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 US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter

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danmooncake
post Aug 22 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Aug 21 2012, 10:19 PM)
You can either short commons, buy puts or write calls.


Added on August 21, 2012, 11:25 pmSold all options, short terms and LEAPS. Gave back some profit but still a good return for 3 days trade. all in cash now. Need to preserve cash for the coming Q1. This is going to be a huge ER.
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Nice timing... laugh.gif

I'm out of long trading positions as well, move to cash.. load some puts on my cyclical stocks.

Ready to ride this thing down.. hoping for at least 5% pull back here.
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post Aug 22 2012, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 22 2012, 09:43 AM)
Nice timing...  laugh.gif

I'm out of long trading positions as well, move to cash.. load some puts on my cyclical stocks.

Ready to ride this thing down.. hoping for at least 5% pull back here.
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One of the reasons i sell was the upcoming jury verdict on the Samsung case. This pose a huge opportunity/risk as the stock will trade up/down significantly depending on the jury's verdict. I did contemplate to long a straddle position but decided to wait for the news to break out before making any move. Don't get me wrong, i am still a long term AAPL bull. in the next 2-3 years this is going to be a trillion dollar company. Now waiting for a good entry point.
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post Aug 22 2012, 09:10 PM

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http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2012...-samsung-trial/

This the update on AAPL just an hour ago. According to the report, AAPL has a higher chance of winning.

A ban on Samsung will shoot AAPL to another sky high level.


Added on August 22, 2012, 9:16 pmCoach, Inc. to pay out dividend on month of October,
buying it now will get you a $0.30 per common share.
Moreover it is currently close at a 5-days low of 50.04.

What are your thoughts?


This post has been edited by halofujima: Aug 22 2012, 09:16 PM
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post Aug 22 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(halofujima @ Aug 22 2012, 09:10 PM)
http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2012...-samsung-trial/
This the update on AAPL just an hour ago. According to the report, AAPL has a higher chance of winning.
A ban on Samsung will shoot AAPL to another sky high level.
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Don't be surprised.. investors could SELL the news.. brows.gif

QUOTE(halofujima @ Aug 22 2012, 09:10 PM)

Added on August 22, 2012, 9:16 pmCoach, Inc. to pay out dividend on month of October,
buying it now will get you a $0.30 per common share.
Moreover it is currently close at a 5-days low of 50.04.
What are your thoughts?
Is this for trade only (if you're looking at 5 days)? Chart looks pretty bearish... hmm.gif
Div. yield of only 2.10% - imo, not attractive like others.

This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 22 2012, 09:21 PM
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post Aug 22 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 22 2012, 09:17 PM)
Don't be surprised.. investors could SELL the news..  brows.gif
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Agree, but we as consumers would know the obvious.
Only the jury will be fooled. That is why I say a higher chance of winning.

But Samsung defense is, I hereby quote-unquote:
"Rather than competing in the marketplace,
Apple is seeking a competitive edge in the courtroom," Verhoeven said.
"(Apple thinks) it's entitled to having a monopoly on a rounded rectangle with a large screen. It's amazing really."

So by saying this, My LG television does look similar to my Sony TV biggrin.gif


Added on August 22, 2012, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 22 2012, 09:17 PM)
Is this for trade only (if you're looking at 5 days)? Chart looks pretty bearish...  hmm.gif
Div. yield of only 2.10% - imo, not attractive like others.
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Yesterday Coach Inc close @ 54.83. If you bought it and can hold till after 6th September, it means you bought the share value of 54.53 at that point.
1month high is at 62.
3 month high is at 70.
Low at 48.

This post has been edited by halofujima: Aug 22 2012, 09:51 PM
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post Aug 23 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(halofujima @ Aug 22 2012, 09:21 PM)
Yesterday Coach Inc close @ 54.83. If you bought it and can hold till after 6th September, it means you bought the share value of 54.53 at that point.
1month high is at 62.
3 month high is at 70.
Low at 48.
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Yeah but hold two weeks.. only get 30c?

There are stocks that can give you more than $1 move within a day..
if for trading purpose..it can make you more money that way.
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:54 AM

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I am back in AAPL 2013 Feb calls big time. That is the sweet spot as Q1 ER will be around end of Jan. Pppl will be scrambling to buy feb calls by then. Might roll my leaps to feb calls too.
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Frack!! US Feds are intervening again... got stop out of Puts.
They're not letting this thing go down yet.
All pumping on hot air now.. mad.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 23 2012, 03:29 AM)
Frack!! US Feds are intervening again... got stop out of Puts. 
They're not letting this thing go down yet.
All pumping on hot air now..  mad.gif
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Qe3 when s&p hit 4 year high?

