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post Oct 24 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(kkwjustin @ Oct 24 2011, 02:26 PM)
I was wondering if there is going to be a replacement for D700, because i thought of buying a D700.... Advise anyone?
Of course the D700 is around the corner. The question is are you willing to pay for it when it comes out? Are you going to be needing all the features that will be on it?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 24 2011, 03:17 PM)
RM6.3k ~ RM6.5k roughly.
That's the price I got for mine.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 24 2011, 04:49 PM)
I turn D-Lighting off. D-Lighting basically tweak around with your contrast and brightness.

But then again I shoot in RAW and I doubt Adobe Camera Raw can simulate D-Lighting like CaptureNX.
Yes, if you use LR, the D-Lighting is switched off even if you set it to on when capturing.

Anyway, under CaptureNX, you cannot switch D-Lighting to on when you originally turned it off under RAW. To start with D-Lighting, you need to use any one of the levels to be able to access the D-Lighting feature. Then under CaptureNX, you can switch it off if you wish.

QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Oct 24 2011, 04:51 PM)
Speaking about CaptureNX. How many of you uses it?

I use Lightroom to tweak my photos before exporting instead.
I see that LR is very good now and has matured leaps and bounds. I would like to try and learn how to use it. Useful especially if high volume. Currently using CaptureNX. Can be a pain if you have slow PC/notebook.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 24 2011, 08:40 PM)
Thanks, but the dust won't affect on these pics one... tongue.gif Only kicks in when I'm panning on motorsport or landscaping haha~
Yes, dust only shows up on any lens if you use f/8, f/16, f/22... Doesn't show if you're stuck at f/1.4. laugh.gif

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Oct 24 2011, 08:43 PM)
sometimes not enough when I have to manipulate things like exposure and color balance.  icon_idea.gif
Can't this be already done in LR? hmm.gif

QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Oct 24 2011, 10:35 PM)
Worth to upgrade d90 to d7000 now? Or just buy used d300s?
D7000 is fine for most things. If you're shooting sports, the D300s will have an edge in ergonomics, handling and framerate.

What lenses do you currently have? You may also be better off to stick with the D90 and invest in a decent lens.

QUOTE(scotty @ Oct 25 2011, 01:32 AM)
i suspect is the contact point. happens when my cam contact with water
Water? You dive with the cam?
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QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Oct 25 2011, 01:51 PM)
Coverage Summary:

    Manufacturer Defects
    Impact Damage
    Sand/Grit Damage
    Accidental and Unintentional Abuse
    Mechanical Malfunctions
    Normal and Abnormal Wear and Tear
    2 Free CCD Cleaning for the LIfe of the Contract (not available internationally)
    1 Free Video Head Cleaning Per Year for the Life of the Contract
    The Service Contract may be purchased within 30 days of purchasing your product
    Product Replacement After 3 Consecutive Repairs for the Same Reason
    The diamond warranty will covers malfunctions due to liquid damage that were the result of an accident. All types of accidental damage, including liquid damage, will be covered at the discretion of Mack Camera.

Edit: this is the complete description of the warranty I could get

http://www.mackcam.com/servicecontracts/se...d=85&row_id=250
I think it will cover shutter failure, no?

Looks good though. Especially the part about it covering all types of accidental damage. It's like insurance for your camera ! To think about it, 3 years cover for AUD 126 is very reasonable. That's less than RM 0.40 per day !

QUOTE(b0r1nG @ Oct 25 2011, 04:31 PM)
Nope, I change the top assembly cover, rear LCD window, USB logic card, FPC

D3/D3s shutter change is only RM850+/-
What symptoms did your D2Xs make to have Nikon change all the above? I'm thinking of bringing my D2Hs in to check what is wrong with the rear LCD screen. One time got, most times nothing. Also with the battery drain problem which konked out my almost new EN-EN4a battery. cry.gif
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QUOTE(b0r1nG @ Oct 25 2011, 05:27 PM)
My D2Xs has nothing wrong with it

It is great in condition, just that the exterior has some defects and I planned to keep the camera as collection so I want to make it perfect

The only problem is USB port not working, I don't use the USB port at all but just want to make it perfect back again and the USB board should cost very cheap, only about RM50+

The workmanship for all flagship camera will be RM300 no matter what you change, if you just change the rear window, which cost RM10, you still have to pay RM310
Thanks for the info. I believe my problem on the LCD screen is just the ribbon connection... But the battery drain problem is a more serious one I think. Like you, I also like to bring my beloved camera back to full working order. Sentimental values. Now thinking whether all this exercise is worth it or not...
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QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Oct 27 2011, 12:01 AM)
This is another reply from mack warranty lol. Reply kinda different from the first one.

