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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V99, Don't miss out buying time

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DarkNite
post Oct 3 2011, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Oct 3 2011, 11:54 AM)
After budget, double the red tongue.gif
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I also think so. Budget is 'lu tolong gua, gua tolong lu' manyak deficit..heading the same path as Greece.
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 3 2011, 12:18 PM)
what's the great interest in GPRO?.. hmm.gif
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im curious as well, it's been a while already
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(bennike129 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:24 PM)
im curious as well, it's been a while already
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yeah...was afraid tat it would suffer the same fate as ASIAEP..last week so bullish..,today dunno where at all.. hmm.gif

so am looking for some ground to decide whether this counter worth going into onot.. hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Oct 3 2011, 12:15 PM)
We are already on deficit. With cuts sure come other increases, no? if not revenue will keep dropping and we will end up like another greece but who will bail us?

Hike salary of civil servants with a bloated workforce in them. *Shudder*
0354 GMT [Dow Jones] OSK Research says it has no major expectations from Malaysia 2012 budget due Friday, "except that it will probably be people friendly and include no further tightening of regulations with regards to the property sector which should be positive for property stocks." It also says it expects no hike in brewery tax which will be positive for Carlsberg Brewery Malaysia (2836.KU) and Guinness Anchor (3255.KU). The house expects a 4.5%-6.8% hike in tobacco excise duties which will be mildly negative for British American Tobacco Malaysia (4162.KU) and JT International (2615.KU). OSK Research adds that there is also a possibility of a hike in civil servants salary, which will be positive for Malaysia Building Society (1171.KU). (ankur.relia@dowjones.com)
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priority is GE13.... deficit is secondary... another term means another 4 years to *ahem* tackle deficit.. rolleyes.gif
maybe they follow US... reduce tax to stimulate economy.. laugh.gif good luck on that~
i doubt they will implement m'sia version of "buffet tax" also..
US can print and stay strong.. if we print.. we'll become zimbabwe..
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aiyoh.. Jcorp will issue 2.5b bonds to refinance debt..
my hope on Jcorp pvt kulim or selling asset is shattered... sleep.gif

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post Oct 3 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 3 2011, 12:29 PM)
priority is GE13.... deficit is secondary... another term means another 4 years to *ahem* tackle deficit..  rolleyes.gif
maybe they follow US... reduce tax to stimulate economy.. laugh.gif good luck on that~
i doubt they will implement m'sia version of "buffet tax" also..
US can print and stay strong.. if we print.. we'll become zimbabwe..
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Expenditure definitely have to cut down. Look at the actual and budget figure, almost most of the expenditure exceed its budget doh.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:42 PM

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post Oct 3 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 12:05 PM)
No nid lar.

Just goreng a 1 cent stock to 2 cents, already 100% return smile.gif
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Hi bro Bone..........

Any market battle plans for today???

Cheersss..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:52 PM

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genting break 9 already... should wait further? hmm.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:04 PM

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 3 2011, 12:18 PM)
what's the great interest in GPRO?.. hmm.gif
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It is finished - For the time being smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(pear1000 @ Oct 3 2011, 01:04 PM)
HSI gonna -1000 today biggrin.gif
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gee.... sweat.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:13 PM

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Oct 3 2011, 12:29 PM)
priority is GE13.... deficit is secondary... another term means another 4 years to *ahem* tackle deficit..  rolleyes.gif
maybe they follow US... reduce tax to stimulate economy.. laugh.gif good luck on that~
i doubt they will implement m'sia version of "buffet tax" also..
US can print and stay strong.. if we print.. we'll become zimbabwe..
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aiyoh.. Jcorp will issue 2.5b bonds to refinance debt..
my hope on Jcorp pvt kulim or selling asset is shattered... sleep.gif
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Next stop ZIMBABWE!
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:14 PM

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 3 2011, 01:14 PM)
Next stop ZIMBABWE!
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I am feeling rich already.. like hell note biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(flamestudio @ Oct 3 2011, 12:46 PM)
Hi bro Bone..........