Give me a break
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post Aug 24 2012, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Aug 23 2012, 06:53 AM)
Qe3 when s&p hit 4 year high?
Give me a break
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Thank goodness for the pull back tonight.. market realized that not cheering for the Fed's a good thing.
What a head fake.

Now, let continue on more pull back here. thumbup.gif
$SPX short term target = 1385.. (15 pts to go)

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QUOTE(bizklguy @ Aug 21 2012, 10:11 PM)
There are many online brokers such as OptionsHouse, E*Trade, Fidelity etc, but I hv been using Just2trade and so far it serves its purpose of providing a low-cost (USD2.5 per transaction) platform for experienced traders.
http://www.just2trade.com/home nod.gif
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I also realise that J2T has the lowest fees. Does this platform reliable or good enough? I remember someone else told me that some of the platforms out there, the live price is updated slower than Google Finance?
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 24 2012, 01:36 AM)
Thank goodness for the pull back tonight.. market realized that not cheering for the Fed's a good thing.
What a head fake.

Now, let continue on more pull back here.  thumbup.gif
$SPX short term target = 1385.. (15 pts to go)
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Dow broke its 20MA

S&P 1385 not enough lar laugh.gif

Hopefully we'll see some support at the 50MA drool.gif drool.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(jeenhao @ Aug 24 2012, 07:55 AM)
I also realise that J2T has the lowest fees. Does this platform reliable or good enough? I remember someone else told me that some of the platforms out there, the live price is updated slower than Google Finance?
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Just like other leading online brokers, J2t is also protected by SIPC which safeguards investors assets in the event of firm closure. Both J2t and GF are realtime; users might experience slight differences in data refresh and these might due to "end user" factors such Internet connection, user's device performance etc.

Some urls for your reading pleasure..
http://www.just2trade.com/about_us/security_and_insurance
http://www.sipc.org/

Security & Protection
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Account Protection
In addition to SIPC coverage of $500,000 ($100,000 max in cash), Just2Trade accounts are protected with additional coverage of $100 million through Lloyd’s of London. This coverage offers a maximum of $24.5 million per client and up to $900,000 in cash. With SIPC and Lloyd’s of London coverage, you can feel protected: up to $25 million per client (as defined by SIPC rules), which includes up to $1 million for cash balances. Please be advised that SIPC and Lloyds protects a customer against insolvency only and does not protect against market depreciation, fluctuation or trading loss. For more information, visit www.sipc.org.
Internet Security
All data transmitted between your computer and our trading systems is protected with Secure Socket Layering (SSL) technology, which establishes an encrypted connection between our Web server and your browser. SSL protocol is recognized as an industry standard that ensures the safe transmission of private information on the Web. We employ the highest level of security (256-bit encryption) to safeguard your account against unauthorized access to your personal information. The padlock icon on your browser and the URL prefix "HTTPS" indicate that you are connected to a secure channel.

About SIPC
When a brokerage firm is closed due to bankruptcy or other financial difficulties and customer assets are missing, SIPC steps in as quickly as possible and, within certain limits, works to return customers' cash, stock and other securities, and other customer property. Without SIPC, investors at financially troubled brokerage firms might lose their securities or money forever or wait for years while their assets are tied up in court.
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(jeenhao @ Aug 24 2012, 07:55 AM)
I also realise that J2T has the lowest fees. Does this platform reliable or good enough? I remember someone else told me that some of the platforms out there, the live price is updated slower than Google Finance?
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I think some people have said J2T has horrible uptime, response and bad customer service. Unfortunately, I don't know if true since I don't use 'em.

Depending on how often and size of your trade... certain commissions plan (eg. from MBTrading) can be worth it.
Eg. MBT just charge me $1 for each 100 shares to trade. But, if you've large volume, look for flat-rate prices (eg. TDAmeritrade.. $10 commission for 1million shares in a single transaction laugh.gif )


Added on August 24, 2012, 9:47 am
QUOTE(Myoswee @ Aug 24 2012, 08:44 AM)
Dow broke its 20MA

S&P 1385 not enough lar  laugh.gif

Hopefully we'll see some support at the 50MA  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Well, I hope it will walk itself down the stairs.. and not waterfall.
Usually, if it goes whoosh.. the bounce back is equally hard. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(bizklguy @ Aug 24 2012, 09:38 AM)
Just like other leading online brokers, J2t is also protected by SIPC which safeguards investors assets in the event of firm closure. Both J2t and GF are realtime; users might experience slight differences in data refresh and these might due to "end user" factors such Internet connection, user's device performance etc.

Some urls for your reading pleasure..
http://www.just2trade.com/about_us/security_and_insurance
http://www.sipc.org/

Security & Protection
We are serious about protecting your account and personal information. Our unique security technology safeguards your privacy.