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Sifus, please advise if I should still go ahead with the warranty purchase? AUD 123 = +- RM388.68 for 3 years.
doh.gif Already mention this... For slightly less than RM 0.40 per day of coverage, what are you thinking some more? I think the latest reply is quite sensible. They cannot cover the cost of sensor cleaning. Like that they go broke.

I believe if you need to do any repair work, you need to send it to authorised Nikon centre in BTS or PKNS and fork out the bill first. Later on with the proper receipts, you claim from Mack.

QUOTE(honoreric @ Oct 27 2011, 09:28 AM)
Hey bro, i've been trying to get some book guide to teach me a better use of my D7000. Any recommendation?

I read from the post, someone mention about Thom Logan's series... is it possible to get it locally?
You mean the Thom Hogan's ebook? You can purchase and download the pdf file from his website. Should be highly recommended.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 27 2011, 09:33 AM)
When I tried the V1/J1 last weekend at MV, totally lost interests in it already. Definitely no good, the only mirrorless that I'm interested is the NEX series. But too bad it does not support Nikkor lens natively.
The price itself is a turn-off.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 27 2011, 12:20 PM)
hehee i know how you fell celciuz,
if i were you, i would spend the rm 3000 in getting something for my D700
Yup.

QUOTE(Irbean @ Oct 27 2011, 12:41 PM)
planning to buy Nikkor 2470mm f2.8.  Is there's any recomended shop with reasonable price as well as the after sales service?
Please advise me on this.
After sales service? sweat.gif Is buying a lens equivalent to buying a car?

I suually go back to Nikon SC directly for anything that needs servicing. I leave the shop out of the equation because they send to Nikon SC also.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 27 2011, 02:13 PM)
Pricing is just... "premium" but specs are not =/ sigh I hope the DSLR replacements don't disappoint like this.
You're already spoilt by the D700. The thing is if you had to pay 1.5k for them, I don't think you would be complaining about the specs, correct?

QUOTE(b0r1nG @ Oct 27 2011, 04:37 PM)
OK heart pain

1 time job, change all the parts for my D2Xs and with special warranty service given!
So they changed the FPC? I think that's the main bulk of the cost.

QUOTE(Irbean @ Oct 27 2011, 05:33 PM)
Sounds funny.. the best i get so far 5.7K @ Foto Selangor, but need to order and wait for 1 week. in Fotokem 5.8k ready stock, but dunno either its display set or not.

usual lepak shop? previously bought all the lens at Boeing & Foto Selangor, just wondering if there's any other shop that give good service as well as reasonable price range.
In MY where got after sales service? It's unheard of. At the end of the day, do your homework to find the best prices, make sure the place you're gonna buy has new stock and just pay.
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QUOTE(Irbean @ Oct 27 2011, 06:27 PM)
thanx bro for  the advise. previously i bought nikon lens, from 1 shop. the time i bought, the lens working just fine. then after 2 days, the focusing seems to be malfunctioning. then i send it back to the shop, and they replace with new one. This is what i refer to after sales service. if youre in my shoes, do you send the lens directly to Nikon SC?
my concern to ask in the forum probably one of my homework, to seek advise from sifu's across LYNet. In what sense do you clasified 'Homework' as? please advise on this matter.

Anyhow thank you for your favorable advise, and will keep it in mind  icon_rolleyes.gif
Don't take it the wrong way. There is always the small percentage that your camera malfunctions a few days after buying from the shop. What I mean by homework is to do some online checking on the price. I believe you did this already. From what I can tell you, the price from regular places for such a commodity item should not vary much.

My case is my D700 decided to meet it's maker in Japan while I was holidaying in Japan in 2009. That's less than one week after getting my brand spanking new D700. After arrive back home, I went to the shop I bought my unit with the receipt together with the box to return and in the hope I will get a new replacement. They rejected it and ask me to refer to PKNS. I did it and had to wait for 2 weeks before they gave me a brand new unit.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 27 2011, 06:59 PM)
if i going for compact, my next aim is the olympus zx-1 or fuji x10.
XZ-1 boss. brows.gif

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 27 2011, 06:59 PM)
imo, getting nex defeats the purpose of compact since the lens is big anyway...must as well just carry ur dslr around or buy a d3100 tongue.gif
Yeah, I've been mentioning this all along... Even after all that, quality still falls short of the real DSLR.

