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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V99, Don't miss out buying time

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 01:41 PM)
Well, another example here. Derived from Sun Tzu Art of War.

In a war, there are at least 2 teams..

Here in shares, the 2 teams of people are:-
1.) Bull Team
2.) Bear Team

In Bull Team, you will separate them to 3 categories
1.) Bull
2.) Bull-er
3.) Bull-iest

Vice Versa for Bear Team: Bear, Bear-er, Bear-iest

On a 1000 thousand people basis for reach different categories.. The bull can win the game if

1.) 1000 Bull-er vs 1000 Bear - Bull win
2.) 1000 Bull-iest vs 1000 Bear-er - Bull win
3.) 1000 Bull vs 1000 Bear-iest - Bear win
Over all, bull win bear 2-1.

Bull win.
The situation here is, each categories of bull does not have enough fighter, as a lot of mega bull fighter had went to rest, while some switch camp and join the bear camp.

Even though you are the best bull-iest fighter, going out without the numbers supporting you.. Will end up in a dead meat.

Based on this simple analysis - Best is to do nothing and wait until bear camp does not have people anymore (probably due to technical, so they jump camp and join the bull camp), and that is where opportunity comes..

Now bear camp is full of people.. Not enough to put everyone in. It is like:-

100 fighter for each bull category, while bear have 3000 fighter for each bear category.. No matter how you arrange the team, bull lose gao gao
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In short conclusion, Stock Market is having herd mentality. You have to follow the herd or die.

EDITED : Oh this also concur with my OSK sifu advice. Cut loss after 10%. Ride the winning trend. Don't catch the falling knife.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Oct 3 2011, 01:45 PM
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 01:19 PM)
Yea..
Do u know resting is one of crucial component in a battle plan?

In a war, sometimes we need to :-

Attack in a guerrilla method - Nimble stage by stage, average down, or average up as long as plan is intact.
Attack in force - Good amount of firing. Heavy armed, fire more than normal.
Attack in full force - All out firing method. Leverage on all financial tools available to capture the best profits. Loans, mortgage, margin, warrants.

Retreat - Putting a stop loss, cutting loss first before letting damage eating deeper. Cut loss doesn't mean lose already. It is lose first, plan again to win later.

Rest - Do nothing, watch and analyze and wait for the golden opportunity. It is stupid to go out a field where bullets are flying all around. You will only get yourself shot in a bad manner. Golden opportunity comes when one side is reloading, rearming. Rest doesn't means sleep.. But get ready to catch any opportunity when it strikes. Be on guard.


My current mode -> Rest mode.

On guard, analyzing enemy movement and pace. Once opportunity comes, seize it and make a fast counter attack before hiding back when enemy comes back for another round of firing.
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Fuyoh.....

Kow kow great tips....

Already copied it....

Thanks bro Bone....Cheers..... icon_rolleyes.gif .
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:48 PM

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some questions here..

why do they want to join the bear team while bear lead them to holand?

it's just to cutting lost ? it's just because of fear?

what does bull waiting for ? more news? unsure.gif


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post Oct 3 2011, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 3 2011, 01:48 PM)
hmm.gif

some questions here..

why do they want to join the bear team while bear lead them to holand?

it's just to cutting lost ? it's just because of fear?

what does bull waiting for ? more news?  unsure.gif
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herd mentality mah. So its fear lor.
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post Oct 3 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 3 2011, 01:44 PM)
In short conclusion, Stock Market is having herd mentality. You have to follow the herd or die.

EDITED : Oh this also concur with my OSK sifu advice. Cut loss after 10%. Ride the winning trend. Don't catch the falling knife.
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He gave u an overall view, but didn't go into details on which is the right camp.

Yes, you might keep away from the season.. But when it is a bull game, are you sure you will join the right category of bull?

3 to choose. Bull, Bull-er, Bulliest..

If you join Bull-er and Bull-iest, then more than 70% will win.
If you join Bull team only, probably not so convincing.. Around 50-50 win, or lesser..

