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chungf1
post May 31 2012, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(sooieweng @ May 30 2012, 02:16 PM)
Hi,

im interest on OPPO BDP-93, anyone know the current price and where can i get it?..i look for some shop and cannot find this player...
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I saw Oppo BDP-93 and 95 at KLIAV JW Marriot Hotel last year suggest you wait probably on July same venue.
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post May 31 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ May 30 2012, 01:12 PM)
issh....like that susah to check the manufacturing date of the BDP3300 lah......i prefer BDP3300 because it support DLNA and also can play RMVB compare to those Sony players..
so with the CINAVIA feature in, those ahem ahem bluray disc all cannot play rite? even the ahem DVD also cannot play?

so far there is no countermeasure for this CINAVIA security?
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Even DVD from Blu Ray recording carries the Cinavia...I have experienced from 2 DVD BR recording movies on my Samsung BD-D5300, after firmware update.

So far, for out of the box model...s380 and Samsung BD-D5300 is ok but do not update.

Getting older stocks now seems like a wise advice.
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post May 31 2012, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ May 30 2012, 09:48 PM)
BDP-S485 supports DLNA.

RMVB format only supports up to 480p. The average dual core PC can converts RMVB to avi 2 hours length movie in less than 30 mins.


Added on May 30, 2012, 9:50 pm

There's no OPPO distributor  in Malaysia, try Singapore.


Added on May 30, 2012, 9:55 pm

new protection for audio-video called Cinavia. It is reported to be used for protection of movie from theaters and disc releases on DVD & Blu-ray. It consists of a multi-level watermark that is embedded in the audio track and, while being theoretically transparent(not-audible) for the listener, it is supposed to resist various transformations of the audio stream like re-compression, analog playback&record, re-sampling, pitch shift, etc. The base levels are analog, but on the top level there’s the watermark payload that contains some restrictions regarding the playback environment.
ahem ahem blu-ray disc CAN play provided the audio track is NOT CINAVIA infected, you can still play old movies, but not the new ones  and the coming 2013 movies. Cinavia protection needs the player to be cinavia compliant to work, you need both hands to clap.
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so you mean if we get a old bluray player which is not CINAVIA compliant, it can play the new movie with CINAVIA protected without problem rite?

so the new bluray player with CINAVIA compliant with cause problem with CINAVIA protected bluray pirated movies....

sigh....that's the dilemma.....
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post May 31 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ May 31 2012, 01:34 PM)
so you mean if we get a old bluray player which is not CINAVIA compliant, it can play the new movie with CINAVIA protected without problem rite?

so the new bluray player with CINAVIA compliant with cause problem with CINAVIA protected bluray pirated movies....

sigh....that's the dilemma.....
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Yes, absolutely.

Even if you recorded it from cinema with a camcorder to be played with a pendrive, a Cinavia compliant player will stop the playback. The cinavia "sound" can even be captured through the microphone.


Added on May 31, 2012, 11:59 pmSo far ONLY LG allows firmware downgrades.


Added on June 1, 2012, 12:03 am
QUOTE(chungf1 @ May 31 2012, 12:21 AM)
I saw Oppo BDP-93 and 95 at KLIAV JW Marriot Hotel last year suggest you wait probably on July same venue.
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The new models might carry the cinavia tho..

As of 1st February 2012, Cinavia Compliance is mandatory for BDA certification as well as anything that carries the AACS licensing.

ALL BD players MUST comply with AACS, else they wont boot an Original Protected Blu-Ray disc.

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Jun 1 2012, 12:13 AM
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post Jun 1 2012, 07:50 AM

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Final conclusion support original
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post Jun 1 2012, 11:08 AM

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anyone using LG BD-660? any good?
Thanks.
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post Jun 3 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 1 2012, 07:50 AM)
Final conclusion support original
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theres really no justification with the current blu-ray pricing, they force us to actually funding for the DRM technology.. you see..

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post Jun 5 2012, 04:31 PM

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i checked the Philips BDP3300 (with DLNA and play RMVB) manual, in copyright section it mention:

"This product uses Cinavia technology to
limit the use of unauthorized copies of some their soundtracks. When a prohibited use of an unauthorized copy is detected, a message will be displayed and playback or copying will be interrupted."

so it means all this product (regardless of manufacturing date) is CINAVIA protected rite? oh my gosh!!

Then I check another player BDP3200 (no DLNA, play RMVB too) user manual, it didn't specify anything about CINAVIA though, I believe this is an earlier model (compare the new BDP3300).

So, dilemma again, between DLNA feature, RMVB playability, and CINAVIA avoidness......why I cant have these 3 feature under 1 player!!!