QUOTE(seather @ Oct 27 2011, 07:36 PM)
i think i got my price mixed up wif the D700 sweat.gif ... u have a good price there smile.gif

i build up relationship wif one shop... coz the sifu there can give me free advice n pointers... n i get a chance to play wif the equipment on display often tongue.gif
Been there, done that. sad.gif Problem is I don't buy enough for that shop owner to remember my face. Or perhaps he remembers but pretends he does not in order that he has no obligation to treat me properly.

For free advise and pointers, I rather head to the internet and forums like this.

QUOTE(b0r1nG @ Oct 27 2011, 08:10 PM)
FPC is cheap, around RM100 only

But I overhauled the whole camera! Changed everything that is possible to be changed. LOL

But I have 1 more year warranty biggrin.gif
Nice. What's the damage to the pocket at the end of the day?

QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 27 2011, 09:44 PM)
still have yet to try the olympus zx-1, but it doesnt offer as much control...so yea guess wait for x10 to come out here tongue.gif
As with all compacts, don't hope for excellent high ISO noise control on the XZ-1. That and the video is the only downside of the XZ-1. But the f/1.8 Zuiko lens (up to f/2.5 at 112mm) is to die for. Edge sharpness excellent even at wide open. Focusing is plenty fast too. Got it because of those features.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 1 2011, 08:32 AM)
Even if D5100 supports the new Extreme Pro, is it capable of writing/reading at 45MB/s?

I mean, take USB3.0 for example. Not all USB 3.0 devices are able to reach the maximum speed. Some not even able to use even half of the bandwidth.
Half of USB 3 speed is already super. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Nov 1 2011, 12:33 PM)
Ok. Confirm. Its yamiya wrong pricing. They just void my purchase. No appology also. Z


Added on November 1, 2011, 12:35 pmOk. Another email. Appologize for wrong pricing. That price suppose to be class 10 16gb 30mb


Added on November 1, 2011, 12:37 pmI thought really promo tim...  K, anyone can refer me for sandisk class 10 16 gb 30mb or 8 gb also ok, any with good price?
Actually, if they consider themselves reputable, they should honour the price. This is what we often do not see with Malaysian online shops unfortunately.

QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Nov 2 2011, 10:13 AM)
Hmm, anyone know a good Nikon macro lens? I can't seem to find one.
What are you using it for?

In addition to what ifer has suggested, best of the best would be the AF-D 200mm f/4 micro if you want long working distance for dangerous subjects or when going close to the subject is not possible. Else if you can find the zoom Nikkor micro lens AF 70-180mm f/4.5-5.6 D ED (discontinued), it's also fantastic and the world's first and only zoom type macro lens.

If you're on DX, Nikon has the AF-S 45mm f/2.8 and AF-S 85mm f/3.5.

If you want 3rd party, I heard the Sigma 150mm f/2.8 is also excellent.
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Nov 2 2011, 01:10 PM)
Hmm, never try 60mm before but the 105mm not to my liking. How's the 60mm perform? smile.gif
The 60mm and the 105mm Nikkor is one of Nikon's best lenses.

QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Nov 2 2011, 01:10 PM)
Nature mostly. Very close up insects and plants of possible. I heard about the 70-180mm before but thought of a prime lens. Might take a look at it next time.
You need to check your working distance. Long working distance require longer lenses.

QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Nov 2 2011, 01:10 PM)
I also got a few recommends of sigma lens too but call me a fanboi, wanna stick with Nikon. tongue.gif
How's the 200mm AF-D ? Is it sharp ? Not interest in DX lens.
Unfortunately, when it comes to budget, you would probably be forced to go with Sigma... Nikon fanboy or not...

Anyway, the Nikkor 200mm f/4 micro is THE best macro lens out there bar none. There's no equivalent from other brands when it comes to macro lens.

