Aiseymen, these kinda of fighting that I'm afraid of. Fighting each other will not do us any good. We should combine our 'energy' to fight P2 not each other. Let go our differences and stick to what we have in common. If there are enough of us, P2 have no choice but to listen. That what happened when waja was first launched. Everybody knows how problematic the waja was. Waja community were strong in Autoworld forum that make P1, their MD and even their dealers have to make their appearences in the forum.

Autoworld forum still recognised by P1. The manufacturer of exora CVT (Punch power train) have their technical staff to answer all the questions post by exora owners. We need to have alza community as strong as in Autoworld forum. Myalza.com community is big (more than 3000 members), but not sure why they didnt speak out to P2. Most of them trying to solve the problem on their own. IMHO they should send rpresentatives to meet P2 management with list of problems and workout some kinda solutions.

This post has been edited by emkay: Jan 24 2013, 06:14 PM

Tell that to those buggers that have "perfect" cars... They have no business fighting P2. They don't even have the impressions of "sorry to hear that your car is problematic, I feel for you" kinda empathy, all they have is "stop the f***ing whine and live with it"... the usual bolehland's "tidak apa" attitude... That's why P2 don't give a damn...

And that's the reason why we have these kinda "whining" discussions. I bet AutoWorld have these kinda "whine" discussion enough to attract the attention of Proton, why can't we...? That's why I suggest tiensong to post on MyPerodua at the same time...

Should I go sulk about it and let P2 have all the fun making money and keep their customers at the losing end..? I rather have P2 sue me for whining and ruining their market.

Eithan, if you whine alone, I think P2 wont even care and let alone suing you. We need bigger group (like myalza.com), setup a commitee and organize a meeting with P2. I havent got the chance to look into Myalza thoroughly. To see their vision & mission.

Actually I do appreciate the efforts of MAOC (hereby MyAlza Owners Club) to address certain minor issues on their own, but now even with 3k people, it is still not enough to "make a dent" at P2, let alone solve major issues... P2 at this moment is just another entity that is hell bent on ripping off consumers with half-baked products... Just read complains on MyPerodua and you will know... How can one pass QC to a car when one bolt to the door is missing..? Imagine the danger it will cause should accidents happen.

You know what, im not going to say anything anymore. you manipulate what i said earlier, and try to mislead people by making them believe i said its a perfect car. I just saying some of my opinion at the beginning and you make fun with it with your excessive hand palm face icon. Yea nice way to get respect.

This post has been edited by Volt: Jan 24 2013, 08:14 PM

It is not my attempt to manipulate your word or mislead people with your word. Humans are imperfect, please emphasise on the word IMPERFECT. Thus human creation, including cars are IMPERFECT. You admitted it, the car is NOT PERFECT (I'm quoting you word by word), yes, all cars are IMPERFECT. And since you tied perfection to quality, Alza is unfortunately not IMPERFECT. It's far from it. It's a DISASTER - Shockingly bad QC.

Let me ask you this, how can you justify a 60k car with a DISASTROUS QC to be good...? A car that gets stranded in the SC every now and then, only to be tested and abused yet again in the SC (a combined 2 months in my case). A car that has the potential to kill other road users with a self-ejecting spare tyre. A car that has the potential to drive you through road rage or prolonged drowsiness with insanely poor NVH (I can vouch MyVis are better). A car that has the probability of a gearbox failure out-of-warranty that can burn a hole in your pocket to replace. A car with whatever shitty problems that are listed on the very first post of this thread.

Put it this way, I have 2 MyVis, cost 49k each. They are imperfect cars yes, but not disastrous. They gave me and my family very little trouble. Some will definitely say 49k for a k-car is overpriced, true, since we have a rather skewed auto-industry that favors protectionism. 49k for an imperfect car is rather OK I might add.

But Alza is 60k, and it's Perodua's flagship model... They are not borrowing new (and perhaps unreliable) technology like those European marques like most people in FnF championed about. It's Toyota and Daihatsu for god sake. Yet I have more problems with my Alza than the 2 MyVis combined. Put yourself in my shoe, and indeed the rest of those owners with problematic Alzas, is this good...?

chill guys. fighting among us wont yield anything. we are all here to share and care.

annndd...question for today: will tapping the wire eg. skin off some ori wire and tap 3rd party wires onto it void warranty? not cutting it though, just cut off the surface skins to make contact point with additional wires.

thanks!

It will definitely void warranty. If something goes wrong you won't be able to claim anything. Not even consumer tribunal can help you.

oh then if wanna claim have to cover up a bit lo? haha...remove all the mods and what not.

Tapping wires like that, does it even risk a short circuit..? Remember the alza is a kereta mudah terbakar...

Actually the best person or best party to tell you whether warranty is still intact or not is.... LYN forum, where none of us works in P2 SC.

Already cut of wire skin for my steering HU control/ reviser camera / additional reflector LED for 1 year ++

if you cut major one like battery terminal ... hehe. sure they will see it

welp, update guys. i just asked the SA and some technical ppl they said if they wanna be strict it will be voided. however if the mod minimal and cable use proper one should be okay, can talk things out. lol.

That's why I said that it's OK if nothing goes wrong. Once things messed up you are on your own. Simple things as making the aircon water hose longer they have to wait for instruction from HQ. Changing your standard rim to other will void the warranty.

have to build my relationship with the technical ppl then. lol...

Havw anyone tried the bluetooth. I tried it but it only work ok when answering call. Tried making call via but the other side couldnt hear my voice. Any ideas?

It's ok here both sides, but the problem is the speaker voice is the too soft despite maxing out at volume 25... On highway, road noise is hell, so it's practically unusable... my nokia E71 pairs fine, but doesn't work on iPhones nor iPod touches... Highlighted this problem to Perodua, but they refer me to supplier Betamek in Rawang instead... Die lor if owner ain't from Klang Valley...

Give all those "grandiose" features all half-baked one.... I for one would like to know if my airbag's in working condition...

Bluetooth no problem with my motorola 2 units for 6 months. later change to OEM D.DIn already. so far ok with bluetooth.

the Ori HU still keep on top of cupboard

There is no problem when I tried it with SE K810i (calling and receiving call). Funny thing is that, in the user manual stated that the usage of bluetooth is only for receiving call.

WTH? But how come it work fine when I use SE K810i to make call?

This post has been edited by emkay: Jan 27 2013, 11:42 AM

Hi All,

Just received my Alza last week, so far no problem yet n like to drive it.
but there is a matter that question me, my car doesn't have brake lock (mcm myvi saya bila tekan brek je terus lock semua pintu), SA told me that ALL NEW CAR 2013 batch do not have a brake lock function due to JPJ dah tak bagi dah kat all car manufacturer untuk ada brake lock.. Is it true ar?