Hi All,

Looking for a band to jam with is tough. It's even tougher to find one that does it purely for fun (not a full-time job) and even if you did find one, the schedules don't fit with all the members, especially those who have a day job like me.

Most often than not, we give up looking for one and just play/practice with the comfort of our homes. What if you can change that? What if you would be able to jam with your fellow musicians without gathering them in one place, that you could learn and play at your own pace? What if you will be given a chance to improve yourself, would you take it?

If you would take that chance, please read on.

So I am wondering if any of you here are interested working on a collaboration project covering songs of our choice. I am a noob rhythm guitarist myself and I have cover some songs for practice . Might as well be serious about it and if I can't join/get some people in a band, then why not do it in our own leisure time, wherever and whenever.

Basically, this is what we would need to start the project:

1. Choice of songs to cover, or any original songs would do too
2. Able to use Ableton (i.e. Live 8) or any DAW that would suit you best, this including your choice of VST (i.e. Guitar Rig 4, Amplitube) through an audio interface (i.e. Line6, Behringer, etc.). Why need a DAW and VST? Because this will standardize our recordings and editing the final work should be easier, aside from the better quality of recordings.
3. Able to use Sony Vegas for video recording and editing. If we choose to do purely audio, then this is not necessary. But if you're not shy to show-off your skills and put on youtube, this will be handy. For more on this: Youtube Collaboration

And this is what we would do:
1. Using the choice of song, we would build the parts one by one.
2. You record your part and send to each members.
3. Each will have their own turn to put up their ideas into the song (more improvisation is better).
4. Each work will be collated and final editing will be done. Final copy will be sent to each for approval or if changes will be done if needed.

This is for fun purposes only and as a way to learn from fellow musicians. So any of you who have a spare time, kindly PM me and start this.
Imagine if we do a full band cover, that should be epic!






Note:
1. This is for fun purposes only (non-commercial).
2. No copyright infringement is intended for the songs that are chosen for covers.


Thank you for your time. Rock on!






PROGRESS REPORT


This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 7 2012, 11:04 AM

would be very interested,but need to buy audio interface.no money.no recording skills T_T

Not really br0, as long as you can record cleanly, should be no problem.
You can directly plug your guitar on your pc (with the adaptor of course). Have you tried to use any , like Amplitube 3, Guitar Rig 4, Audacity, FL Studio or Ableton Live?

never use 1.but ive downladed amplitube 3.lets see what i can learn from it.neway what songs are u planning to cover?im a bassist anyway,with very little guitar skills.haha

Deadfrog suggested these songs, and I think Its kinda cool.

- Jar Of Hearts (rock version) by Christina Perri
- Secrets (rock version) by One Republic
- Famous Last Words by My Chemical Romance
- Mama Mia (rock version) by Abba

Now we got a bassist, rhythm g, lead g.. now any drummer and vocalist interested?

if a violin fit well, i might give it a try.

Little Ice, that would be awesome. If we are to cover "Secrets", can you play the cello part in violin? it would be a little different, so its niceee

listened to the song, should be no problem transposing it. i might just make a blur video cause i want to remain anonymous, but i have good recording equipment for good clear sound.

this is interesting, but i think the band is already full

Hi bro, drummer and a vocalist still needed, maybe 2 vocalist, a male and female depending on song choice

Send me your emails so we can start on this collaboration. Thanks!

shit, haven't fully learn the songs i've suggested. i'll experiment some this weekend

ok... here's one:



This post has been edited by deadfrog: Oct 15 2011, 07:16 PM

Very very nice suggestion you have there~

Wish I could join as well desu~

Deadfrog, I have practice 'Secrets' today. But havent uploaded to youtube (ayam shy) haha.

Check this out, some solo improvisations on the middle and last part, and I've added the rhythm guitar too.

Secrets - Rock Cover

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Added on October 15, 2011, 9:54 pmHi Aine, everyone who can contribute is welcome., this is for fun only


This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Oct 15 2011, 09:54 PM

cool... added u as my facebook friend.

Hi desu~

I try to adjust my time and will PM you if I can contribute.

