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Flaming_lion
post Sep 6 2011, 12:09 PM

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LOL! Not applicable to Malaysia honestly.
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post Sep 6 2011, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(4_for @ Sep 6 2011, 12:15 PM)
fuh, cybertrooper also now worried about housing.
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He's not worried. He's optimistic about Malaysia's future. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(olman @ Sep 6 2011, 12:21 PM)
just pop it already,

it is high time to re-adjust the whole overly inflated mess.
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Its not a bubble to begin with.

QUOTE(double7 @ Sep 6 2011, 12:46 PM)
bubble burst then so many rushing to buy.. then price climb back again.. lol..
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There's no bubble.

QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Sep 6 2011, 01:03 PM)
will medium low cost apartments be affected?
sq ft 798, priced under RM100k

my dad selling such units near jusco rawang.

baru keluar CF a week before raya.
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LOL! Let me tell you what's going to happen. Richfag properties, harder to buy, richfags resort to low end and medium end properties AS INVESTMENTS. You'll see them grabbing 10-20 units of low cost apartments. Demand for low end and medium end properties increase. Poor and middle class people can't keep up. Poof... The same problem gets aggravated.

QUOTE(shaff @ Sep 6 2011, 01:32 PM)
good what bubble pop, we the younger generation can finally afford to buy house, and lets the fcking investor die with that bubble pop, we dont need em anymore. smile.gif
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Sir, I have tell you that there's no property bubble in Malaysia. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by Flaming_lion: Sep 6 2011, 01:41 PM
Flaming_lion
post Sep 6 2011, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 6 2011, 01:59 PM)
mind to tell why there is no bubble?

A real estate bubble or property bubble (or housing bubble for residential markets) is a type of economic bubble that occurs periodically in local or global real estate markets. It is characterized by rapid increases in valuations of real property such as housing until they reach unsustainable levels and then decline.

then i go to search google, and read some old news from the star, there is a bubble just that not reach its climax yet
source
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In our case, property prices are high simply because of demand for properties. Everybody comes to KL to earn a better income. When everyone comes to KL to earn a better income, everybody wants to stay in KL. When that happens, isn't that increasing demand for properties? Demand goes up and up, while more and more people are moving into KL and Selangor. On top of it, old properties are being made way for newer high-rise properties.

If you say its a bubble, then you'll have to look at those rich people who own like huge numbers of low end and medium end properties. These people buy and sell therefore, inflating the prices of properties. Only then, I would say, its logical to call it a bubble. The problem with KL and Selangor is that, property prices are increasing more and more as more people are moving into KL and Selangor.

Just to prove the point, recently a corner lot near my house was sold for half a million. Its only 18 by 60 and its a double story. Heck, everytime I see a property for sale around my place, in just less than a week, the property would be sold. Interestingly, I don't see them as investors, but I see most of them are either newly weds or retired elders. Does this sound like a freaking bubble to you? sad.gif

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post Sep 6 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(myone1015 @ Sep 6 2011, 02:14 PM)
I think you do not understand what a property bubble means. Someone has already provided the definition at this page.
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Nope.

QUOTE(cracksys @ Sep 6 2011, 02:16 PM)
bodoh ape. increase in price = price appreciation.

no matter what the cause, bubble is a bubble. there's no "price increase because demand is good" and "price increase because speculation is bad" side.
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LOL! Tell you what... You just wait, keep waiting for property prices to fall. Just sit and wait for it. Let's see how long before the "bubble" will burst. smile.gif

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 6 2011, 02:17 PM)
if so, even if there is an economy slowdown next year, it hardly impact on the housing industry since everyone is buying them for own property rather than selling them except maybe for those investors?
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By the looks of it, more and more people are buying properties in KL & Selangor because of the need to work in KL and Selangor. People are coming in from other states to look for better opportunities. Are you telling me that these people will live in huts as illegal squatters?

QUOTE(hazairi @ Sep 6 2011, 02:17 PM)
Can you take a look at the graphs given? Our household debt is at it's peak and these household debt is the one fueling the:

Just to prove the point, recently a corner lot near my house was sold for half a million. Its only 18 by 60 and its a double story. Heck, everytime I see a property for sale around my place, in just less than a week, the property would be sold. Interestingly, I don't see them as investors, but I see most of them are either newly weds or retired elders. Does this sound like a freaking bubble to you?

The statement above was exactly the same situation before US had their property bubble burst.. smile.gif
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In Malaysia, what did the government do? They told the banks to offer 30 year loans instead of 25 year loans. smile.gif

QUOTE(Xonius @ Sep 6 2011, 02:18 PM)
The property prices are sky rocketing at a pretty high rate, our GDP growth just couldn't catch up thus not that many can be sold as fast. So when there's a huge surplus with little demand, the prices are bound to drop.
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That's the worrying part.

QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 6 2011, 02:20 PM)
from the statement, ppl buying houses in less than a week...means economy still fine and lots of ppl still rich...
that means the price is still can be cope up with, no? so, how exactly it bursts?
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Years ago, you only needed a 10 year loan. Then it became 15, followed by 20 and so on... Today, we're talking about 25 to 35 years loan. That's how exactly we're coping. sad.gif

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