This is totally spinning and misleading! I'm in power generation industry. The biggest loser fuel price is Petronas. Petronas has to sell fuel to TNB/IPP and super cheap fixed price. The electricity price we are paying now is artificial.

3kW generation to supply resident 1kW usage. The one who tell you..... I cannot find a suitable word to describe the guy.
Transmission and distribution has efficiency more than 90% If 3kW generate from power plant and supply to grid, the consumer can receive 2.8++kW.
TNB did well in transmission and distribution.

RE FIT rate is paid by 1% surcharge on our electricity bill. TNB collect the 1% surcharge and pay to RE FIT installer. SEDA is monitoring all these. TNB is buying electricity less than RM0.20/kWh from TNB and IPP power plant. This price is artificial bcoz fuel price is subsidized by Petronas.

Here about the power lost. -> http://www.solarvoltaic.com/ Under " So why do we have AC 240V if everything is DC? "

I thaught the main is gas, 2nd is coal and 3rd is hydro? And coming is nuclear energy which decide by 2014.

Yup, the elctricity price here is artificial, 1 of the reason why we don't need RE at the moment.

'So why do we have AC 240V if everything is DC?' is nonsense.
Msia transmit electricity in High Voltage AC (275kW etc) and when reach near to user end, the voltage will reduced by transformer till 415V.
The 300% loss is misleading but I believe they are taking energy efficiency from fuel to user end. Power plant has efficiency from 35-55% (latest tech has higher efficiency) If included the loss in transmission and distribution, from fuel to user end energy efficiency is 30-50%

Thanks for correcting that stupid website. But you need to comeout some link or reading for us to read and believe. We don't no about power generation.

So are you decide to go ahead with the Fit? Does the ROI look good to you after some mis calculation?

the ROI with income tax and write off is really low. however ,income tax is depends on your total income. Maybe ask retired father to apply. for write off, i take it as buying a car. We can dump 100k for Japanese car yet no income, why not go for FIT

well i dont know about you but for me FiT only can be considered as an alternative investment. i think i'd rather put the money in my EPF then. income not taxed and after 20 years i have my profits AND the money i put in.

of course you can always say its better than buying a car (and it probably is) but i am not that green i am afraid.

as for the income tax idea that is not a stupid idea - but i was under impression the person applying has to be the owner of the house isnt it?

for our case the income tax is even higher so it leaches off the profits so much that under a fully financed case i end up loosing money. the government really should make income from FiT tax free instead of having the agencies boost unfounded ROIs around that dont consider either running costs, write offs and income tax.

if you register under a company you can write off the installation and all the maintenance probably too right (i dont run a company so its an assumption) and then pay tax on the profits - that's fine.

for personal there is no such write off and yet have to pay tax on the FULL amount. this just means they really dont want private parties to install the PV systems. that's OK I just wish they'd be honest about it so nobody gets their hopes up that they are given a good investment opportunity there.

well i am afraid PV is still a no go for me then. just not worth the expenditure

The house property need to be your name if you apply for Fit.

I wish you can go ahead with the Fit even the ROI is not so convincing for your earning sense. Combine other like your interest, RE and CO2, guess contribute abit is not that difficult.

Let us know your progress, experience go through all the progress, some picture and the data. At least we have some first hand story about this so new Fit thing.

I just submitted doc for installer. they finished the engineering design. now waiting SEDA open up application.
Installer advise to act fast, any doc submission need within this week. once SEDA application open, it may be too late

Not neccessary. Apply the quota first if everything haven't done. The installer will help you with the online form. The quota have grace period of many mth. So slow slow no problem. This is told by installer.

Another important thing is don't forget to register reppa with seda.

ozak, u registered in SEDA?
now the efit is alive.

Don't see any eFit in the website. Not on 24th?

go to Seda website, right top corner, click login.
you will find yourself in efit. you can register.
installer may do for you

Thanks. already register. But the website is blank when go in. Nothing there. Maybe overload.

Wait till next week. then, we know.
How many kW you want to install? DIY?

Actually I prefer wait and see. Just register first. Wait for next yrs and see. The cost of installation is still high. I would like to DIY if the installer can help me with the document side. Which I hate to do it.

Bcoz of the regulations, you must have certified person to do all doc jobs. So, I think you can apply quota in 2013 or 2014. You wait the price comes down.
Anyway, the few big solar panel companies in difficult financial position now. If they bankrupt and supply reduced, price may goes up.

There is possible 2 situation for price up or price down. Remember even if the price material is down, the labour and logistic will up yrs by yrs. So probably the price will be no different or even up.

If the PV market become popular here, the competitor hit up. Hence, the price will drop. But possible crap material to cut cost.

Why the seda Fit rate lower by yrs? Possible because of price drop for installation they forecast?

Suprising, even some going bankrupt but the demanding is still high. The bankrupt is cause of price compete. And not because of low demand. The good example is, local PV maufacturing. You can't even buy 1 from them.

Why Seda FiT rate drop? FiT is to help renewable energy break into energy market. When initial cost is high, no one like to invest. So, FiT rate gives high price and encourage renewable energy to grow but this is not sustainable. When the renewable energy technology is abundant and mature, price will comes down and finally will on par with fossil fuel technology. When renewable energy cost is close to fossil fuel, FiT rate no more needed. This is called grid parity.

Pricing wise. It is balance of supply and demand. Low demand sure will drive manufacturer reduce price. Manufacturer must sell panels to survive.
Msia panel manufacturer never target local market. Msia give good investment conditions panel manufacturer.

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Added on September 27, 2012, 8:32 amI've filed in my application on 24 Sept (Mon)
Now, I'm waiting for Seda verification.
Hope will approve soon. I'm expecting generating power by Dec.

This post has been edited by avereng: Sep 27 2012, 08:32 AM

Is there any useful info for installing solar panel?
I'm looking into the Seda program.

Shouldn't be any problem. Good luck to you.