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 US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter

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post Jun 21 2013, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 21 2013, 02:29 AM)
-420pts down since 15,300 mid-week

tomorrow KLSE hantam down. oh my,...
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rclxms.gif More. Klci wont la laugh.gif
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post Jun 21 2013, 03:00 AM

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post Jun 21 2013, 03:03 AM

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Guys,

Do not be a hero and click BUY here.. momentum still going because the trap door below that support is broken.
Plenty of time here, let it settle down. Seeing a lots of forced selling at L2.

I'm hanging on to my bear shares for now.. smile.gif

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post Jun 21 2013, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 21 2013, 03:03 AM)
Guys,

Do not be a hero and click BUY here.. momentum still going because the trap door below that support is broken.
Plenty of time here, let it settle down. Seeing a lots of forced selling at L2.

I'm hanging on to my bear shares for now..   smile.gif
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thanks for the warning. nod.gif
1550 seems to be the next support?
on a 1 year graph, the up wave was all the way up from 1350. A safer bet would be 1350-1450? hmm.gif

my Apple has turned bad. On paper -3.5% now. More to come perhaps. sweat.gif

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post Jun 21 2013, 04:46 AM

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Lots of blood tonight.. Dow lost 15k and SP500 lost 1600.
Bears are out in force here with -350pts lost on dow, -40pts for SP500.
Haven't see that for long time but I guess it's better than no time. wink.gif

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post Jun 21 2013, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 21 2013, 04:46 AM)
Lots of blood tonight.. Dow lost 15k and SP500 lost 1600.
Bears are out in force here with -350pts lost on dow, -40pts for SP500.
Haven't see that for long time but I guess it's better than no time.  wink.gif
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Correct. I have not seen - 300pts for a very long time
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 21 2013, 07:10 AM)
Correct.  I have not seen - 300pts for a very long time
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Hey Z! How's it going?

Brutal slaughter overnight.. bears are roaming out to play.
Goes to show how quick sentiments can change. biggrin.gif

Anyway, watch for SP500 for triple witching Friday close tonight.
If SP500 can't get back above 1608-1610 in the next bounce up, there's going to another major selloff..

I'm going to SELL and SHORT this rally. brows.gif


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post Jun 21 2013, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 21 2013, 07:19 AM)
Hey Z! How's it going? 

Brutal slaughter overnight.. bears are roaming out to play.
Goes to show how quick sentiments can change.  biggrin.gif

Anyway, watch for SP500 for triple witching Friday close tonight.
If SP500 can't get back above 1608-1610 in the next bounce up, there's going to another major selloff..

I'm going to SELL and SHORT this rally.  brows.gif
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it has been good, but the market and portfolio is not doing well.
I'm holding Netflix bear options but on negative. Extremely thin volume and expiry is today.

will be looking into the 2x or 3x bear etf especially precious metal related.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 21 2013, 03:06 AM)
Stay in cash and wait. KLCI seems be hanging by 50ma now. Let see if it can bounce off first.
If not, I think it may want to fill that gap to 1720.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 21 2013, 08:28 AM)
it has been good, but the market and portfolio is not doing well.
I'm holding Netflix bear options but on negative. Extremely thin volume and expiry is today.

will be looking into the 2x or 3x bear etf especially precious metal related.
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NFLX is one of those strong stock that refuses to die because of CEO pumping- tread carefully.
But, you can get your opportunity if it can dive below 212 (50ma bears line)

Better bear side to play during bears attack would be AAPL, FB, GLD, SLV all fallen into bear territory.
Bad girl LVS also recently fell thru. Lotsa of opportunity here. laugh.gif

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post Jun 21 2013, 10:43 AM

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Based on US's fundamental, I have the feeling this bear can't be too strong. Maybe it just roar for a while, then follow by sleepy bear and sleepy bull leaving the market alone for a longer while. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jun 21 2013, 10:43 AM)
Based on US's fundamental, I have the feeling this bear can't be too strong. Maybe it just roar for a while, then follow by sleepy bear and sleepy bull leaving the market alone for a longer while.  hmm.gif
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hmm.gif I believe it only short term bear for US, wait it completely digest the QE news

withdrawal of QE suppose a good news for US, it represent US economy recovering well
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its just testing the 15k barrier.
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If some of you who are short term trader like me, go ahead be brave to buy some for bounce tonight, which I expect could happen when it opens.

But, no need to rush in and buy for long term investor yet.

I do expect when SP500 bounces up,, that ceiling at 1608-1610 could force it back down with another rout of selling. This is where I would short and ride it down.

Then again, I'll have tight stops in place in case it doesn't happen.

Let see how it goes.. and hopefully everyone can make some money!
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 21 2013, 01:30 PM)
If some of you who are short term trader like me, go ahead be brave to buy some for bounce tonight, which I expect could happen when it opens.

But, no need to rush in and buy for long term investor yet.

I do expect when SP500 bounces up,, that ceiling at 1608-1610 could force it back down with another rout of selling. This is where I would short and ride it down.

Then again, I'll have tight stops in place in case it doesn't happen.

Let see how it goes.. and hopefully everyone can make some money!
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KLCI looks like got support during morning session.
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post Jun 21 2013, 03:23 PM

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How many screens do you guys use to trade and the inch? biggrin.gif

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Gold will drop again after raising the margin (though now it's pointing up)?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cme-raise...dist=beforebell

Last time when silver was raised, smaller investors/traders couldn't enter and it dropped.

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post Jun 21 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(countdown @ Jun 21 2013, 09:03 PM)
Gold will drop again after raising the margin (though now it's pointing up)?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cme-raise...dist=beforebell

Last time when silver was raised, smaller investors/traders couldn't enter and it dropped.
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Lost $2 for my GLL since GLD is bouncing, not a problem. Holding my stop at $96 here.
If GLD goes back up to 129/130 and if it looks like it stalling, I'll reshort again.

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jun 21 2013, 09:45 PM)
Lost $2 for my GLL since GLD is bouncing, not a problem. Holding my stop at $96 here.
If GLD goes back up to 129/130 and if it looks like it stalling, I'll reshort again.
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tq for ur input, I'll stay away for a while and will take a position end of today.

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post Jun 21 2013, 11:18 PM

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A little bear rest? Maybe close slightly red. Next week continue bear ride? biggrin.gif

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