Thank you.

ok,1st level finish.ive learn how to record cleanly still dont know how to mix and to use the effects.but i have a bit of confidence in joining in now hope u can teach me here and there about this amplitube

the song begin with cello (violin for me) part, but i'll add in the violin once the whole structure is firm, just a guitar track will do. i don't want to be the core person of the project, just want to add violin track for fun. leave the bars necessary for the violin will do.

Hey bro, good job!

If you are using amplitube, you can choose the built-in presets in there. You can see at the bottom there are 1 to 4 tracks. Usually I load the song (or backing track) at the first slot (numbered 1), for this you need to turn off the amplitube effects so it wont get messed up (theres an icon at the very bottom, farthest right). And for the guitar, you can use slot number 2, turn on the effects icon and choose a preset. You can also just record straight away using clean channel, and at playback you can experiment with the presets. Once the choose the desired preset you can export the tracks. Oh btw, if you have time, download also Ableton. This is easier to use during recording. You will need the Amplitube as a plugin instead (me, i refer guitar rig 4 as plugin). Il take screenshots later and show it to you.

You can also check the tutorial at youtube:



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For our first collaboration, we will cover 'Secrets' as this is an easy song to play with.

Song details:
Tempo: 148 bpm (as per original), ensure to use metronome always when recording.

Key: D Major, with chords progression D-F#m-Bm-G

Length: 3:55 with proper ending (no fading)

Intro: Violin solo (by 'little ice) will go on for 8 measures followed by vocals (violin plays for another 8 measures.

Guitars:

Rhythm (Dist) and Solo (2 parts) - Me and Deadfrog will work on this, need to discuss the improvisation parts
Bass - More on this later.

Drummer - More on this later. I'm not sure if a drummer can record a clean one using acoustic drum, else we resort to electronic drums since it has a midi output that can be recorded directly to pc. If we can't find one, then we do it using drum software like cakewalk, etc. (prefers acoustic drum). Anyone please?


Vocals - We currently don't have a vocalist, though I can find one. It will be epic if a female will sing this song (note: need to change the song key if ever). Something like this:




Guys, please use this thread to update our progress. If you guys have time, please create account in soundcloud.com so we can put our Work In Progress tracks in there so we can easily share our recordings to each other. This is my channel:

http://soundcloud.com/marksherman


Rock on!

i'm not sure soundcloud allows copyrighted material to be published publicly. i guess if it's private it's ok. i found another site worth exploring, it's an online DAW application. you can record directly via the web but the effects are pretty limited for free accounts. the site is http://www.indabamusic.com. i would think it is easier to work in an online DAW app as compared to soundcloud. we can add multiple tracks i.e. guitars, bass, drums, vox etc in a project and we can control the timing of the song as well a lot more easier. just like your regular DAW.

This post has been edited by deadfrog: Oct 17 2011, 04:10 PM

^Depends on the disclaimer type. Anyway, that online DAW looks nice. I'm still waiting reply from my friend whether he can do the drum tracks. I assume the drum and bass lines goes first, then guitar tracks and the vocals last.

oh... my friend bassist's not interested. we'll have to find 1. oh... i would like to replace Famous Last Words with Grenade by Bruno Mars

Hey we need a bassist, are you interested?

quite interested.can count me in for the collab.only need to learn more about recording.never do that before and maybe its helpful if u state ur expectation for this project.ill try my best to contribute

killerkamote, PM me once your base track/structure (drums or bass or guitar) is done. i'll add in the violin part.

Guys, still need a vocalist? this idea seems interesting.

Here's a video of me.

ok... here's my rendition of Secrets by One Republic

nice project would be awesome to join....

Hi Bro,
You're welcome to join as we currently don't have any vocalist. I was also thinking maybe you can fill in the drums too. Would you be able to have a clean track sample for the drums just like in this drum cover:


Very nice bro! Can you send me the rhythm part track alone?
I'll try to blend in some improvisations as I had put it in my cover:
Secrets - Rock Cover


Hi Bro,
Damnit your Steve Vai's cover was effing nice. Would love to jam with you too.
What covers do you have in mind? Thanks!

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Oct 24 2011, 01:45 PM

u mean my guitar track? it sound so rough, i never practiced it. i just went for it and recorded it. but if u insist, here http://soundcloud.com/matikatak/secrets-0-deadfrog-guitar u can download it cause i've share it with ur soundcloud account.

