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darklight79
post Oct 11 2011, 09:06 AM

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Heavy pulldowns does not equal good strength in pullups. Explain to me why I càn do more than 265lbs of pulldowns without cheating but could barely do 5 be pullups?

Practice practice practice or negatives will help like some good people here suggested. Ive been doing consistent chinups past 4 weeks and now pulling bw +135 tied to belt x 3to . pullups chinups are a skill and to get better at.it.you keep doing.it and not till failure all the time.
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post Oct 11 2011, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Oct 11 2011, 12:28 AM)
chinups can do around 5 - 8 reps
but pullup not even 1 rep...
thought of doing more pulldowns...
but after seeing this thread i had change to daily negative pullups
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its all in your mind... think that u want to get your chest up... Lead with your chest up & keep your shoulders back.
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post Oct 11 2011, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Oct 11 2011, 09:20 AM)
its all in your mind... think that u want to get your chest up... Lead with your chest up & keep your shoulders back.
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Partially correct but incomplete. He's gotta keep doing it, practicing it.
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post Oct 11 2011, 09:59 AM

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hopefully can achieve it within a month...
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post Dec 20 2011, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Dec 20 2011, 12:36 AM)
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you still struggling with it?

I started both chinups and pull ups with negatives, but switched to the machine having the pad on your legs. I used to try the negatives, but i could never do much, 1-3 at most.

Then I saw people doing the machines, so I gave it a shot. Sure it does easily with heavy weights stacked on, but I gradually reduce it. The other good thing about that machine is it trained my back to support the whole session instead of my arms. It gave me tremendous sore throughout the week when I used it, compared to negatives. Eventually I tried without the leg support a few weeks later and I'm good to go.

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post Dec 20 2011, 02:38 AM

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never give up....
i cant do pullups for even once previously...
nw one rep d...
hope can hit 5 reps by end of the year...
try assisted pullups,
it helps me
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post Dec 20 2011, 06:44 AM

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Chin ups are a cakewalk once you keep practicing it.
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post Dec 20 2011, 02:03 PM

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try doing a horizontal pull up. Refer the image

http://www.zigzag.co.za/wpmu/files/2010/11/Picture-7.jpg
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 20 2011, 06:44 AM)
Chin ups are a cakewalk once you keep practicing it.
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agreed. few months back i couldn't even lift myself an inch. now i can pull x3 all day long..
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post Dec 20 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 20 2011, 03:03 PM)
try doing a horizontal pull up. Refer the image

http://www.zigzag.co.za/wpmu/files/2010/11/Picture-7.jpg
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tats really good too....
i guess..
but b4 i am able to do pullup, i cant even do this
once i can do this, i can do pullup...
weird but true
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QUOTE(ChinHong86 @ Dec 20 2011, 10:22 PM)
tats really good too....
i guess..
but b4 i am able to do pullup, i cant even do this
once i can do this, i can do pullup...
weird but true
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For TS, if you still cannot do near horizontal pullup, increase your inclination. You can even stand up and pull yourself horizontally towards the bar.
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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Dec 20 2011, 12:13 AM)
you still struggling with it?

I started both chinups and pull ups with negatives, but switched to the machine having the pad on your legs. I used to try the negatives, but i could never do much, 1-3 at most.

Then I saw people doing the machines, so I gave it a shot. Sure it does easily with heavy weights stacked on, but I gradually reduce it. The other good thing about that machine is it trained my back to support the whole session instead of my arms. It gave me tremendous sore throughout the week when I used it, compared to negatives. Eventually I tried without the leg support a few weeks later and I'm good to go.

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I'll try this out for pull ups.

I can do a up to 3 chin ups no issue , but pull ups seem to strain my shoulder even 2/3rd's up.
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(potemkin @ Dec 21 2011, 11:24 AM)
I'll try this out for pull ups.

I can do a up to 3 chin ups no issue , but pull ups seem to strain my shoulder even 2/3rd's up.
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How wide apart are your grip? I have shoulder issues as well if I do them too wide. Pull ups are shoulder width or slightly wider apart for me
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i read somewhere that it's unnecessary to use a wide grip. a close grip would have been preferable.
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post Dec 21 2011, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(inv @ Dec 21 2011, 04:31 PM)
i read somewhere that it's unnecessary to use a wide grip. a close grip would have been preferable.
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You get more muscle fiber activation with close grip. But i also like adding in wide grip to my routine.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 21 2011, 11:33 AM)
How wide apart are your grip? I have shoulder issues as well if I do them too wide. Pull ups are shoulder width or slightly wider apart for me
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Wonder how i can set up a pic for this..hmmm

BTW You were training at FF before right ? I'm using the pullup machine so i hold on to the straight handle before it slopes down



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post Dec 21 2011, 07:30 PM

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I think if someone of you still can't do a chin up, you need an adrenaline surge. Get to the top of a 20 storey building, hang from a bar with the ground below you and pull up. It'll provoke a do or die situation.

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post Dec 21 2011, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 21 2011, 07:30 PM)
I think if someone of you still can't do a chin up, you need an adrenaline surge. Get to the top of a 20 storey building, hang from a bar with the ground below you and pull up. It'll provoke a do or die situation.

Sometimes I amaze myself with my genius.
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post Dec 21 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Dec 21 2011, 07:50 PM)
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Why? You'd be surprise how strong the sense of self preservation is when it comes to a situation like this.

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