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Why now.., ..is not the right time to buy property Serious Talk
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TShazairi
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Sep 6 2011, 09:49 AM, updated 15y ago
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2010: Household loan growth in Malaysia accelerated to 12.5 per cent in May, while household loan applications and approvals remain elevated - which may provide a justification for one last hike to pre-empt further build-up of household leverage.
"Household debt at 77 per cent of GDP (gross domestic product) is now the highest in Asia, with debt service approaching half of household income, even before the OPR was raised.Read more: Malaysia likely to raise key rate: Economists http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz1X84DgS7R Look at the graph above. Household debt is increasing rapidly! And what will our BNM gonna do about it? Read here, the latest news: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...uyers-says-rhb/» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 5 — A change in the way mortgages are calculated might slash the amounts that the public can borrow for property purchases by as much as 37 per cent, said RHB Research Institute in a report today.
RHB said that the proposal to change the computation of property mortgages — to be based on net income rather than gross income — is currently on Bank Negara Malaysia’s table for consideration.
The change comes as the central bank attempts to reign in household debt that, as a percentage of gross domestic product, surged to a record high level in 2010 due to low interest rates and easy financing schemes.
As a percentage of GDP, Malaysia’s household debt increased from 66.7 per cent in 2004 to 76 per cent in 2009, which is uncomfortably close to the levels seen in the US prior to the 2008 financial crisis.
Household income is one of the key guidelines in credit evaluation for banks and mortgage instalments are now typically calculated at one-third of gross income.
A move to calculate mortgages based on net income could reduce the threshold for mortgage instalments and thus impact residential property prices.
RHB estimated that the proposed measure could lower affordability by 14-37 per cent and the impact would be most severe in the high-end segment.
“For example, assuming an individual’s gross monthly salary of RM5,000 and if mortgage is to be calculated on net pay basis, the house value that one can afford will be reduced to RM231,000 from RM300,000 (or RM277,000 from RM360,000), using the rule of thumb of 5x (or 6x) of gross salary per annum,” said RHB.
“If supply is to match with demand, it implies that prices will have to correct by a similar (or smaller) percentage for the supply to be absorbed, or developers will start to slow down their launches to limit the supply in the market.”
RHB added that apart from the calculation of household debt on net income basis, RPGT (real property gains tax) has also been speculated as one of the possible measures that the government may impose in the 2012 budget.
“We believe RPGT is a more meaningful measure to curb speculative purchases in the property market,” said RHB. “We expect, if it is to be imposed, the tax rate to revert to pre-April 1 2007 level or slightly lower.”
RPGT has been set at a five per cent flat rate for any properties disposed of within five years of purchase while prior to April 1 2007, it was 30 per cent for disposal within the first two years of purchase and progressively lower for disposal of properties in subsequent years.
RHB added that the recent sell down in equity markets is expected to increase economic fears and could also hit property buying sentiment.
It noted that in the 2008/2009 global economic slowdown, property sales stalled and fell 30-40 per cent year-on-year and prices dropped 10.6 per cent in Kuala Lumpur.
“As we only expect a slower economic growth, property sales and prices may experience some minor corrections of 5-10 per cent,” said RHB.
Putrajaya introduced a 70 per cent loan-to-value mortgage cap on third properties last year in response to complaints that property prices had spiralled out of control due to rampant speculation.
A housing affordability chart carried in the The Edge Financial Daily on August 15 showed that property prices had risen from 5.9 times income in 1989 to 10.9 times income in 2010.
The share of household loans to total bank loans in Malaysia, meanwhile, rose from 35.2 per cent in 2000 to 55.5 per cent in August 2010. The change comes as the central bank attempts to reign in household debt that, as a percentage of gross domestic product, surged to a record high level in 2010 due to low interest rates and easy financing schemes.And on the rule of thumb. What will happen when central bank reduce the amount of loans (by making it harder to make loan or higher the interest rate)? Read here: The domino effect of rising interest ratesThe first thing that will happen in this country when interest rates go up, as they eventually will, is that a huge percentage of homeowners won't be able to make the payments on their home. Their credit card payments are due, and those are higher, too (thanks to higher interest rates). Then their house payment comes due. They were paying $500 a month. Now they have to pay $1,000 a month because interest rates are 12 percent. What happens? They can't make the payment. What do they do? They sell the house, or they try to hang in there for a while until the house gets repossessed, and the bank sells it. Either way, the house is getting sold. The house then goes on the market, adding to the supply glut of homes for sale. It's not just this one family that's affected, because interest rates affect everyone. Suddenly, a large group of homeowners can't make the payments all at once.