This post has been edited by deadfrog: Oct 24 2011, 02:31 PM

Oh i mean can you re-record it and share to me? Maybe you can play around with other settings too (i.e. compression, etc) so I only need to adjust the volume thresholds only to make room for the vocals to stand a bit.

We don't have any drummer yet ;(

i can re-record it. however, i'll most likely play it a bit differently.

Sure, that is OK, take your time. Let's give our best shot even if we have to record so many retakes. We should aim for quality, so there's no need to rush things.

i can try fit in with bass if have the drum track,but if theres not i can just try to cover based on the original version.by the way,am i still in?

Err drums is gonna be a problem because my drumming is only so-so. so i'd rather not. hahaha

Oh i thought you were not interested anymore haha. No problem bro, youre still IN.
Once we have the drum part covered, you're the first to go. Please practice improvisation part for the bass.


Seems we have a problem for the drum part. I'll see what I can do this weekend, any ideas on what software can we used for the drums ? one that should sound close to acoustic drums. Is cakewalk OK ? Have not tried any yet..

Do you mean you wanna digitally do beats? If so then my best bet would be FL Studio i guess?
But if you wanna record drums Ableton shouldn't be a problem.

Yes, digitally do beats. That's our last resort though haha.
Let me check FL studio on weekend

im following the thread silently got ableton live 8,but not really understand the interface.how to make amplitube 3 as plugins?i get confused about that

LOL... i too was baffled by it initially when i 1st installed it. it's basically quite simple. u get the plug-in from the plug-in browser (click the little icon that says "plug-in" to view your plug-ins), which is at the left and drag it into a box which says Drop Audio Effects Here, which is at the bottom.

oh.. in order for ableton to find where are ur plug-ins. goto option -> preference -> file folder. there u can specify where ur plug-ins r located in ur harddrive.

i strongly suggest u read the manual. setting up for recording is quite challenging. playback is another challenging task, i don't recall reading it specifically in the manual on how to playback your recorded track. it's designed such to avoid accidental recording during playback. which imo, is a good feature.

This post has been edited by deadfrog: Oct 25 2011, 12:48 PM

Hm... This is very interesting. Can't wait for the final product
Famous Last Words is really hard to sing. The singer need to hit high notes constantly. Besides, I think most songs by My Chemical Romance need to have a little 'attitude' or 'character' to it while delivering them. But then again, a cover shouldn't sound like the ori hehe.
I'm gonna keep on stalking this thread.

Good luck guys.

EDIT: Okay so I missed the part where it says that the song will be Grenade by Bruno Mars and not Famous Last Words by MCR
But it's even a more tricky song!
Okay Ima shut it. Bubbyes and goodluck.

This post has been edited by Mika Armada: Oct 26 2011, 09:59 PM

So.. What's the progress guys? haha

waiting for drum track and improvising bass

think we drop 'jar of hearts' and 'grenade'. jar's too delicate to be spoiled. i don't like grenade's lyrics, if we play it loud it will sound like a loser venting off steam from a recent breakup with his girlfriend.

i propose something more cheerful like 'Big In Japan' by Alphaville

we'll keep Mama Mia and continue to work on Secrets

Since u guys haven't really decide to which songs to play, may I suggest one?
The song is called "Your Mistake" by Sister Hazel. Mind you, the title may be misleading, but give it a listen. And yeah, it's a happy song
A quote from wiki;
"Their music is characterized by highly melodic tunes and generally optimistic lyrics."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Hazel

Goodluck

This post has been edited by Mika Armada: Oct 28 2011, 03:54 PM

Hi everyone. I do cover of Dewa 19's Separuh Nafas. Cekidaud! =)

http://soundcloud.com/miqa/separuh-nafas-dewa-19-cover

My facebook page. Please 'like' if you like....

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Miqa-Music/2...=app_2405167945

Bro, You're on the wrong thread!!


Deadfrog, listening to Big in Japan - dafuq its a retro! We would need a keyboardist to pull that off, unless you have a great idea if it can be done by guitar. let me know ok?
Unless we make it rock version, totally our own then should be ok. I'll ponder on this more.