:-(

This post has been edited by alesi616: Jun 5 2012, 04:32 PM
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post Jun 5 2012, 11:01 PM

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How about Philips HTS 3541? Free from Cinavia?
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post Jun 6 2012, 09:10 AM

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Have anyone seen the Sony S380 still on sale at 299??

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post Jun 6 2012, 01:21 PM

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i'm using Toshiba BDX1250.... played all ahemm... disc..(so far) RM279... wink.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 09:41 PM

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FYI sony s380 march batch is now CINAVIA infected out-of-the-box.
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post Jun 6 2012, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(d888 @ Jun 6 2012, 09:41 PM)
FYI sony s380 march batch is now CINAVIA infected out-of-the-box.
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Dang... Cant be helped. Any players manufactured after Feb 2012 is CINAVIA compliant, do u know how much the S380 is selling??
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post Jun 8 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeyz @ Jun 6 2012, 10:11 PM)
Dang... Cant be helped. Any players manufactured after Feb 2012 is CINAVIA compliant, do u know how much the S380 is selling??
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Try looking at Sen Heng whether they still carry the older s380 batches...with M06.R.0415 firmware...or older Samsung D5300 with 1022 firmware...

I am sure there some shops still carry some old batch stocks.
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post Jun 10 2012, 10:53 PM

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went to see SenHeng, Courts....no more Sony S380 for rm299.

anyone using Philips BDP3200 or BDP3300 and notice whether they are CINAVIA infected??

BDP3200 sell around rm350 (with HDMI cable) and BDP3300 sell for rm399 (without HDMI cable).....both can support RMVB media file.

Tempting.....but scare bought the CINAVIA unit....


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post Jun 11 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(alesi616 @ Jun 10 2012, 10:53 PM)
went to see SenHeng, Courts....no more Sony S380 for rm299.

anyone using Philips BDP3200 or BDP3300 and notice whether they are CINAVIA infected??

BDP3200 sell around rm350 (with HDMI cable) and BDP3300 sell for rm399 (without HDMI cable).....both can support RMVB media file.

Tempting.....but scare bought the CINAVIA unit....
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Went around KL & PJ area and S380 already no stocks, i caled a friend in Kuching, there are many stocks left but RM399, but no sure the firmware version. Zzzzz


Added on June 14, 2012, 10:14 pmGot my S380 at Sony Gallery Kuching with firmware M06.R.0415 , RM399 free 2GB Sony Camera Thumbdrive.

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post Jun 15 2012, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(d888 @ Jun 6 2012, 09:41 PM)
FYI sony s380 march batch is now CINAVIA infected out-of-the-box.
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Are you sure? Im not sure they're still producing the x80, they are moving to x90 already.

I bought 3 sets for friends around early May, All three sets has 0415 fw.


Added on June 15, 2012, 11:48 pm
QUOTE(tcb2010 @ Jun 8 2012, 12:16 AM)
Try looking at Sen Heng whether they still carry the older s380 batches...with M06.R.0415 firmware...or older Samsung D5300 with 1022 firmware...

I am sure there some shops still carry some old batch stocks.
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Btw. Samsung E5300 stocks are dated April 2012 right on the box.


Added on June 15, 2012, 11:55 pmBDP-S485 (3D Blu-ray, karaoke) is on promotion for RM499 at sony centres. FW rev. 0427 is not cinavia compliant.

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post Jun 16 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Jun 15 2012, 11:46 PM)
Are you sure? Im not sure they're still producing the x80, they are moving to x90 already. 

I bought 3 sets for friends around early May, All three sets has 0415 fw.


Added on June 15, 2012, 11:48 pm
Btw. Samsung E5300 stocks are dated April 2012 right on the box.


Added on June 15, 2012, 11:55 pmBDP-S485 (3D Blu-ray, karaoke)  is on promotion for RM499 at sony centres.  FW rev. 0427 is not cinavia compliant.
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S485 is RM599 @ kuching, sarawak. What a huge gap.

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post Jun 17 2012, 01:30 AM

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Lucky me lah...Seng Heng Kuantan sold me Sony BDP S380 for RM240.. laugh.gif

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post Jun 18 2012, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(encikapas @ Jun 17 2012, 01:30 AM)
Lucky me lah...Seng Heng Kuantan sold me Sony BDP S380 for RM240.. laugh.gif
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Bro, encikapas,

Which branch and when u bought it...RM240 is fabulous deal !!

I bought mine at RM299 at the Bukit Ubi branch about two months ago... Thought of getting another with old firmware if still available....

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