Else, do like what a lot of people do. Use TC or extension tubes on your tele lens to get you closer to your subject so that it get's magnified = pseudo macro lens. I sometimes use my AF-S 300mm f/4 with a Canon 500D screw on diopter to shoot things like butterflies or dragonflies. I also use the 500D diopter with my AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 zoom for some flexibility. It does not give you real 1:1 macro but close enough.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 2 2011, 05:57 PM)
AFAIK, for 3rd party around 100mm range, most people go for Tamron version.

I'd still prefer the Nikon over these 3rd party:
1. Internal Focus; means it doesn't extend during focusing (for macro lens, it extends out very long...)
2. VR (may not be important for macro and using manual focus, but if you use for portrait as well, you'lll appreciate this)
3. Fast focusing speed and probably more accurate (may not be important for macro and using manual focus, but if you use for portrait as well, you'lll appreciate this)
4. Nano coating
5. Excellent built quality
6. Nice and creamy bokeh.

Downside:
Focus-Breathing; it's the downside for using Internal Focus (IF).

The price maybe difference by almost 2 times 3rd party (e.g. Tamron), but what you get is much much more; unlike the 17-50mm f/2.8mm range.
I may agree a bit on the first part with the Nikon 105mm f/2.8 VR even though I find that people owning the 105mm f/2.8 VR would usually shoot potraiture with that lens in studio or private one on one where fast focusing does not really matter. Where fast focusing is required, they take out the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR to do the job.

But comparing the Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8 output quality alone, nothing 3rd party out there even comes close. Whereas if you're using Tamron 90mm f/2.8 macro lens, you'd be hard pressed to differentiate a picture taken with it and a Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 VR. That's how good the Tamron macro is.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Nov 3 2011, 06:19 PM)
18-55 kit lens got la.
ya thinking what to get ....
mostly shoot hobby stuff or i bring my camera in travel or some party candid shot :s

and 24mm f/1.4 do sounds nice but sometimes in wedding candid shot is not good...
and f/1.4 DOF i scare is too thin ...
For the things that you want to do, get the 35mm f/1.4. The 24mm f/1.4 perhaps is a little wide if you want to do closeup shots. Plus the 35mm f/1.4 is cheaper than the 24mm f/1.4 and the 24-70mm f/2.8.

Oh but wait... You already have 35mm f/1.8 right? That should be enough.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Nov 3 2011, 09:50 PM)
is 24-70mm is metal built while 24mm f/1.4 is plastic?
Both lenses same material. Plastic + metal.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 3 2011, 08:12 PM)
24mm... i rather go for 35mm... tongue.gif sharper!
I think it's the other way around (24mm sharper than 35mm) but that's really pixel peeping.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 4 2011, 02:55 PM)
Just sharing my personal point of view; It's still best for your to try it out yourself and decide.
NEW 17-50mm f/2.8 Tamron is around RM1.2K... not RM2K.
NEW 17-55mm f/2.8 Nikon is around RM4.8K? That's about 4X difference, and for MOST DX users who are using for hobby, they may have low budget; They MAY NOT need to get the BEST lens, but they may only need a good lens.
Perhaps when Tamron sells their 17-50 lens, they should come with a caveat to say, "Please don't expect wonders when you buy this lens". biggrin.gif Then perhaps we won't get people complaining why their Tamron 17-50 lens is not up to their expectations.


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 4 2011, 02:55 PM)
Just like cars, a Japanese car priced at RM90K, a continental car priced at RM90K, but there is a huge difference in terms of specifications, but people may not see, and they may say they don't need the feature. But think for a second, you're paying so much with less features and spec, less/no tax, etc? Don't need is OK, but it's NICE TO HAVE.
In the first place, I think we cannot compare car prices in MY. They are all screwed up. When you compare conti vs jap cars, one needs to compare reliability, spare parts availability and price. Not just price of car alone. Not all jap cars are created equal.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Nov 4 2011, 02:59 PM)
ya lor , i wonder how does 24-70 perform in close up shot?

<-- wan shoot figure.
I shoot a lot of of my diecast with the 24-70mm f/2.8. You don't get 1:1 shots. Close enough to get details if you want. Look at their MFD spec.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Nov 4 2011, 03:22 PM)
Good point u got there, hmm, im not sure why your tammy 17-50 1.2k, but those that i check, i think i check sigma, is around 2k, maybe updated version of 17-50 gua.
I think perhaps you check the one with VC?

