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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V16, Saga FLX SE 1.6 -> PRESSURE YOUR PEERS

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MR_alien
post Nov 19 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 19 2011, 02:57 PM)
My car tensioner started to make noise since 20k, now adi 53k, still haven't change. It only make noise during cold start for 2-3 minutes only, after that will become normal.

You can just leave it unless it make noise continuously.

I asked shop outside before, what they told me is around that price, and they told me Proton car tensioner is just suck, they suggest me not to change it becos it won't last as well for the new one.
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did u ask when to change it?
every 80k is it?
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post Nov 19 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 19 2011, 04:53 PM)
Everytime you change your timing belt...like now 53k, not worth to change tensioner alone, because have to dismantle timing belt and other parts, same procedure like change timing belt, so the workmanship adi not worth...
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ic...but did u ask what is included in changing the tensioner belt?
becuz tensioner belt doesn't sell 1 set like timing belt
so far i heard the arm...i dn't know what else
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post Nov 19 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 19 2011, 05:08 PM)
What the heck is a tensioner belt? I thought a tensioner is a wheel that keeps your timing belt taut....does it have it's own belt?
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tensioner belt in saga is a really long long belt that runs if not wrong 3 part of the car
mean 3 part all using 1 single long belt
i remember one of them is the aircon
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post Nov 20 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(BudakSimenXD @ Nov 20 2011, 10:03 AM)
I see. Hope to see a review from you in the future abt this filter. Btw, is white-headlamp legal to use?
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white headlamp is illegal
but if u want legal ones...only 2 can use as i can see
try this seller
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=161320

this seller sell both osram and phillips
if u got the budget...go for the phillips..it's better


Added on November 20, 2011, 11:57 am
QUOTE(BudakSimenXD @ Nov 20 2011, 11:03 AM)
Im kinda interested in using white bulbs, white kind are u using? The ones im talking about are the Osram NightBreaker Plus n Phillips Xtreme Vision. Both sold here, are they both legal? U pernah kantoi roadblock sebab lampu putih tak?  smile.gif
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osram nightbraker plus is the same as osram nightbreaker...the plus is a brand upgrade..bulb no upgrade
price upgrade got la
thats why seller ask buyer to get the old one as possible..cuz its the same

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post Nov 20 2011, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(BudakSimenXD @ Nov 20 2011, 12:10 PM)
For light bulbs  in BLM n FL both same am i right?
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same..proton all along use H4 in their model
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post Nov 20 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 20 2011, 01:36 PM)
Hv yet 2examine headlamps...sorry...but hv read somewhere FL using H7, not H4 as in earlier BLMs?
Wat me can see are 2 separate bulbs...1 for low beam & another for high.

Can pls confirm? TQ.
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hmm..never knew proton would use H7 bulb
most model i saw all use H4
and to tell u...H7 quiet hard to find
at least here in sabah....that time someone ask my friend got H7 or not..my friend dn't have stock for that cuz its rare...not alot of car uses it
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post Nov 20 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(stanleypua @ Nov 20 2011, 02:18 PM)
Don't worry lowyat garage got a lot here He he
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ya...automotive garage got
but dn't think they will get too much stock cuz not alot of car uses it
but if told them FL and FLX uses it...they might get more stock
but nt sure why proton switch to H7...any difference?
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post Nov 20 2011, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(koh_424 @ Nov 20 2011, 03:04 PM)
Osram Nightbreaker & Philips Xteme both are legel to use.

Last time i used Nightbreaker kena by JPJ once. They asked me to do high beam for few second then change back to low beam. Just to test is it Xenon or normal bulb.

Osram Nightbreaker life spend is shorter then Philips Xtreme. Is bout 9months+. But Philips i have been use bout 1yr+ still very good. Brightness i feel Nightbreaker is bit brighter (just my 2sen).
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from what i read..osram one is white
the philips one is got yellow...so rain and fog also can use...white is useless in rain
got budget thn get the philips one


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 20 2011, 03:14 PM)
The Nightbreaker have a longer lasting one called Nightbreaker Plus, no?
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erm..it depends one how u use actually
some ppl say the plus is just a name and price upgrade...the bulb didn't improve
some say last longer...probably due to hw they use it

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post Nov 20 2011, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(17osm17 @ Nov 20 2011, 03:43 PM)
is it possible to change saga blm suspension setup into FLX setup? heard its better. how much better is it?
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sure...change to harder spring and better absorber
better cuz the spring is stiffer...if not wrong when ppl sit the the back..the rear of the car doesn't go down
cornering also better
but wait till your abs spoil 1st thn only change...dn't waste it