So, what happens to the price of houses when, say, a mere 4 percent of all homeowners suddenly decide to sell their homes at the same time? Prices plummet, and they plummet so fast that all the people who own homes can't sell them quickly enough. The condo you paid $100,000 for is only worth $80,000, and then it's only worth $70,000, and then it's only worth $60,000, and it continues to drop. Your condo ends up being worth only half of what you paid. Now you owe $90,000 because you didn't sell it yet. You owe $90,000 on a condo that's only worth $50,000 because the housing market popped. The bubble burst.================================================= So guys, think twice before buying properties now.. This post has been edited by hazairi: Sep 6 2011, 09:51 AM
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StarScream01
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Sep 6 2011, 09:58 AM
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thx
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SUSStationMonkey
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Sep 6 2011, 10:00 AM
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This is for house only, no?
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Sethmaster
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Sep 6 2011, 10:02 AM
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thanks to bijan and his 'smart' economic moves, the bubble is already about the burst. I guarantee it will happen right after the next election, regardless of the winner
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gundamsp01
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Sep 6 2011, 10:02 AM
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seriously, i waiting for that to happen
even so, i have to wait for 5 - 6 years time to reach Rm100k mark, d*mn
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MyKy44
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Sep 6 2011, 10:08 AM
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thx for the info sharing
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kokokranc
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Sep 6 2011, 10:09 AM
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nutjib so pandai now. he will anounce soon GE.
after that for sure bubble burst. he escape.
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myone1015
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Sep 6 2011, 10:12 AM
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so when "GLCs" are selling their properties then we know it is The End...
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barista
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Sep 6 2011, 10:15 AM
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I wait for this day so that I can buy.
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lck*G9
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Sep 6 2011, 10:16 AM
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bubble only affects investors la... home buyers for own use while benefit if bubble really burst
anyway, if the bubble burst, your telor also will kecut... that time you will think of saving for the rainy days in case poop drop from sky...
so if you buy now you pay more if you buy after bubble burst, chances also you can't find one or your telor still kecut...
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Jasonist
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Sep 6 2011, 11:01 AM
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so for those who havent bought houses, lets wait for the bubble to burst and get cheap houses!
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TShazairi
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Sep 6 2011, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(lck*G9 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:16 AM) bubble only affects investors la... home buyers for own use while benefit if bubble really burst anyway, if the bubble burst, your telor also will kecut... that time you will think of saving for the rainy days in case poop drop from sky... so if you buy now you pay more if you buy after bubble burst, chances also you can't find one or your telor still kecut... the strategy is right now, pile up your cash as high as can. Rent cheap place to get more net income..
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ichi_24
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Sep 6 2011, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(Sethmaster @ Sep 6 2011, 10:02 AM) thanks to bijan and his 'smart' economic moves, the bubble is already about the burst. I guarantee it will happen right after the next election, regardless of the winner but i will smile hard when the bubble burst
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Flaming_lion
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Sep 6 2011, 12:09 PM
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LOL! Not applicable to Malaysia honestly.
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hondy_wave
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Sep 6 2011, 12:13 PM
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malaysia menuju ke arah kuasa besar dunia..
*corrected.. menuju ke arah kebankruptan..
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SUS4_for
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Sep 6 2011, 12:15 PM
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fuh, cybertrooper also now worried about housing.
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olman
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Sep 6 2011, 12:21 PM
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just pop it already,
it is high time to re-adjust the whole overly inflated mess.
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TShazairi
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Sep 6 2011, 12:33 PM
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Keep in mind on this statement:
As a percentage of GDP, Malaysia’s household debt increased from 66.7 per cent in 2004 to 76 per cent in 2009, which is uncomfortably close to the levels seen in the US prior to the 2008 financial crisis.
Looked what happened to US?
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gu~wak_zhai
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Sep 6 2011, 12:37 PM
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i'm waiting..
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lck*G9
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Sep 6 2011, 12:37 PM
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US has the biggest debt
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