micron and infineon chips both....sigh
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Putting things into perspective....

2GB today?
- If don't play BF2, then ya don't need it today. Not too long ago, when o/c'er with their magic 256MB BH5's argues that 512MB is more than enough but now almost everyone's on 1GB.

2GB way of the future? (Thread title)
- Of course.
- Even in notebooks.. when my wife bought her carmel, it was 128MB standard. Then when Dothan was launched, everyone bundles 256MB, Nowadays.. almost nothing has less with 512MB. And in the recent couple months, even the entry level models in some countries have 1GB standard.


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post Oct 19 2005, 01:50 PM

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Actually even far cry benefits somewhat with 2gb. Level load times are so much faster. Boiling point also benefits a lot. I'm sure practically all upcoming games with eye candy will benefit from 2gb.
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post Oct 19 2005, 01:52 PM

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For BF2, just that game alone takes more than 1.3GB already

Moreover, you can't really get 1.5GB unless you run 3 sticks, which kills off dual channel.

QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 19 2005, 12:46 PM)
actually 1.5gig is already sufficent for you to play all games with pagefile turn off.
none of the single program/games in windows can utlize more than 1gb

so 1gb max for game+512 for window program.
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 19 2005, 01:52 PM)
For BF2, just that game alone takes more than 1.3GB already

Moreover, you can't really get 1.5GB unless you run 3 sticks, which kills off dual channel.
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1.5gig can be done with 512x2 + 256 x 2.

when i match dt-d43+btj(256), still manage to go 250mhz, oclockablity is not much affected.

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post Oct 19 2005, 02:08 PM

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i read in FM, people are saying even with 2 gigs there's still some hitching in FEAR shakehead.gif
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:10 PM

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Yup, you are right. That's assuming you have 2 x 256MB, as what I have all the while is 2 x 512MB only.

If we put it this way, it might be successful to enable dual channel.

512MB (Channel A)
256MB (Channel cool.gif

512MB (Channel A)
256MB (Channel cool.gif


QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 19 2005, 02:01 PM)
1.5gig can be done with 512x2 + 256 x 2.

when i match dt-d43+btj(256), still manage to go 250mhz, oclockablity is not much affected.
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:11 PM

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Yup, I am getting a lot of stuttering even though my frame rates are okay.

QUOTE(bossnass15 @ Oct 19 2005, 02:08 PM)
i read in FM, people are saying even with 2 gigs there's still some hitching in FEAR  shakehead.gif
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2GB for games which uses lots of AI too...
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(hardyboyz888 @ Oct 19 2005, 01:14 AM)
2GB for games which uses lots of AI too...
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:31 PM

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if you able to turn off windows xp page file, and still encounter hitching, adding more ram doesnt help at all, bcoz it still have to load sound/graphic from ur hdd during game play.

I think the hitching in fear bcoz of slow gpu/cpu or slow hardisk.

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Not sure if you meant me, coz I am getting stuttering and I noticed that my hdd led is on during those times. I dunno about you, when I set too low of Page file, even not to the extend of disabling it, my system would hang when it needs more RAM.

I dun think my hardware is really that slow since I use A64 @ 2.6ghz, 7800GTX in SLI and 10K Raptor 73GB hdd.

QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 19 2005, 02:31 PM)
if you able to turn off windows xp page file, and still encounter hitching, adding more ram doesnt help at all, bcoz it still have to load sound/graphic from ur hdd during game play.

I think the hitching in fear bcoz of slow gpu/cpu or slow hardisk.
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:37 PM

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the hitching issues is at what kinda settings ?

coz i plan to get fear to work on my weaker than weak pc
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 19 2005, 02:34 PM)
Not sure if you meant me, coz I am getting stuttering and I noticed that my hdd led is on during those times. I dunno about you, when I set too low of Page file, even not to the extend of disabling it, my system would hang when it needs more RAM.

I dun think my hardware is really that slow since I use A64 @ 2.6ghz, 7800GTX in SLI and 10K Raptor 73GB hdd.
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u should try to add 2gb ram and completely turn off the pagefile when play FEAR.

btw, r u running any background program in window desktop? When i open my abit EQ in background, playing NFS:underground also got hitch.

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post Oct 19 2005, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(zx7177 @ Oct 19 2005, 02:37 PM)
the hitching issues is at what kinda settings ?

coz i plan to get fear to work on my weaker than weak pc
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dun expect it can run on weak pc.

with 9800p+3.0c+2g ram also quite lag in medium detail+1024x768+no FSAA+no AF
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post Oct 19 2005, 02:58 PM

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ah , i rarely play fps'es at high detail

my setup is a p4 2.4b 512mb ddr333 and x700 128mb

hope can at least play low lorh then sweat.gif
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post Oct 19 2005, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(zx7177 @ Oct 19 2005, 02:58 PM)
ah , i rarely play fps'es at high detail

my setup is a p4 2.4b 512mb ddr333 and x700 128mb

hope can at least play low lorh then sweat.gif
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oh. then should be ok with medium detail without fsaa, but 512 seems not very enuf for this game.


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