So identifying them is the hard part here

This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Oct 3 2011, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 01:08 PM)
It is finished - For the time being smile.gif
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meaning its the end of the rally for GPRO?
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 3 2011, 01:48 PM)
hmm.gif

some questions here..

why do they want to join the bear team while bear lead them to holand?

it's just to cutting lost ? it's just because of fear?

what does bull waiting for ? more news?  unsure.gif
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They join bear team by showing supports to the bear action
Bear action includes:-
1.) Throw and reduce
2.) Totally out and cut loss
3.) No queue to buy, don't support the price at the moment.
4.) Wait for it to plunge, and continue waiting.. Not putting queue to support even though drop like crap.
5.) Short the Futures.
6.) Do nothing and wait..


Added on October 3, 2011, 2:03 pm
QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 3 2011, 01:57 PM)
meaning its the end of the rally for GPRO?
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Yea.. Already fulfilled met all goals and target (For me lar)

First is 0.14 - Met
Then 0.14 to 0.16 - Met

Job finished for now.. Now wait for it to restructure. After that, then only come again.. smile.gif

Same like Flonic, once finish.. Then done.. Go in and play again too fast, nanti get charcoal-ed

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post Oct 3 2011, 02:06 PM

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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-greek...port-2011-10-02

Culprit of today's massive bloodshed biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 01:57 PM)
He gave u an overall view, but didn't go into details on which is the right camp.

Yes, you might keep away from the season.. But when it is a bull game, are you sure you will join the right category of bull?

3 to choose. Bull, Bull-er, Bulliest..

If you join Bull-er and Bull-iest, then more than 70% will win.
If you join Bull team only, probably not so convincing.. Around 50-50 win, or lesser..

So identifying them is the hard part here
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Yalor. either I'm still a noob or how. I dun remember if he ever said how to identify uptrend. icon_question.gif so if bulliest come also I dunno. Haha

So I have to depend on you BONEs.. if u said BUlliest come liao, then I sailang liao icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:11 PM)
Yalor. either I'm still a noob or how. I dun remember if he ever said how to identify uptrend.  icon_question.gif so if bulliest come also I dunno. Haha

So I have to depend on myself.. if u said BUlliest come liao, then I research first only go in  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ok, corrected
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 02:13 PM)
Ok, corrected
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 02:13 PM)
Ok, corrected
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 3 2011, 02:00 PM)
They join bear team by showing supports to the bear action
Bear action includes:-
1.) Throw and reduce
2.) Totally out and cut loss
3.) No queue to buy, don't support the price at the moment.
4.) Wait for it to plunge, and continue waiting.. Not putting queue to support even though drop like crap.
5.) Short the Futures.
6.) Do nothing and wait..


Added on October 3, 2011, 2:03 pm

Yea.. Already fulfilled met all goals and target (For me lar)

First is 0.14 - Met
Then 0.14 to 0.16 - Met

Job finished for now.. Now wait for it to restructure. After that, then only come again.. smile.gif

Same like Flonic, once finish.. Then done.. Go in and play again too fast, nanti get charcoal-ed
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what caused the bullish?..yea..kinda cold nowadays flonic... sad.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:11 PM)
Yalor. either I'm still a noob or how. I dun remember if he ever said how to identify uptrend.  icon_question.gif so if bulliest come also I dunno. Haha

So I have to depend on you BONEs.. if u said BUlliest come liao, then I sailang liao  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Don't just rely on people. Take it as a reference. When you gain profit, you'll worship and thank him.

But if it's the other way round, you'll hate him.

And money is a sensitive issue smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(bennike129 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:22 PM)
Don't just rely on people. Take it as a reference. When you gain profit, you'll worship and thank him.

But if it's the other way round, you'll hate him.

And money is a sensitive issue  smile.gif
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True. notworthy.gif

I come across this problem before and its really an experience.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:25 PM)
True.  notworthy.gif

I come across this problem before and its really an experience.
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I got some busted moment before.. And they are not really nice to look at. sad.gif Source tak cun.. Zzz
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:40 PM

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wwwuuuhhhh FLONIC looks tempting...... Need not fall into temptation....
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post Oct 3 2011, 02:42 PM

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Can eat some RICE soon rclxms.gif
What are you guys target price to collect Bernas?
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QUOTE(bkfeng89 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:42 PM)
Can eat some RICE soon rclxms.gif
What are you guys target price to collect Bernas?
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beras very tempting at 2.77 la...shud onot????? drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif gimme half a reason.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Oct 3 2011, 02:51 PM)
beras very tempting at 2.77 la...shud onot????? drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif gimme half a reason.. tongue.gif
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Ya very tempted to at least nibble drool.gif

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