QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 29 2012, 02:00 AM)
*My take is, all food had insulin spike (IS)
-Duh! Insulin is elevated in response to meals in healthy individuals.
*what we want to control the amount of insulin spike.
-for what reason? are you diabetic? what makes you think that you can control it enough to have a significant impact? you will need pharmacological doses of insulin through some sort of infusion to have a significant effect on MPS.
*you dont want to take whey together with regular meal.
-why not? what is the composition of said regular meal. do you think your "regular meal" without the whey will have no impact on insulin?
*again when i the best time for a IS is right after workout because you want to also carry all the valuable nutrition for muscle buildings.
-insulin elevation stops muscle protein breakdown, it makes sense. It is something that is usually overblown. A protein sufficient meal itself will exert any anti-catabolic effects. You don't even need mad "insulin spiking" carbs.
*There problem here is, all this analogical method doesnt work for everyone everytime, meaning it defers from a beginner to seasoned lifter and to a lean person.
-what the hell is that gibberish supposed to mean? General methods work across the board, only the finer points differ.
*A very lean person like DL, do not need to care much because the energy burned w/i 24hrs way much greater compared to a beginner and high fat person (~>20%bf).
-Maybe because DL is beast carrying an insane amount of LBM, therefore making his energy needs high. What is your point exactly?
*generally I keep my intake intact with
protein: meat,, milk, egg, nuts
carb: rice, nuts
fat: from all the raw oils and nuts
-lol, that looks extremely boring and unpalatable. you trying to be hardcore?
*i think supplements are overrated for general population.
-depends on what supplements we are talking about. Is fish oil overrated? Is creatine overrated? Don't make blanket statements.
WOW, I didnt know you could take my sentence and split and make couple of questions out of it. Basically you failed or rather ignored to understand the context of the sentence.
Now with all your rattlings, I too failed to get your point,. WHy the need to go around the world to put your point across. Just say in two sentence what are you trying to convey here?
As for IS there 2 things to take note:
IS signals our body of energy abundance is readily available and that it should stop burning fat and start storing.
IS causes too much blood sugar to be transported out of our blood and this results in our blood sugar and insulin levels dropping below normal. The cause of this is would be leaving one feeling tired and hungry and would want to eat more after the settles.
This is where the intake of fiber helps regulating digestion and keep IS in check.
Also This is where smaller meals comes in handy as well, as what you did before, correct? What made you stop and when did you stop your 6 meals aday?
I indicated the source of intakes for P/C/F and not as a meal! hence my statement supplement are overated. I didnt include vit and minerals as supplements. For general muscle building, I still standby that we need not take an additional supply, since we could get it from our daily food itself.
By saying that, it doesnt mean that those who are taking supplements are wrong, you have the cash, then go ahead, its individual preference.
As for your IF, how long fasting do you go?
chow.
Added on February 29, 2012, 12:56 pmQUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 29 2012, 02:00 AM)
*generally I keep my intake intact with
protein: meat,, milk, egg, nuts
carb: rice, nuts
fat: from all the raw oils and nuts
-lol, that looks extremely boring and unpalatable. you trying to be hardcore?
if mine is boring, then why did you only include brown rice, wheat pasta, and oats with chicken, chicken chicken in your daily meal?
man, you really like to put others down....throw that attitude bro, its not going to get you anywhere....
This post has been edited by VeeJay: Feb 29 2012, 12:56 PM 
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