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Nov 4 2011, 03:22 PM)
Well, if i understand you correctly, u mean 2nd hand price should be higher instead of 3.5k for 17-55?
On a side note, if you were to sell off your 2nd hand 17-55mm f/2.8 that you bought for 3.5k, how much would you get back? I'm guessing 3.5k or more? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Nov 9 2011, 12:51 AM)
anyway, wide angle + cpl = perfect landscape combo during clear blue sky  brows.gif
If you're shooting in the northern or southern hemisphere, you don't even need CPL for blue skies. Shoot at any time of the day and the skies are beautiful ! wub.gif


QUOTE(chiahau @ Nov 9 2011, 12:55 AM)
Problem is, the use of CPL is more common on UWAs and etc and not on tele-zoom like the 24-70, 70-200..

But of course, you can use it. No harm, no foul.
Using CPL on 24-70 is fine especially on FX.

Actually, I think it's more tricky to use CPL on UWA lenses Vignetting is one thing but the problem is the CPL needs to be very thin to avoid unevenness of the polarizing effect. I believe on 14mm FF/FX, the thinnest CPL will still give you problems...

QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Nov 9 2011, 12:56 AM)
Clear blue sky, and greener grasses, also very good for shooting portrait under sunlight to remove unwated exposure  blush.gif
Errr... How does that work? hmm.gif

QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Nov 9 2011, 12:56 AM)
Well the 14-24 f/2.8 then  tongue.gif
Due to the curvature glass on the 14-24mm f/2.8 lens, there is no CPL available. No point anyways as CPL does not work properly at 14mm on FX.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 9 2011, 07:23 AM)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Sandisk-...91/N/4158221993

Price drop on the Sandisk Extreme cards at BH! Anybody wanna organize a bulk maybe? tongue.gif

Sandisk Extreme 16GB CF at USD55.99, about RM180... its selling for about RM300~RM330 in Msia.
Damn. Just bought the 16GB CF 60MB/s from them about 2 months ago. That was USD 62.49 each and I had to buy 2 to get that price. Still cheap but now it's cheaper ! sweat.gif That price can already get a 90MB/s version. cry.gif

Anyway, I suggest that you wait for Black Friday sales which will happen end of this month. I think it will be lagi cheap.

Oh, another tip... Don't use UPS because you will surely kena tax like I did. Use USPS International Express Mail with tracking that goes through our Pos Malaysia. More likely NOT to get taxed.

QUOTE(adriansyc @ Nov 10 2011, 12:21 AM)
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ur 18105 got this kind of sound? is this normal or nt? icon_question.gif
It's not normal. It usually means the lens needs lubrication service. Have it checked at the SC.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 10 2011, 10:36 AM)
16GB also not enough one, hehe, get 32GB, less worry.
All eggs in one basket no good. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Nov 10 2011, 10:39 AM)
wan to ask anyone got try non-nikon shop (3rd party shop?) to service camera? the BTS nikon center is refurbishing so i duno wan to send my camera to service or what... PKNS there is so far.
As for a quote lor from the 3rd party shop... See how much different it is from Nikon SC. If the difference is like night and day, go for the cheaper one. If not much difference, then I'd rather go for Nikon SC even though it's slightly more expensive. A piece of mind and should anything happen, you can bang table and demand that they fix it.

QUOTE(ifer @ Nov 10 2011, 11:19 AM)
my 8gb gives me 99 photos nia (i have 3 cards of 8gb currently)
You using Hassy ah?
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Nov 10 2011, 11:26 AM)
Futhermore, if I buy bigger MC I need bigger HDD and HDD prices these days sky rocket until next universe laugh.gif
Yup. Spoiled my plan. I initially planned on getting more but with the current situation, would probably have to delay purchasing plans till next year. Now no choice but to go though 8TB + 8TB + 4TB + 4TB of junk and delete to make more space for more junk. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 10 2011, 12:53 PM)
If only 1 slot, what is no good?

If have 2 slot, doesn't mean only need to use 1 slot.

As I said, people who only need 2 X 8GB  will argue and said why need to get 16GB. It's all about personal preference and choice. It's just a suggestion in case one day, one needs the extra space (e.g. have not clear the SD Card, and need to shoot some extra photos). Again, just examples.........  sweat.gif  pressure pressure  sweat.gif
Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of having two slotted camera bodies... Yet. Just the conventional 1 slot. sad.gif

Reason why I said what I said is I feel 16GB cards are just about right for 12MP resolution. I somewhat agree with vearn27's point. Was at the last Singapore GP and I found myself not having to change cards at all which was cool. I could continue shooting without any worry. Nearing towards the end, I swap for a new 16GB card not because the 1st one was full but just so that I do not have to worry about looking at the remaining space left on the 1st CF. I also think it's prudent to spread your eggs on different baskets.

