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 Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??

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honsiong
post Feb 17 2019, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 17 2019, 06:10 PM)
can this formula being used if I want to get the NAVs of a few PRS funds?
can putting that formula into different cells works?  notworthy.gif
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Yes. I also use it to track my shares from SGX, basically anything that can be quoted on Bloomberg.
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post Mar 5 2019, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Feb 22 2019, 07:08 PM)
My kenanga existing PRS suffering like 10 percent loss at the moment

Feel like averaging it down but not sure to put in CIMB or kenanga this year
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I put CIMB AAXJ as hedge against Ringgit. If ringgit plunge 20% again in the future, the portfolio value goes up by 20% in our home currency term.

Conversely if Malaysia Ringgit becomes strong you lose money.
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post Apr 16 2019, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 16 2019, 10:09 AM)
ya, probability lower & quantum/% of drop also lower ma, worth the 24% tax relief heheh
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24%? Whale 🐳
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post May 2 2019, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(se800i @ May 2 2019, 10:08 AM)
The rm 1k incentive from who?
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PRS youth bonus. Initial deposit RM1000, government top up RM1000.
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post May 2 2019, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(BroDash @ May 2 2019, 10:54 AM)
still got youth incentive meh?
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They did too late. Some of my friends kena also.
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post May 11 2019, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ May 11 2019, 05:03 PM)
No more youth incentive, why you want to invest in PRS?
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RM3000 tax relief.
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post May 31 2019, 10:42 AM

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PRS without tax relief is pretty pointless. No way I gonna get my money locked up till old age in mutual funds with high expense ratio.


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post Aug 6 2019, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 6 2019, 07:50 PM)
FSM or eUT
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I did it thru PPA website, why not go through that again?

Didn’t know got other channels lah.
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post Oct 23 2019, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(roarus @ Oct 22 2019, 11:46 PM)
I too remember Class C's Total Expense Ratio being a pinch higher than A and X in the prospectus, but Morningstar is showing the same across all classes:
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Either case - as Morningstar graph shows, the difference comes to ~RM2 for RM10,000 invested over almost 7 years. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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I agak agak calculated, across 40Y time horizon A and C cost the same. BTW the actual expense ratio is far far lower, the advertised ratio is maximum they can charge, but in reality the AAXJ fund macam charged only 0.1% with no front loading fee for class C.

Edit: Mea culpa. It's just a feeder fund, the actual fund is much more expensive shocking.gif

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post Mar 27 2020, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 27 2020, 08:57 PM)
Yes only RM 1.5k but it is 50% of the maximum RM 3.0k allowed for income tax relief.

So, this year, can recycle our own money to maximize tax reduction.

How? This one assumes you have a housing loan you want to reduce and you have flexibility to withdraw any extra payment that you pump into the loan. Once it's paid in, you have an extra RM 1.5k to recycle back to PRS - assuming you don't need the money at all. But the paperwork with CTC of bank account statement is a deterrent, especially with the MCO. Adoption rate may be low.
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I have a hunch it can't be that easy, otherwise it's a huge gap overlooked by LHDN.

Will just assume LHDN only give relief for RM3000 going into PRS nett.
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post Apr 2 2020, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Apr 2 2020, 09:10 PM)
for now my prs with Kenanga has grown from positive 10% to negative 20%.
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"grown"

Gonna wait a bit further, still got 9 months away, plenty of falls we have yet to take to hit bottom.

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post Apr 3 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Apr 3 2020, 07:06 PM)
Yeah. Finger cross it won last that long. Hope the impact will be lessen and recover after june.
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QUOTE(sarah0601 @ Apr 5 2020, 10:01 PM)
Hi all, I read in one of the pages that eUT has 'CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity (Class A)' at 0% SC for online buy; anyone familiar with this? I am halfway through this thread, will finish it in a few days time, but so far haven't read much about eUT. Reason why I would like to purchase the class A instead of the class C offered in FSM is cuz I previously purchased some via an agent already, so just thinking of putting it back in the same one. Is eUT as friendly as FSM? Saw that FSM I could skip the sending of document if I'm buying Principal via phone online. Plus the NAV for that fund is low now, so wanna quickly get some to DCA it. biggrin.gif

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post May 13 2020, 05:55 PM

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Can't seem to find anything on PRS withdrawal's impact on tax relief.

Say I withdraw RM1500 but deposit RM3000 in this year, am I reducing taxable income by 1500 or 3000?
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post Sep 25 2020, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Sep 25 2020, 05:29 PM)
Anyone here DCA your PRS fund, eg 500 per 2 months, Or most people lump sum during red?
Previously I always lump sum buy 3000 to prs  in December
This year in this volatile market I plan to buy 1k each in the next three months..
any suggestion?
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Should have lump sum when it was bottom. Only put RM1000 coz I thought it will go down further... nope. doh.gif
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post Nov 6 2020, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 6 2020, 05:11 PM)
This is like add 4 years only. sweat.gif
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Got extend very good ady, don't complain lah.
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post Nov 6 2020, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 6 2020, 05:19 PM)
Personally I think it won't give much boost to encourage people into the scheme.
They should have also double the tax relief amount.
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Funny thing is it benefits the rich people more, those that save more because of their tax bracket and those that have more disposable income.

It seriously doesn't help the B40 group.
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post Nov 7 2020, 01:23 PM

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Speaking of Principal AXJ fund, you can track it in google sheets:

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=index(ImportXML("https://www.principal.com.my/en/cc5", "//td[contains(@class, 'views-field views-field-field-fund-nav')]"), 2, 4)


Look around the site, if the page looks similar to this one I scrape, changing the URL should work. Have fun!
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post Nov 13 2020, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 13 2020, 10:01 AM)
I just wished they would allow those robo to be included for  PRS.
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Singapore SRS actually has StashAway in it, very nice. But I guess the PRS and i-Invest are setup to benefit local banks and fund managers.
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post Nov 20 2020, 04:51 PM

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Bought in a bit CIMB AAXJ at RM0.9 in April, thought it will dip lower.

Nope, its now RM1.2. Cry.

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