Any market battle plans for today???

Cheersss.....  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yea..
Do u know resting is one of crucial component in a battle plan?

In a war, sometimes we need to :-

Attack in a guerrilla method - Nimble stage by stage, average down, or average up as long as plan is intact.
Attack in force - Good amount of firing. Heavy armed, fire more than normal.
Attack in full force - All out firing method. Leverage on all financial tools available to capture the best profits. Loans, mortgage, margin, warrants.

Retreat - Putting a stop loss, cutting loss first before letting damage eating deeper. Cut loss doesn't mean lose already. It is lose first, plan again to win later.

Rest - Do nothing, watch and analyze and wait for the golden opportunity. It is stupid to go out a field where bullets are flying all around. You will only get yourself shot in a bad manner. Golden opportunity comes when one side is reloading, rearming. Rest doesn't means sleep.. But get ready to catch any opportunity when it strikes. Be on guard.


My current mode -> Rest mode.

On guard, analyzing enemy movement and pace. Once opportunity comes, seize it and make a fast counter attack before hiding back when enemy comes back for another round of firing.



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post Oct 3 2011, 01:23 PM

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 01:19 PM)
Yea..
Do u know resting is one of crucial component in a battle plan?

In a war, sometimes we need to :-

Attack in a guerrilla method - Nimble stage by stage, average down, or average up as long as plan is intact.
Attack in force - Good amount of firing. Heavy armed, fire more than normal.
Attack in full force - All out firing method. Leverage on all financial tools available to capture the best profits. Loans, mortgage, margin, warrants.

Retreat - Putting a stop loss, cutting loss first before letting damage eating deeper. Cut loss doesn't mean lose already. It is lose first, plan again to win later.

Rest - Do nothing, watch and analyze and wait for the golden opportunity. It is stupid to go out a field where bullets are flying all around. You will only get yourself shot in a bad manner. Golden opportunity comes when one side is reloading, rearming. Rest doesn't means sleep.. But get ready to catch any opportunity when it strikes. Be on guard.


My current mode -> Rest mode.

On guard, analyzing enemy movement and pace. Once opportunity comes, seize it and make a fast counter attack before hiding back when enemy comes back for another round of firing.
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A short paragraph from Jesse Livermore book.

That led him to his second conclusion, that no one could or should trade the market all the time. There were times when a trader should be out of the market, in cash, waiting.

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(simonc @ Oct 3 2011, 01:27 PM)
A short paragraph from Jesse Livermore book.

That led him to his second conclusion, that no one could or should trade the market all the time. There were times when a trader should be out of the market, in cash, waiting.

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Exception for those Futures player lar.. smile.gif Up down left right, they are making money.

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:41 PM

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Well, another example here. Derived from Sun Tzu Art of War.

In a war, there are at least 2 teams..

Here in shares, the 2 teams of people are:-
1.) Bull Team
2.) Bear Team

In Bull Team, you will separate them to 3 categories
1.) Bull
2.) Bull-er
3.) Bull-iest

Vice Versa for Bear Team: Bear, Bear-er, Bear-iest

On a 1000 thousand people basis for reach different categories.. The bull can win the game if

1.) 1000 Bull-er vs 1000 Bear - Bull win
2.) 1000 Bull-iest vs 1000 Bear-er - Bull win
3.) 1000 Bull vs 1000 Bear-iest - Bear win


Over all, bull win bear 2-1.

Bull win.


The situation here is, each categories of bull does not have enough fighter, as a lot of mega bull fighter had went to rest, while some switch camp and join the bear camp.

Even though you are the best bull-iest fighter, going out without the numbers supporting you.. Will end up in a dead meat.

Based on this simple analysis - Best is to do nothing and wait until bear camp does not have people anymore (probably due to technical, so they jump camp and join the bull camp), and that is where opportunity comes..

Now bear camp is full of people.. Not enough to put everyone in. It is like:-

100 fighter for each bull category, while bear have 3000 fighter for each bear category.. No matter how you arrange the team, bull lose gao gao

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