Anyway, I actually debated getting a single 32GB CF but there is always a "what if" situation. If I should misplace or something gets corrupted, everything is gone ! Pufff ! Oh, there was also the price point prohibition. 2 x 16GB for me at that time was much cheaper than 1 x 32GB. tongue.gif 16GB still looks like a sweat spot.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 10 2011, 12:24 PM)
Gonna get a pair of 16GB Extreme pro perhaps.. tongue.gif price looks good!
Wah... 4x 16GB. rclxub.gif

I use to remember bringing 2GB CF cards and a 30GB mobile hardisk to transfer my files wherever and whenever I expect to shoot a lot. Seems like it's not required anymore nowadays.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 10 2011, 02:35 PM)
Yes, I know and understand that theory especially the what if. It's the same for people who prefer more smaller size card, like multiple 8GB, it's cheaper too. But as I said, there's no wrong or right, just preference; Beside, it's just a suggestion, since he's "upgrading", maybe can get straight a 32GB card instead, but not necessarily must get. There's many point of view of whether getting larger or more units. Both have it's pros and cons.

Price is another factor, sometimes you can get 2 X 16GB for much lesser than 1 X 32GB, but if you can get 1 X 32GB at less cost than 2 X 16GB, for me, that's a good consideration; Maybe let's put it 1 X 16GB cost less than 2 X 8GB in case 32GB is unacceptable to view in the picture.
I know that there is no right or wrong. 8GB cards were nice back then. I still have 2 and I found that after upgrading to D300 and D700, I would fill up both 8GB cards and scurry for my older 4GB cards. It was always the case of overfill and trying to swap cards. Now when I bought 16GB cards, you can really feel the difference. The stress and fear of overfilling the card is not there anymore and you can shoot in comfort. Yes, I'll hazard a guess that 4 x 8GB would be cheaper than 2 x 16GB but the slightly higher premium for the 16GB is worth it in my opinion. A sweat spot if you may call it.

Of course the story cycle never ends. When D800 comes out at whatever resolution, the same thing would happen again with 16GB cards. Not enough. But then, we'll leave that for another day and time when prices get lower and newer tech come out. Perhaps another round of discussion at The Official Nikon Discussion Thread V20. biggrin.gif


Added on November 10, 2011, 2:55 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 10 2011, 02:40 PM)
Sometimes if one need to attend an event somewhere far away, and didn't bring laptop (or whatever storage); say the event is 2 days, one will appreciate to have more space, whether it's more cards or more space in 1 card. Anyway, when the time comes, either way, one will appreciate to have the extra space.

Adequate is nice, but when one encounter certain situation, the lack of space can be very troublesome. E.g. the client have a lot of friends and they all likes to take pictures, so the keep request to take their picture or whatever situation you can think of as an example (I'm just giving one simple one); When your "adequate" space is out/limited, the headache comes. I always prefer to bring more/extra, it's better than enough.
Even though I have 2x 16GB CF cards, I still bring my 2x 8GB CF and 2x$GB CF cards for those "what if" situations... Scout motto... Be prepared !

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Nov 10 2011, 02:44 PM)
i canot imagine keep plugging CF card and transfer to harddisk is pain in arse.  tongue.gif
lucky i m not photographer XD
Not a photographer? A stalker, perhaps? biggrin.gif

Swapping cards was not too bad actually. Especially if you shoot JPG or compressed NEF on older cameras. After a while, you'll learn how to juggle.

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Nov 10 2011, 03:27 PM)
HDD price at the current is 300% increased compared with 2 weeks back. I'm not willing to pay for that sad.gif
Online storage anybody?
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:01 PM)
Not so convenient for those that doesn't has access to blazing fast Internet speed + unlimited bandwidth luxury.
Agreed.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:01 PM)
Storing RAW on cloud... LOL !!!
Why not... Doesn't get corrupted and it's always there when you want it.

A full 14MB NEF file can be uploaded / downloaded in less than 10 seconds. I've tested and it's possible to upload / download about 170GB worth of RAW files per day.