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OK, so I have installed FL Studio on my pc and I'm trying to figure shit out, may take me some time though haha

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Added on October 30, 2011, 12:47 pmNice upbeat song, but needs a vocalist good enough not to ruin the song lol
oh, acoustic guitar needed.

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Oct 30 2011, 12:47 PM

make Big In Japan rock

wow this is a great idea. if you need a female vocalist for collab, do inform me ne. I'm more into Japanese songs, but would love to try English songs too.

Something like this, or maybe if you have any songs in mind that I'm able to work on:

Untouched : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykW4rtW2eu0&ob=av2e
Never Alone : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8QubLxJI54&ob=av2e
Decode : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvnkAtWcKYg

This post has been edited by kaoru himura: Oct 30 2011, 02:51 PM

Hi Kaoru,
You do really have a nice voice! So you do Paramore covers right? We'll get to that eventually.
Can you sing female version of 'Secrets'?

oh... just to inform u, i deactivated my FB. we'll have to communicate here from now on.

im not pro but im interest

any position for drum?

Finally! Yes bro we need a drummer, can you do the drum part of 'Secrets' by One Republic?
It's an easy song to start with. We will be covering some challenging ones eventually.

yay~! do keep me updated ya~!
I haven't try Paramore yet, but I think their song suits me and I might be able to do the vocals. As for 'Secrets', let me try and I'll inform you the outcome. If you have the off vocal ver of the song for me to do voice testing please share with me.

can give me more info on the project. i do b4 then kena abandon dun wanna kena again


also can give me link to the song?

Hi Kaoru,

This is a sample female cover of the song (its acoustic though), well, we are doing a rock cover so its up to you really how you make it your own.



Hi Bro, this is the original song:



and this is the sample drum cover (you may improvise yourself):



For more info, please read post #1

OK. Just to share how I'd played the song the 2nd time. This time I'm not improvising. I've put/played the solo towards the end of the song. I've also leave a space where initial there was a guitar solo in the middle of the song.

k cool i cant iew deadfrog stuff

http://youtu.be/BkNwBNa_XCA

it sayd contain conetent from umg cant watch

means i ned download wat to watch?

hmm... wait.. let me make it public

ok... it's public now.



or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkNwBNa_XCA

This post has been edited by deadfrog: Nov 1 2011, 12:49 PM

Bro its copyrighted material (video) that's why jootube took it down

Maybe you can try to upload the soundtrack alone (soundcloud, etc)

try again.

i will try to test-cover Secrets tonight (i mean, later tonight..) once its done i'll post a link here for you to decide if I'm in or not.

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~after a few hours~
Here you are : http://www.mediafire.com/?q3q3dhkyd32os2v
So sorry for the crappy cover, 'terbabas' here and there....not accustomed to the song yet.

Busted around the line "Don't care if critics never jump in line", will always left the "never"...and I terbabas on the final part too, so please excuse me.


This post has been edited by kaoru himura: Nov 5 2011, 02:38 AM

Since you guys seem to like to make rock versions of a song, check this out. Hands down, this is the best cover of Adele's song that exists.



This post has been edited by nabzblitz: Nov 5 2011, 09:32 PM

This is a nice cover, it's definitely your own style
Anyway, can you record the vocal track alone, without the backing track?


I agree with you bro.
Hmm, have you record the vocal part of Secrets? Im thinking maybe you and Kaoru can make a duet on this (i.e. 1st verse Male, 2nd verse female..)

really? >///< thank you...
Duet? wow thats even better~! XD

Yeah this is this a trial, I will need to re-record it again, and submit to you guys without background sound. The one I did have too many mistake...Q_Q
When is the due date, and how is the progress of the instrumental collab?


This post has been edited by kaoru himura: Nov 7 2011, 12:13 AM

I have been discussing with Wintersun and he's coming up with the sample drum tracks. I need to check whether his recording can be done cleanly or not.

For the others, we already have the guitar parts and all. I'll discuss with nablitz and you for your parts, I have already msg him to record the vocal track sample of his so I can evaluate where the duet would be.

