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 Squats/Deadlifts/BenchPress/WeightedPress 101, By Mark Rippetoe

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post Sep 9 2011, 02:08 AM

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one question: how do u guys spot squat?

mark rippetoe said in his book squat is best spotted by 3 spotter (one on each side, one behind). since this is not really applicable to us (unless you bring 3 spotters with you to the gym), if there's only one spotter available, he/she should spot the bar in stead of the lifter.

"One spotter standing behind the lifter, leaning over with arms wrapped around and under the lifter's chest, is not only an embarrassing position but also a terribly ineffective and unsafe one."

yet, i still get tonnes of people commenting bout my gym buddy and my way of spotting. they claimed that we should spot the lifter.
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post Sep 9 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(The Silent Killer @ Sep 9 2011, 02:08 AM)
one question: how do u guys spot squat?

mark rippetoe said in his book squat is best spotted by 3 spotter (one on each side, one behind). since this is not really applicable to us (unless you bring 3 spotters with you to the gym), if there's only one spotter available, he/she should spot the bar in stead of the lifter.

"One spotter standing behind the lifter, leaning over with arms wrapped around and under the lifter's chest, is not only an embarrassing position but also a terribly ineffective and unsafe one."

yet, i still get tonnes of people commenting bout my gym buddy and my way of spotting. they claimed that we should spot the lifter.
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your gym doesn't have a power rack? for me, i don't have any gym buddies, so the safety pins will do the spotting for me.

"One spotter standing behind the lifter, leaning over with arms wrapped around and under the lifter's chest, is not only an embarrassing position but also a terribly ineffective and unsafe one."
this, yeah. what if that guy's squatting 100kg, can't do shit really.

one more thing guys, get the book "Starting Strength: Basic Barbell Training" by mark rippetoe. it's very good and thorough explanation of squat, dl, bp, clean and press.


Added on September 9, 2011, 11:01 pm
QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 7 2011, 04:56 PM)
Not entirely true. A shorter torso squatter, will have a field day squatting. A lifter with shorter femurs in comparison to the tibia would squat differently too. Some guys like those with a short femur, long torso and insufficient ankle mobility will shit himself trying to squat deep. And then there are individuals with long femurs and short torso who will use the above technique perfectly. Generally a 1:1 femur:tibia length with a medium torso make the best squatters and pullers. So go measure yourselves before.

And you'll see that squatting 140KG is a whole different ballgame from squatting 200KG. The basic is obviously the same, up and down, but in no way is it the same at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jxTc2ITA8  <-long torso squatters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_HhFFBFQA8 <- short torso squatters

See how different they are?
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i understand man, that's what mark always stresses.

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post Sep 9 2011, 11:25 PM

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Power racks and squat racks should usually be equipped with safety bars.
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post Sep 22 2011, 11:43 AM

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225KG ......
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post Sep 22 2011, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Sep 22 2011, 11:43 AM)


225KG ......
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At first I thought he was gonna back squat it, then I saw him put it on his shoulders and thought 'wow, he's gonna front squat that', then he bloody pressed it and my mind was blown. laugh.gif
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post Sep 22 2011, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Sep 22 2011, 03:51 PM)
At first I thought he was gonna back squat it, then I saw him put it on his shoulders and thought 'wow, he's gonna front squat that', then he bloody pressed it and my mind was blown.  laugh.gif
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ROFL same here. good thing i didnt read your post before watching it.

he bloody pressed it. wtff
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Sep 22 2011, 03:51 PM)
At first I thought he was gonna back squat it, then I saw him put it on his shoulders and thought 'wow, he's gonna front squat that', then he bloody pressed it and my mind was blown.  laugh.gif
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Klokov probably has a squat of about 330-350KG considering the ease in which he rose from a 245KG clean.

Another lifter to look after is Akkayev and a young Czech lifter. 22 but playing with the big boys

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http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-search/video

another source of information. the deadlift tutorial was pretty good imo
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Oct 17 2011, 06:23 PM)
http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-search/video

another source of information. the deadlift tutorial was pretty good imo
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post Nov 15 2011, 01:40 AM

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Great info, thanks for the thread!
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post Nov 17 2011, 11:56 AM

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Can we do lifting without warm ups?
I am still afraid to do lifting, it just looks like the weight is gonna kill me
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Nov 17 2011, 11:56 AM)
Can we do lifting without warm ups?
I am still afraid to do lifting, it just looks like the weight is gonna kill me
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Not warming up is a recipe for disaster. You take a frozen slab of meat, you throw it on the ground, chances are it'll snap. Now, you let another piece of meat defrost, i.e. you warm it up, then throw it on the ground, it's not going to snap or crack or anything.

And nobody is asking you to put 300kg on the bar the first day you step into the gym.
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What sort of warm ups do u usually do before lifting? running? or light lifting?
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Active warm ups. Means, do light weights with the exercise that you are about to perform , up to 60% of your work set weights
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I did some dumbbell deadlifts(No barbell at home) yesterday and today I had some minor pains but I dont know whether its like soreness instead.I touched my lower back and it did feel pain a lil..Im kinda worried now..yikes
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QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ Nov 29 2011, 09:45 AM)
I did some dumbbell deadlifts(No barbell at home) yesterday and today I had some minor pains but I dont know whether its like soreness instead.I touched my lower back and it did feel pain a lil..Im kinda worried now..yikes
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tender pain or sharp pain?
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Nov 29 2011, 09:46 AM)
tender pain or sharp pain?
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I think its more of a sharp pain now..Its not DOMS is it? Not cool..

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QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ Nov 29 2011, 08:23 PM)
I think its more of a sharp pain now.. Not cool..
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Are you able to bend forwards/backwards/sideways without pain? Lie flat on the floor and try to lift one leg, keeping it straight. Do the same with the other and then try both legs. If you feel any pain or a tingling sensation in your back or down your legs, stop immediately and if that's the case, you'd best get to a chiropractor as soon as you can.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Nov 29 2011, 09:12 PM)
Are you able to bend forwards/backwards/sideways without pain? Lie flat on the floor and try to lift one leg, keeping it straight. Do the same with the other and then try both legs. If you feel any pain or a tingling sensation in your back or down your legs, stop immediately and if that's the case, you'd best get to a chiropractor as soon as you can.
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Only when I bend forwards have that pain..and I havent try lie flat on the floor as I'm stuck at the office..and I realized that it starts from bottom middle back onwards where it hurts the most..I'm in serious trouble am I?
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QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ Nov 29 2011, 09:30 PM)
Only when I bend forwards have that pain..and I havent try lie flat on the floor as I'm stuck at the office..and I realized that it starts from bottom middle back onwards where it hurts the most..I'm in serious trouble am I?
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I can't say anything definitely as I'm not qualified, I'm merely trying to troubleshoot your problem judging from my own experience. But what you can do for now is try not to bend over to pick anything up and be conscious of the way you're sitting as well as the length of time you're sitting for, ie don't sit for too long. Then get checked up at a chiropractic centre as soon as you can.

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