QUOTE(ifer @ Nov 10 2011, 04:04 PM)
CF cards are alright. it's the SD that's a pain in the arse. i might just drop it due to the wee size
Yeah, same feeling about SD cards. Too fragile and small. One thing I like about them is eye-fi support.

QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:13 PM)
Erm perhaps flickr?
Flickr can store RAW files? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:24 PM)
I see. Thanks~
What about those old stock HDD? Suppose they shouldn't just increase the price? I think you can try Viewnet or All IT Hypermart, the prices should not change? Or you can try Harvey Norman; these store shouldn't simply throw/change their prices?
Don't worry. They have it all covered up. Old stock or new stock. Everything is under the new high price. When it comes to price increase, you bet that every tom d*** and harry will jump on it.

You may want to try your luck on external drives... But then again, their prices might already been increased as we speak. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ikki9394 @ Nov 11 2011, 12:00 PM)
Another lens im looking at is the 135mm F/2D DC. Heard its best for portrait so far.
Indeed it is. But if you're on DX body, best is to stick with the 85mm f/1.4. It's ok on FX but on DX it is too long.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Nov 11 2011, 12:39 PM)
Getting lens at HK? Which area is the best for lens bargain? Mongkok ah? huh.gif
You're asking us? hmm.gif You should be the one telling us...

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Nov 11 2011, 01:11 PM)
But seriously, i thought no tax for photography stuff in Malaysia, but why lens seems cheaper at HK, whereas here much expensive? what makes the diff? middleman?
Higher markup to compensate for lower volume...

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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Nov 11 2011, 02:54 PM)
Yeah, I ask my fren to help me get mine last time in Mongkok. Specific location i'm not sure...he went in several shops till he found the cheapest for me.
Wah... What a good friend you have there. smile.gif

QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Nov 11 2011, 02:54 PM)
Aii, its a very good lens seriously. But only to those that know how to use it and know its value since its an old lens. Ppl tend to ignore it. sad.gif
Yeah, indeed it's an old gem. I bought mine in July 2005. That time I had a D70 and later on a D2Hs. I felt that it was
a little too long and therefore it remained then as my most underutilised lens. I resorted to the 85mm f/1.4 more. Now on FX, it's wonderful.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Nov 11 2011, 03:18 PM)
Yeah, I need to ask you guys. Because I kept reading here that buying camera stuff in HK is cheap, whereas when I check them around is almost the same or just slightly lower. The most I could think of is only Mongkok and Sham Shui Po.
Did you try around Stanley Street on HK island?

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Of particular interest was this shop I went to... Don't know if it's still there but they had quite good stock of things and had the Nikon accessory I wanted for quite a good price.

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QUOTE(ojtee @ Nov 11 2011, 06:06 PM)
on the subject of portrait lenses......

which would be a better dual purpose lens alternating between macro and general purpose use on a DX body?
1. nikkor 60mm f2.8
2  nikkor 85mm f/3.5 DX
bear in mind my current walkabout is a 16-85mm f/3.5-f5.6

i'm thinking of adding one of these as the 105mm VR doesn't really suit my macro usage at this moment
The 85mm is a DX only lens. If you're fine with that, why not...

Why is the 105mm f/2.8 VR not your cup of tea for macro? Too long? If that's the case, the 60mm f/2.8 is your next best alternative. Should be very sharp for potraits. You can also check out the 40mm f/2.8 micro but that's a DX only lens.

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Nov 11 2011, 06:37 PM)
Well, taking budget and value into consideration, imo, since OJT using 16-85, should get 105 2.8 instead. Macro as well as the extra range, if ever needed.
True but he already said 105mm f/2.8 micro does not suite him. If too long, perhaps the 60mm f/2.8 micro should be excellent choice.

QUOTE(chiahau @ Nov 11 2011, 08:44 PM)
All this talk about 85G, I today tested out the great 85mm ZF f1,4CZ for Nikon mount and this lens, is seriously damn sharp smile.gif

Too bad, it's manual focus only for Nikon mount or else.....
As far as I know, all CZ lenses are MF... That's the only sad part. If they were AF, they would have ruled the Nikon world.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 15 2011, 08:33 PM)
Still cheaper than zooms... unless if you're referring to 300/400/600 tongue.gif
You forgot the FatBoy aka 200mm f/2.0.

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