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post Nov 20 2011, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(17osm17 @ Nov 20 2011, 03:47 PM)
ok thx bro. cos my rear suspension got nyek nyek sound when someone sits in and gets out of car.
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if u want thn change the rear only thn
from the seller to the workshop i go to install
they all tell me that the rear will spoil 1st
the workshop also say all of the saga that go there change abs...all mostly ONLY change the rear
not alot change the front cuz it wasn't spoil
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post Nov 20 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(stanleypua @ Nov 20 2011, 05:59 PM)
Wiring and lamp space issue i believe
Flx and fl headlamp , high beam n low beam different bulb , so total got 4 bulb. Quite costly though if wan change all four sweat.gif
Flx lamp space very very small .....cant even fit in a small fish eyes...... cry.gif I was planning to get one pair fish eyes but howie told me cant fit  cry.gif
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4 bulb so much?
so total 6?
4 is for headlamp and another 2 is the dim light?


Added on November 20, 2011, 9:48 pm
QUOTE(BudakSimenXD @ Nov 20 2011, 06:21 PM)
I wonder what will be the new tagline for FLX SE... Lagi Power, Lagi Smooth, Lagi best?
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i think it will be lagi power, lagi murah, lagi stable = u should know who are they attacking/talking abt brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(cyrusdidi @ Nov 20 2011, 10:26 PM)
hey thanks for the info. Went early morning today to the authorized service center[ssh]. Found out that the steering rack is leaking, claiming the warranty and waiting for the parts to arrive. 
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yes...better service at SC 1st
if u insist want cheap service/labour and want to service outside
at least wait until 20k KM..the major service
if reach 20k no prob...thn can proceed to service outside
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post Nov 21 2011, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(stanleypua @ Nov 21 2011, 12:24 AM)
Yup kinda freak me out when i change to 4300k. Include signal bulb total 8 for the front blink.gif
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signal ones are still cheap...few buck for japanese ones
the headlamp one are the expensive ones

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post Nov 21 2011, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(daMieNyuZry @ Nov 21 2011, 01:14 AM)

1. ok2....coz i feel that my car wipers seems to be like 'not really clear' when turned it on (raining day of course... tongue.gif ). Any wipers can recommend for changing?

2.  all right....ahahhaa...what a relief...thanks mate...~!  rclxms.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif
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if u got the budget for it
thn directly go for PIAA wiper
it can easily last at least 5 years
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post Nov 21 2011, 02:02 PM

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whats the better effect of that diffuser?
more stable high speed?
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post Nov 22 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 22 2011, 10:19 AM)
Anyone knows wat eng oil used in assembly plant? Same?

Mayb the diff in performance due2 consequence after how we drive our cars compared 2way they test engines @factory?

Can anyone enlighten re this phenomenon? whistling.gif
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petronas, shell ...those oil suck la from my experience
i've been using it all these while since the car is bought just becuz its cheap
now that engine oil hiked 2 times...i change already..now the engine is super quiet and rev happy and light
and somemore the oil i used is just SL...not SM
am using liqui moly(RM118)...or u can try koh_424's Agip...since those petronas already RM103...add few bucks only
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post Nov 22 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(nazri86a @ Nov 22 2011, 12:07 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
bro what diff 15w and 10w.. my friend said better use 10w for cold start at morning..  icon_question.gif
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winter...i think doesn't work here
so most ppl when buy oil here...asking recommendation ...usually ppl will say XW-40/XW-50
u can get any W
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post Nov 22 2011, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Nov 22 2011, 02:40 PM)
Since we hear of a no. of Bros lamenting their rides becoming more sluggish after oil change @1k Km, cld it be becoz Proton Assembly Plants initially put in SAE30 grade oil?
Wld explain the diff felt when SCs change to SAE40, rite? whistling.gif
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it depends how sluggish it is
last time 50 thn went to 40...not much difference..only smoother in pickup
it could be what kind of oil they poured...should ask SC...a good oil makes a whole lot of difference
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post Nov 22 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(catalystgenesis86 @ Nov 22 2011, 03:15 PM)
but i went to this SC @ sea park that day it clearly stated that must buy the oil that they carry on their shelf.. cannot bring own oil.. which other SC in PJ area that have the allowance to bring own oil for service?
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some can some cannot
the proton edar SC i go previously allow use own oil
but that time using shell becuz its still cheap and SC allow that oil(this one care less)
most of the time becuz its cheap..RM90 i bought mine
but now since engine oil hiked twice...my place here shell HX7 - RM109...expensive already
thn recently just switch to better oil which is just few bucks more expensive only
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QUOTE(catalystgenesis86 @ Nov 22 2011, 03:30 PM)
I found this eneos oil brand at the auto garage market. Is it good?
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yes good
a good oil
u watch carefully the label / the back of the bottle
see if it contains molybdenum(if not wrong), ester, PAO
eneos itself contains molybdenum
simply said molybdenum - makes the engine smooth and quiet
ester, PAO = make the engine lighter, easier to rev and pickup faster


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