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post Nov 30 2011, 04:27 PM

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so far no body here used einhell rotary hammer? i am thinking of getting rt-rh32. this can whack up to 3.5j. what do you all think ?
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post Dec 2 2011, 12:36 PM

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I just published another youtube clip demonstrating the rotary hammer's power. Yes, it is possible to drill into wood, but, the hole is not as clean as when drilled using proper wood bit. :


Impact Driver : Makita TD-010F
100Nm torque; 230 W

230 W vs 800 W of the HR2810 rotary hammer... But, wood is quite a touch material to drill . Compared to my previous clip, rotary hammer + 12 mm masonry bit can drill into concrete block in 4 seconds... but it took longer with wood. smile.gif


Thank you.

Note: A new addition to my DIY tools.... the Black and Decker's Workmate 225, workbench... and.... Makita GA4030 grinder..


Added on December 2, 2011, 3:19 pm
QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Nov 30 2011, 04:27 PM)
so far no body here used einhell rotary hammer? i am thinking of getting rt-rh32. this can whack up to 3.5j. what do you all think ?
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The higher impact energy (3.5J) is more suitable for demolition or bigger bit's size usage. But, it will be much bigger and heavier, (5kg and above), and of course, more EXPENSIVE. smile.gif Depends on your usage, the bigger rotary hammer may suit the purpose. Planned it carefully before buying it. smile.gif

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what about black & decker. Ace hardware got promo rm259

Hammer Drill
Item Code: KR-704-REK-13mm

Specifications:
* Power Input: 710W
* Chuck Size: 2-13mm
* Speed: 0-2800 rpm
* Impact Rate: 0-47600 bpm



Max Drill Capacity
* Wood: 20mm
* Steel: 13mm
* Masonry: 13mm

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skill 1715, CSM hardware selling rm282

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post Dec 2 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 2 2011, 04:50 PM)
what about black & decker. Ace hardware got promo rm259

Hammer Drill
Item Code: KR-704-REK-13mm

Specifications:
    * Power Input: 710W
    * Chuck Size: 2-13mm
    * Speed: 0-2800 rpm
    * Impact Rate: 0-47600 bpm



Max Drill Capacity
    * Wood: 20mm
    * Steel: 13mm
    * Masonry: 13mm

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skill 1715, CSM hardware selling rm282
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That is NOT a SDS rotary hammer. It is just a typical percusion impact drill, and performe just like any impact drill.

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post Dec 2 2011, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Dec 2 2011, 12:36 PM)
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Impact Driver : Makita TD-010F
100Nm torque; 230 W

230 W vs 800 W of the HR2810 rotary hammer... But, wood is quite a touch material to drill . Compared to my previous clip,  rotary hammer + 12 mm masonry bit can drill into concrete block in 4 seconds... but it took longer with wood. smile.gif
Thank you.

Note: A new addition to my DIY tools.... the Black and Decker's Workmate 225, workbench... and.... Makita GA4030 grinder..
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lol , your rotary drill on hammer+drill mode... sounds like a scooter.. hahah

just curious your using the normal sds bits for concrete ? to drill wood ?

care to share pic of your
1. Black and Decker's Workmate 225, workbench...
2. Makita GA4030 grinder..

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post Dec 3 2011, 09:41 AM

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It was in Rotary+Hammer mode, just what I pointed at in the clip. smile.gif Yup, it may sound like scooter, because, rotary hammer uses piston to compress air and push the 'striker' to push the drill bit. In other word, it works similar to typical 2 or 4 stroke engine. smile.gif Since I drilled into wood, the metal to metal (striker - bit) collision's sound; the 'kaching, kaching' sound is lesser compared to when drilling into concrete, because striker hits the bit much softer and being absorbed by the wood's fiber.

Here is a diagram of L shaped rotary hammer. In this case, Makita HR4000C. Look at the piston and cylinder and how similar to typical engine.
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Here is my new 'family' picture. smile.gif

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post Dec 4 2011, 11:29 AM

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Just found another rotary hammer's review. The model in this clip is Makita HR2811F, which is same as HR2810, but with shock absover and worklight LED. Unfortunately,this model is not available in Malaysia. Yeah, the few extra features also make it more expensive and not competitive in our market. I realized that the rotary hammer looks 'SMALL' in western people's hand. smile.gif



Here we can see how the rotary hmmer with 'hammer only' mode being used for demolition and even 8 year's old kid also can handle it... smile.gif mmm... I am thinking to train my 10 and 11 years old sons to do the drilling for me smile.gif heh eh he.


Here is another review for Bosch RH328VC which is one of the GBH3-28 series.




