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 Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??

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post Nov 20 2020, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 20 2020, 06:52 PM)
Shariah Conservative Fund.
Waiting for opportunity to switch back to Growth Fund.
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Stocks are really too high now, come down a bit pls. Still young man I want more window to collect cheap stocks.
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post Nov 21 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Nov 21 2020, 03:02 PM)
FSM: Manulife PRS APAC Reit will be made available next week

source: comment section at
https://www.facebook.com/fsmonemalaysia/vid...433170461418895
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StashAway really couldnt enter yea, they gonna sapu all the fund houses there.
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post Nov 26 2020, 11:39 AM

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DONT
BOTHER
WITH
FSM

My GOSH printing the forms out, unsure if I am filling it out correctly or not, wait 30-60 mins at post office to get it sent.

NOT WORTH IT.

Just suck up the tiny bit of charges on PPA and avoid all these mess.
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post Nov 26 2020, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Nov 26 2020, 12:01 PM)
Pos laju just beside my area, in Petronas Station. Easy for me
If walk oso reach😁😁😁
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Why macam TTDI
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post Nov 26 2020, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Nov 26 2020, 12:21 PM)
But I'm from sarawak, 🀭🀭🀭
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Coz TTDI post office is also at Petronas
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post Dec 21 2020, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 21 2020, 06:20 PM)
The first time Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C declares distribution:

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Then where do the dividends go?
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post Dec 21 2020, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Dec 21 2020, 07:33 PM)
add into the units loh
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Oh so they automatically buy them on our behalf? Where can we see that transaction?
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post Jan 23 2021, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Jan 23 2021, 02:55 PM)
My opinion:
1. DCA, If don’t want to consider too much just DCA all the way
2. Dump 3k at year end when promotion from FSM- can earn rm40?!
3. Dump 3k when market in deep red,  but this one need patience and monitor the market from time to time. If wait until Nov also no big crash, then go #2

Anyway, PRS is locked till retirement age and one just need to maximise 3k for the tax relief as the main purpose... for me I will go #3
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Should have done (3) in April 2020, now the fund is like +50% since then.

(1) is probably the most sensible choice here, deposit RM 250 every month.
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post Jan 23 2021, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 23 2021, 09:20 PM)
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Affin moderate          IRR 8.01%  ROI  31.37%  (almost 4 year )

Principal Asia Pacific ex Japan        IRR 12.83%    ROI 38.67%  (3 year )

Am Reits              ROI  3.82% (6 month)
Overall  :  IRR  9.94%  ROI  23.97%
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Same here, swear by just AmPRS REIT and Principal AAXJ, performing crazy well so far.
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post Feb 15 2021, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(CaptainGrindy @ Jan 28 2021, 10:37 PM)
guys, im new in this. Any PRS can get 3k tax relief, right? Im looking at Affin Hwang PRS Growth Fund.
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PLEASE read the fund fact sheet first, those conservative/mod/growth funds seem to be really small in size and don't perform as well as those pure equities one.

If you are still young and won't touch the money for 30 years, consider the pure equities one like Principal Asia ex Japan Equities.
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post Feb 18 2021, 05:56 PM

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So after AmPRS REIT ex and reinvested the dividends, the new units showed up on PPA website, but not FSMone.
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post Mar 7 2021, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 7 2021, 12:46 AM)
that had been an extension...

PRS tax relief extension to benefits retirement savers
By FocusM
12/04/2020
https://focusmalaysia.my/mainstream/prs-tax...ir%20retirement.
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More like the benefit the fund houses. PRS funds charge so much, you can just invest elsewhere and beat their returns after fees.
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post Mar 7 2021, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 7 2021, 01:05 AM)
Many had mentioned... They go for PRS just for the tax relief
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Lemme correct it, even with tax relief at tax bracket 24%, there is a solid chance PRS will underperform StashAway or VTI/VXUS ETFs.

Malaysia mutual funds are awkward, they are kinda manual gear with no need to press clutch, we need to know which funds to pick. There is no target date fund or broad market fund (that invests in ALL investable stocks in KLSE), so the funds hole < 100 positions and we kena manually read up on macro econ trends and switch funds, or get rekt later on. shakehead.gif
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post Mar 7 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Mar 7 2021, 07:03 AM)
I beg to differ. PRS tax relief is 14% if you are at the bracket.

Which investment can give guaranteed 14% return?
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14% only the 1st year. In the subsequent years, their expenses can be higher than advertised expense ratio, eating into our return and nullifying even a 24% tax deduction.


QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 7 2021, 08:45 AM)
Yes and no. If it pick lousy funds yes. If you pick good funds no. My principal have been giving me 30% returns. I don't b.lieve stashaway is able to give 30% return p.a

Sometimes fees are worth paying if they can beat the index. I am waiting for them to let intoruduce PRS. But unlikely going to have PRS.
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Same, my Principal AAXJ class C been doing great, but it underperformed KWEB ETF still.

I think lah, if they put stashaway, wahed, akrunow etc into PRS, the fund houses really can ciao ady. Mutual funds are still manual driving, the buyer needs to know which asset class in which geographical location, which market is undervalued, Shiller PE ratio etc before buying it. Also, the fund manager cannot express their views to achieve an investment goals, they can only cherry pick securities to go into the mutual funds.
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QUOTE(emkay_2020 @ Mar 23 2021, 12:50 PM)
Hi , anyone invest this fund in FSM ?

Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity

Is it give good returns so far ?
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Invested through ppa coz its my 1st fund. ROI too good, not sure if it will outperform other indices in coming years.
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post Apr 4 2021, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 2 2021, 02:54 PM)
i think you need to check the prospectus of your PRS fund....
i think i read....inside them,...

DISTRIBUTION OF THE FUNDS
The Funds are not expected to make any distributions. All income earned by you will automatically be reinvested into the Fund.

and also it mentioned
Scheme Trustee : Deutsche Trustees Malaysia Berhad

not sure if they are the same criteria for your PRS fund
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My Principal Asia ex Japan fund macam also like that but still gave dividends anyway. It's reinvested immediately.
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post Apr 4 2021, 10:25 PM

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Annualised return only gets meaningful over very long period of time, like 20-50Y. Very hard to judge a fund like that, so kena compare it against other funds of similar allocations and exposures.
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post Apr 5 2021, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 5 2021, 04:45 PM)
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Walao, the expense ratio must be damn high no?
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post Apr 5 2021, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 5 2021, 04:59 PM)
the image posted by cklimm above ...can see the expense ratio value....
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Kena read the annual report to find the actual expense, Malaysia funds be it PRS, ETF, mutual funds love to charge higher than advertised, coz ppl dont read annual reports.
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post Apr 7 2021, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Apr 7 2021, 12:27 AM)
Thanks guys. I wonder which one you select because there are too many. Lol
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The ones with highest risk ratings rclxms.gif

Lose money dont blame us ah

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