Hope by next weekend we have all the samples, and proceed to re-record the final individual tracks.

Anyway, I've received Deadfrogs guitar riffs and your vocal sample.
Thank you guys!

Not yet, but i can start probably on the weekend. i'll probably need at least the guitar track to work with.

@Kaoru how about if i do the verse and you do the chorus?

ill try to give my bass demo within this week.im just a moderate bassist,hope that my work will be acceptable.neway how to send u the demo?by soundcloud is it?

Like the song airplane right? (the B.o.B song), the girl sing chorus and the guy sing the rest of the song not a bad idea, I wont' mind. I'll leave it to killerkamote7 and you to decide then.

I don't mind either. I respect everyone's creativity =)

Thats very nice of you, thank you so much
I'm ok with it, but I do have some suggestions. Since is a duet, maybe we can try out this simple partitions. I'm imagining A is me (since intially the suggestion is for me to take the chorus part), and B is nabzblitz

I suggested this to create some sort of...balance so that the duet arrangement got a little exciting Again, I leave it all to you guys to decide.

Secrets : One Republic
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A: I need another story
Something to get off my chest
My life gets kinda boring
Need something that I can confess

B : Til’ all my sleeves are stained red
From all the truth that I’ve said
Come by it honestly I swear
Thought you saw me wink, no
I’ve been on the brink, so

A :Tell me what you want to hear
Something that were like those years
Sick of all the insincere
So I’m gonna give all my secrets away
This time, don’t need another perfect line
Don’t care if critics never jump in line
I’m gonna give all my secrets away

A: My god, amazing how we got this far
It’s like we’re chasing all those stars
Who’s driving shiny big black cars

B : And everyday I see the news
All the problems that we could solve
And when a situation rises
Just write it into an album
Singing straight, too cold
I don’t really like my flow, no, so

A : Tell me what you want to hear
Something that were like those years
Sick of all the insincere
So I’m gonna give all my secrets away
This time, don’t need another perfect line
Don’t care if critics never jump in line
I’m gonna give all my secrets away

B : Oh, got no reason, got not shame
Got no family I can blame
Just don’t let me disappear
I’mma tell you everything

A : So tell me what you want to hear
Something that were like those years
Sick of all the insincere
So I’m gonna give all my secrets away
This time, don’t need another perfect line
Don’t care if critics never jump in line
I’m gonna give all my secrets away

A&B: So tell me what you want to hear
Something that were like those years
Sick of all the insincere
So I’m gonna give all my secrets away
This time, don’t need another perfect line
Don’t care if critics never jump in line
I’m gonna give all my secrets away
All my secrets away, All my secrets away

I'm interested in the Drums!! Can I join? But after SPM. And Sony Vegas? No problem, Adobe After Effects also can! I make sure the video veli veli Good!

@Kaoru I like the balance idea but i personally think that my voice is better suited for the verse and yours for the chorus. hahaha. I THINK what we could do though is harmonize this part:
"And everyday I see the news
All the problems that we could solve
And when a situation rises
Just write it into an album
Singing straight, too cold
I don’t really like my flow, no, so"

"Oh, got no reason, got not shame
Got no family I can blame
Just don’t let me disappear
I’mma tell you everything"

And i can do the backing vox for chorus as well. What do you think?


@OH- I think we already have a drummer though.

This post has been edited by nabzblitz: Nov 9 2011, 12:17 AM

Waaaah this is such an interesting project! Can't wait to hear the first finalized song. ^-^
Wish I had better stuff to record. Not that I'm good at anything.. :/

not doing the vocal but i like ur idea.better if both of u can work out on background singing also

Um, i guess you are right no problem~! I'm gonna do my best~!


Ehehe this is gonna be my first english collab, so I'm very nervous....
Ne you sing too?


i wish the same let see how it goes na~!

hi all

im the official drummer for this project

nice 2 meet u all

I'm sure you'll do great! (I didn't have the opportunity to listen to any songs for the past few weeks, but I'll listen as soon as possible. :3)
I do love to sing, but unfortunately I'm not good at it. I also slightly play the drums, lol. xD

oh, im a guitarist and interested with this kind of project. previously i've done a project like this with a drummer from UK. Do pm me if you need any/extra guitarist.

