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myone1015
post Sep 6 2011, 10:12 AM

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so when "GLCs" are selling their properties then we know it is The End...
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post Sep 6 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(kanabalize @ Sep 6 2011, 12:54 PM)
people are not that stupid to sell property for cheap because the ones with property are the one with steady income... so they can hold on to their property even if the bubble bursts....

If you want cheap house then pray for unemployment... but again it is a double edged sword isn't it...

Even during the 1998 economic crisis... the house prices kept on climbing...
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The question is hold on for how long? Every day just makan roti and air kosong since rental cannot cover the installment?

This time is different from 1998. The price up 50% in just a year.

And Najib don't have money to bail you out since goverment already overspent since 1998.
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post Sep 6 2011, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Sep 6 2011, 01:17 PM)
BNM is doing their best to minimize the casualties.
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ya right, 40 years loan period for 2 generation, low interest rate, minimal property gain tax - they are the one who allow the bubble getting big.
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post Sep 6 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(4_for @ Sep 6 2011, 01:47 PM)
Malaysia no property bubble, just high demand for good properties.
Demand high, cost also high lor.
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almost any junk properties including apartment, condo, landed in KV already appreciated > 50% within a year. this is not real demand.
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post Sep 6 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Flaming_lion @ Sep 6 2011, 02:07 PM)
In our case, property prices are high simply because of demand for properties. Everybody comes to KL to earn a better income. When everyone comes to KL to earn a better income, everybody wants to stay in KL. When that happens, isn't that increasing demand for properties? Demand goes up and up, while more and more people are moving into KL and Selangor. On top of it, old properties are being made way for newer high-rise properties.

If you say its a bubble, then you'll have to look at those rich people who own like huge numbers of low end and medium end properties. These people buy and sell therefore, inflating the prices of properties. Only then, I would say, its logical to call it a bubble. The problem with KL and Selangor is that, property prices are increasing more and more as more people are moving into KL and Selangor.

Just to prove the point, recently a corner lot near my house was sold for half a million. Its only 18 by 60 and its a double story. Heck, everytime I see a property for sale around my place, in just less than a week, the property would be sold. Interestingly, I don't see them as investors, but I see most of them are either newly weds or retired elders. Does this sound like a freaking bubble to you?  sad.gif
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I think you do not understand what a property bubble means. Someone has already provided the definition at this page.
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post Sep 6 2011, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 6 2011, 02:20 PM)
from the statement, ppl buying houses in less than a week...means economy still fine and lots of ppl still rich...
that means the price is still can be cope up with, no? so, how exactly it bursts?
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it could be ppl are scared that price will increase more and they pay > 40% of their salary just to own a house that they can't afford. when economy down, they will be forced to auction their house and if bank ask them to top up the difference, they might go bankcrupcy...

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post Sep 6 2011, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 6 2011, 02:42 PM)
not quite sure how's that work...mind to elaborate? means pay the remaining balance instead of following the schedule stated in the contract?
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let say b4 bubble burst, house worth 500k, loan granted by bank is 500k

after burst, house worth 300k

then owner default payment, bank auction the property for 300k.

the difference of loan given and auction price is, 500k - 300k = 200k.

bank ask owner to top up the 200k or more to recover their loss.

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owner no money but got another property worth 200k , fully paid up.

bank force owner to sell the property and take the 200k.

owner left with no money and no house.

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post Sep 6 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 03:07 PM)
where are people going to stay then? they can't rent, they can't even buy...
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they will build their own rumah papan
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post Sep 6 2011, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 03:22 PM)
this will only happen provided the owner is jobless and lazy...

and how will the bank force the owner to sell the 200k prop? with a gun? doh.gif
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bank might include the clause in the agreement.


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post Sep 6 2011, 03:41 PM

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it is getting serious as some deny it blindly.
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post Sep 6 2011, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 03:40 PM)
smart... you going to sign that agreement? doh.gif

loan fully repaid = no attachments to the bank, no? doh.gif
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it is the 500k loan la. you refuse to sign then no loan given lor. doh.gif
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post Sep 6 2011, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 03:40 PM)
smart... you going to sign that agreement? doh.gif

loan fully repaid = no attachments to the bank, no? doh.gif
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from http://www.hba.org.my/faq/on_housing_loans.htm

Q: What can the financial institution do if I do not make repayments?
A: If you fail to make three consecutive payments, the financial institution will take the necessary actions to recall the loan. In the worst case scenario, the financial institution will foreclose the property and sell it to settle the loan. The borrower would still be liable to pay the difference between the auction price and the loan amount outstanding. doh.gif
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post Sep 6 2011, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 03:41 PM)
in the sky? doh.gif
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somewhere near rawang doh.gif
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post Sep 6 2011, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 03:47 PM)
bro... you mentioned in your optional statement that the loan is fully repaid, then below that you added bank force the owner to sell, not logical right? doh.gif
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they force you to sell whatever you have la.
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:03 PM)
dude... read again what you wrote doh.gif
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I'm not talking about you, you no need butthurt
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:10 PM)
i know lar, but you go spread that kind of nonsense... beh tahan mar doh.gif
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it is nonsense only when you are butthurt
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post Sep 6 2011, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Sep 6 2011, 04:19 PM)
i nearly fall off my chair when you said the bank can force sale a property from an owner who doesn't owe the bank any loan rclxms.gif

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did i say that? go read and think again. stop acting like a brain damaged here.

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