Account Protection
In addition to SIPC coverage of $500,000 ($100,000 max in cash), Just2Trade accounts are protected with additional  coverage of $100 million through Lloyd’s of London.  This coverage offers a maximum of $24.5 million per client and up to $900,000 in cash.  With SIPC and Lloyd’s of London coverage, you can feel protected: up to $25 million per client (as defined by SIPC rules), which includes up to $1 million for cash balances. Please be advised that SIPC and Lloyds protects a customer against insolvency only and does not protect against market depreciation, fluctuation or trading loss. For more information, visit www.sipc.org.
Internet Security
All data transmitted between your computer and our trading systems is protected with Secure Socket Layering (SSL) technology, which establishes an encrypted connection between our Web server and your browser. SSL protocol is recognized as an industry standard that ensures the safe transmission of private information on the Web. We employ the highest level of security (256-bit encryption) to safeguard your account against unauthorized access to your personal information. The padlock icon on your browser and the URL prefix "HTTPS" indicate that you are connected to a secure channel.

About SIPC
When a brokerage firm is closed due to bankruptcy or other financial difficulties and customer assets are missing, SIPC steps in as quickly as possible and, within certain limits, works to return customers' cash, stock and other securities, and other customer property. Without SIPC, investors at financially troubled brokerage firms might lose their securities or money forever or wait for years while their assets are tied up in court.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 24 2012, 09:44 AM)
I think some people have said J2T has horrible uptime, response and bad customer service.  Unfortunately, I don't know if true since I don't use 'em. 

Depending on how often and size of your trade... certain commissions plan (eg. from MBTrading)  can be worth it.
Eg. MBT just charge me $1 for each 100 shares to trade. But, if you've large volume, look for flat-rate prices (eg. TDAmeritrade.. $10 commission for 1million shares in a single transaction  laugh.gif )


Added on August 24, 2012, 9:47 am

Well, I hope it will walk itself down the stairs.. and not waterfall.
Usually, if it goes whoosh.. the bounce back is equally hard.  biggrin.gif
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Thank you for the replies smile.gif
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post Aug 24 2012, 05:28 PM

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[quote=danmooncake,Aug 24 2012, 09:44 AM]
I think some people have said J2T has horrible uptime, response and bad customer service. Unfortunately, I don't know if true since I don't use 'em.

Depending on how often and size of your trade... certain commissions plan (eg. from MBTrading) can be worth it.
Eg. MBT just charge me $1 for each 100 shares to trade. But, if you've large volume, look for flat-rate prices (eg. TDAmeritrade.. $10 commission for 1million shares in a single transaction laugh.gif )

Which platform do you use?


Added on August 24, 2012, 5:29 pmAn update on Samsung-Apple Trial (Korea)

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...ec=reutersworld


This post has been edited by halofujima: Aug 24 2012, 05:29 PM
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post Aug 24 2012, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(halofujima @ Aug 24 2012, 05:28 PM)
QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 24 2012, 09:44 AM)

I think some people have said J2T has horrible uptime, response and bad customer service.  Unfortunately, I don't know if true since I don't use 'em. 

Depending on how often and size of your trade... certain commissions plan (eg. from MBTrading)  can be worth it.
Eg. MBT just charge me $1 for each 100 shares to trade. But, if you've large volume, look for flat-rate prices (eg. TDAmeritrade.. $10 commission for 1million shares in a single transaction  laugh.gif )

Which platform do you use?

MBT. wink.gif So, I like it because it's cheap... for low volume trade or quick day trade if you want to scalp.

For large volume.. I like TDAmeritrade ($10 for unlimited number of shares per transaction).

Update Friday Aug 24 evening:
SPX drops to 1398.. bounced back hard. Got back above 1405.. bumped into resistance 1409. Dead cat bounce.
Need SPX to settle between 1405 and 1409 into close, otherwise the bulls will take back control. wink.gif

This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 24 2012, 11:59 PM
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post Aug 25 2012, 07:07 AM

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AAPL getting ATH on the verdict. Lucky I got back in the calls. Up huge. Thank you Samsung!
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post Aug 25 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Aug 25 2012, 07:07 AM)
AAPL getting ATH on the verdict. Lucky I got back in the calls. Up huge. Thank you Samsung!
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-appl...0,6199547.story

1billion! Gonna go up on monday!
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post Aug 26 2012, 10:17 PM

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hmm.gif I don't think I will expect "huge" up for AAPL because the expectation is already there for AAPL to win.
AAPL got awarded half of their monetary claims (despite winning 6/7), Samsung will appeal the verdict, and if they settle (both Giants still have to work together for other stuff in the market, ironically AAPL cpu is made by Samsung), it could be less than 1 bln later. Anyway, 1 bln is probably like nothing to both of these companies.

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