Goodluck guys.!!!!!

Congratulations on the progress!

Cheers from kirovdust

Thanks master kirov!


@WinterSun,

Hey come send me the file faster lah! LOL

the master has get angry.LOL
killer,want to ask about ableton.ive already know how to record single bass track now.but not very sure on how to combine that bass track with original song.how to make a single track that consist of the bass track and the song track together so that it would sound like what u post in ur facebook page?(there u combined tracks of ur guitars and ori song and drums right?)

Oh that, you have to export the track (at File menu), Ableton will collate all the tracks into one. You have to tweak the settings though according to your requirement. Basically AVI format will give you the highest quality (high bitrate) but the file size is huuuugggeee. I usually save the track in WMV (ver. 11) format, cause this has good enough quality to upload in youtube or fb.

On part of this audio mastering, I also tweak the volume/peaks of the audio, including whether i want it on L or R channel alone (particularly those song parts that has 2 guitars, I will set each guitar playing on L or R). Hope this helps.



I already got the sample track from Wintersun today, but not very sure If I'd be able to fully clean it up, will let you know guys this weekend. Worse thing that can happen, we resort to a drum track instead =(

Deadfrog, maybe you can help me on this too, I'll share with you the sample track he gave me on your soundcloud account

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 16 2011, 11:35 AM

Woah, seems like it is progressing nicely!
Every time I see this topic, the song gets stuck inside my head. Nice pick, haha!

Oh yeah, for now do you need my vocal track with the song in the background or without?

FUU official drummer~

Gratz!

nabzblitz >> hmm I think just vocal will do rite killerkamote7? And if possible, can I send my vocals after nabzblitz? since I will sing the chorus only, I think its better for me to listen to his ver first, so maybe I have an idea to insert the harmonies on the suggested part we mentioned previously?

Do we need to wait for the complete assemble instrumental from our official musicians (proud of u guys XD) then we record our vocals, or we can just send our vocals now?

Yes you can send the vocals to me already, but send me the backing track that you used also so that we can baseline the songs' bpm.

I just returned from outstation and will continue to work on this for the weekend..


Update 20 November 2011

Testing the sample work given by DeadFrog and Kaoru and remixed the 3 tracks including mine.
This is just a preview/sample of what it looks like:



Secrets - Draft Version

My suggestions:

For Deadfrog,
1. maybe I'll take care of guitar part on 1:00 to 1:13, I'll use the coil tap on this one (you may provide the same licks as your 0:35-0:48) and Middle solo part, you may take care of the rest.
2. You take the Ending Solo also (I'll provide backing guitar and muted rhythm at left channel)


For Kaoru,
1. You can take the chorus part and duet vocals on the last 2 repeated chorus.


For Wintersun,
I'm working on your drum sample, will let you know today the outcome..

For Nabzblitz,
Please send me your vocal track sample.

For Rarap and Little Ice,
Kindly do the same.


I'm hoping for everyone's cooperation to provide their sample work latest by 27th November (just parts only, no need to complete the whole song, as I will try to check which part we can improve, and so that all can share their opinions and suggestions too.

Thanks all!

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 20 2011, 01:29 PM

ok... i'll work on my part when i come back from kuching next week. i'll be back to kl on friday

hi sorry recently swamped with big projects, will be back on track somewhere next weekdays if i have extra time to spare. but will be free to record it after 27th if i'm unable to make it prior to that day.

Noted guys, should be no problem. Just share it in my soundcloud account when it's available already.

Anyway, here's the sample drum + guitar track (WinterSun + Deadfrog). Let me know if this is OK or not, I need your suggestions/opinions:
Drum Track Sample for SECRETS


For WinterSun,
Can the kick drum be tuned a littler lower? I can't hear it clearly on every 4 measures, and it lacks 'bass'. Not sure if you can enhance it a bit during your recording. We will need a better drum sound than this, would you be able to do it?

The 8th note drum pattern that you made is OK, this should be the correct pattern to play it. I have cutoff both the lower and higher frequencies a bit because there's too much reverb and high-pitched echoes, including scratches.

This post has been edited by killerkamote7: Nov 20 2011, 01:40 PM