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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 21 2011, 02:30 PM)
Pay so much more just for the sake of dust free? well it won't be dust free, it still have 15 to 20% dust falling out.
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The only thing stopping me from drilling more is the cleaning up. While looking for vacuum cleaner, found this ..

http://www.karcher.com.my/my/Products/Home...er/16791000.htm
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 18 2011, 03:12 PM)
Know that shop, from outside very run down. Don't stock much drill bits. They do have many new and old power tools.  Is same row of the Aquarium fish shop.
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Yes bro. I know which shop you are talking abt. Was there during weekend. They are selling HR2470 for RM550. Warranty half year only.
Reason they don't stock is because they mostly do repairs/servicing.

But I want to know if it will do the job (drill holes on concrete). Any owners of 2470 can advise?

Thanks.

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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 5 2011, 11:15 AM)
The only thing stopping me from drilling more is the cleaning up. While looking for vacuum cleaner, found this ..

http://www.karcher.com.my/my/Products/Home...er/16791000.htm
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hmm where got sell in malaysia hope it dont cost more than 200 smile.gif

QUOTE(kikikatkat @ Dec 5 2011, 11:46 PM)
But I want to know if it will do the job (drill holes on concrete). Any owners of 2470 can advise?
Thanks.
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hell yeah it sure can... how big of a hole u looking at ?
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Dec 5 2011, 11:15 AM)
The only thing stopping me from drilling more is the cleaning up. While looking for vacuum cleaner, found this ..

http://www.karcher.com.my/my/Products/Home...er/16791000.htm
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Use envelope lah, or a small box. served the same purpose and much better if you get a bigger box.


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QUOTE(kikikatkat @ Dec 5 2011, 11:46 PM)
Yes bro. I know which shop you are talking abt. Was there during weekend. They are selling HR2470 for RM550. Warranty half year only.
Reason they don't stock is because they mostly do repairs/servicing.

But I want to know if it will do the job (drill holes on concrete). Any owners of 2470 can advise?

Thanks.
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2470, Hehe, biggrin.gif I just hack a 3" x 3" holes, drill some holes on the concrete floor. Tear down 1/2 my kitchen concrete top. So you think can do or not?

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 6 2011, 09:11 AM)

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2470, Hehe, biggrin.gif I just hack a 3" x 3" holes, drill some holes on the concrete floor. Tear down 1/2 my kitchen concrete top. So you think can do or not?
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:31 AM

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Wow, 1/2 of the kicthen's top... Wow... it seem that you are HATED it a lot. smile.gif he heh eh ... Glad the rotary hammer suit the purpose to channel your 'anger' to a good purpose. smile.gif heh eh he e...

Yes, HR2470 or any 'big' professional grade rotary hammer. is very capable to bring concrete house down to dust!!. Use the it's 'power' wisely for peace and harmony.

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Maybe 1/2 is to exaggerate, about 1/3 more like it. My contractor plaster wrong, using normal cement. And only use the dye on the final surface. He should mix it with the dye i brought when plaster. So i tear down the plastering. But guess it just too easy, i took down part of the concrete too leaving the rebar smile.gif

I learn tearing down portion of concrete also need some skill and art. Better drill the area you don't want, than rotary it down. Is much easier and cleaner.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 6 2011, 11:57 AM)

I learn tearing down portion of concrete also need some skill and art. Better drill the area you don't want, than rotary it down. Is much easier and cleaner.

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Great tip. Thank you. The holes make the concrete weaker and you also have the points where you can start the chiselling/demotion.

Waa.. your contractor seem to be had a hard time, working with the rotary hammer's owner like you. smile.gif heh eh he he... Now, you can show them who is the MASTER. smile.gif

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If i move another house, think i will have most of the tools to build new house biggrin.gif


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ha hah ah ah .. smile.gif ... By that time, most probably you are already listed in home renovation contractor association's BLACKLIST... smile.gif

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Dec 6 2011, 02:00 AM)
hmm where got sell in malaysia hope it dont cost more than 200 smile.gif
hell yeah it sure can... how big of a hole u looking at ?
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Max abt 10mm diameter? I want to drill 6-8 mm only.
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QUOTE(kikikatkat @ Dec 7 2011, 01:39 PM)
Max abt 10mm diameter? I want to drill 6-8 mm only.
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ah yo 10mm only ah...

the makita 2470 can sap sap sui settle it la...

it can support up to 24mm smile.gif

u should check out google for more info or a few pages back... the spec of 2470 has been shared/discuss before..

http://www.makita.com/en-us/Assets/Output/...4A947_79193.pdf
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Yup... HR2470 drills 10mm into concrete just like child play, or like cutting butter with hot knife.. If you buy HR2470, most probably you will also get Makita brand 5 pieces masonry drill bits. 6, 6.5, 8, 10 and 12 mm.

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