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Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona 2011/12, Goodbye Keiteeee!!

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post Jan 19 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(sliqueliques @ Jan 18 2012, 10:24 PM)
hope we can win again at madrid.. btw why pinto will start? izzit v.v injured?
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Dude!
Pinto has always played the Copa matches.
Be it in a match against a 4th division team or in a final against Madrid.
He is the GK no matter what.


Added on January 19, 2012, 12:50 amI've always maintained that I don't really care about this Cup and I still stand by it. Not hoping that we lose but it will be a blessing in disguise.

Our team is already small and our front line is thin and now Affelay, Pedro and Villa are out. It's really pushing the limits.
How long can we rely Cesc to bang in the goals from midfield?
Sanchez is not really a goal scorer and Cuenca is a winger from the B team.

One day Mourinho is going to get the better of our beloved Pep and I prefer it to be in Copa. And then the world media and anti-fans can start claiming that Mourinho is better than Pep again until we meet again in the CL and beat them again in the Camp Nou.

But knowing Pep and the players, they are still hungry for titles and they will fight til death for it.

Was really happy to see ESPN News showing clips of Arbeloa elbowing and then standing on Villa's leg.
Usually on youtube or other news they only show the clip from the point where Arbeloa and Ramos pull Villa up like a doll resulting in the people who didn't watch the full clip or the match thinking that Villa was play acting.


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post Jan 19 2012, 12:31 PM

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I'm so glad that they kept showing the replays of the dirty acts by madrid players so that the haters can see it for themselves.

In the past, the broadcast just let it slip.
All those incidences with Pedro, Villa just to name a few.
But this time, they kept on replaying it so that the people understand what's going on.
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post Jan 19 2012, 02:53 PM

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I already knew that it was deliberate even before seeing one replay because

1) This is not the first time Pepe or the EE players did something dirty off-the ball. They've been doing it more than a handful of times in the past but it was never caught properly on camera as the producers missed it thus not showing any replay.
2) Why was his step so short? Just a foot long? That is not a proper footstep.

I am so glad that this broadcast which Im sure you guys were watching the same one except with different commentaries, kept showing replays of certain incidents which were most by Madrid players.
Hopefully now the anti-Barca fans can see why sometimes Barca players roll around on the floor because most of the times they do get hit in an off-the ball incident.
They get kicked, pulled, elbowed, tripped etc. but most of the football fans either ignore it or they didn't really follow what happens on the field as they just follow the ball.

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post Jan 19 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(99killer @ Jan 19 2012, 07:44 PM)
i didn't say that i support pepe brutality or coentrao discipline problem (he punched messi's head)
i hate it, the play acting is stupid... it ruined barca reputation
n u should accept the fact that your team play dirty. u despised what pepe did but your team also did what he did. you r like pot calling kettle black.  icon_idea.gif
even if barca win the UCl again, i won't be impressed at all... "oh, they win the UCl... but they play dirty... what a shame"
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1) Please for the love of God explain to me what the Barca players did that was so dirty?

2) Who cares whether you're impressed or not.. laugh.gif
Go back to facebook and collect likes

This Barca team is already lauded as one of the best in the history. They don't need your approval or your respect laugh.gif

Does anyone remember the Inter Milan team that won the CL a couple of seasons ago?
Does any football legend talk about them?


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post Jan 20 2012, 12:23 PM

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I'm waiting for you again 99bieberkiller.
It was a pleasure to have you here.
Just too bad you couldn't answer my questions properly.

That Pepe apology was jsut a PR thing.
Hurting a colleague?
Please. It's not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th time he's done crazy things.

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post Jan 21 2012, 01:15 AM

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Another way for Pepe to be suspended is if Barca lodge a complaint but they already said they wouldn't. Haih.

I find the rules in the Spanish FA or any other really of stone age.
1) The referee obviously can't see everything and if he didn't see it in the 1st place, how can he include it in his report.
2) Barcelona is obviously don't want to be un-gentlemanlike and lodge a complaint. If they would, it would look awkward.

We are in the 21st century, why can't FIFA make use of the technology.
I'm not even talking about video technology.
I'm just talking about simple things such as the incident with Pepe.
It is obvious for everyone to see. Hundreds of millions saw the incident.
Why can't they take action?

FIFA needs to take a look at the American sports and learn something from it. Im not talking about the continuous breaks but Im talking about the rules and regulations and the use of video technology.

So sick of seeing fouls go un punished, goals being disallowed, imaginary offsides etc.
The human errors or the unintentional error cost millions!
It's time to stop it!
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post Jan 21 2012, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ Jan 21 2012, 01:21 AM)
Guys I won't be updating this thread for sometime, as I will be goin outstation for next 2-3 weeks. Good luck at getting trolled biggrin.gif
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See you!
Will miss your good comments.

After the reading the first part, I thought you were gonna take a break from this thread cos I thought you were too upset.
Cause I've never seen you replying to comments in such a way.
Anyways, see you soon.
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post Jan 26 2012, 03:12 PM

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What is this with the Madrid should have won the game???!!!
The better team doesn't always win.

Madrid once again played to their full potential but still can't beat us.
Not in the Supercup not in Copa del Rey.

I don't know why many Madrid fans are saying that the ref helped us.
-Didn't he save Lass Diara from getting a red?
-Didn't he save them a penalty (the first Pepe push, not the one where Alexis injured himself after falling on his shoulder) ?
-Yes, the ball hit Abidal's hand but the ball was always gonna go wide.
-Yes the ball did hit Busquets but his arm was stuck to his body.
-No way was that charge by Puyol a penalty, if yes, then Pepe would've been sent off a long time ago from his two similar charges on Alexis.

-Why on earth was Ramos sent-off? That didn't deserve a yellow but then again, why didn't he protest at all?

And.....

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post Jan 27 2012, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jan 27 2012, 12:49 PM)
I'm sorry, why lately so many barca fans love to invade the RM trade with the overlong explaination? haizz.. u already won.congratulation what.
claim Pep is cool but some <not all> not cool still want to explain this and that.

we admit it.
even if we complaint abt the ref, we complaint it on our own thread.not like we're here "hey u won because of ref boleh la"
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You guys need to stop blaming the ref all the time.
And I wasn't spamming you guys or anything.
Just trying to explain things.
Sometimes it is okay to get opinions from someone outside the circle ya know.

One guy starts the wild accusation and next thing you know, 99% of the fans there will think that you guys always cant get the better of us because of the refs. That mind set has to go.

The worst part is that the non-Madrid or Barca fans also start to believe in it.

And yeah back to you.
At least I make my arguments without adding any insults, be it directly or subliminal.
Let's argue normally.
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post Jan 28 2012, 12:18 AM

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Mourinho’s spokesperson – “What’s changed since he [Dani Alves] came to Spain. He’s undergone surgery on his ears, they’ve become smaller. And he’s wearing glasses like an intellectual. However, a donkey with small ears and glasses is not all of a sudden a doctor, he’s still a donkey,” Parames said on Twitter.

“I’ve already said it before. When Barcelona play well, they’re winning. If their opponents play better than them, the referee will help them to win.”

Parames than went on to reveal what Jose Mourinho said to referee Teixeira Vitienes in the parking area after Wednesday’s game.

“You have no respect for professionals. You’re going to smoke a cigar now and have a good laugh, you b*****d,” Mourinho said, according to his spokesman.

It is sad that the best club of the 20th century has gone to this level.
I wonder what Alfredo di Stefano, Zidane, Raul, Hierro & Guti thinks of this.

Perez is letting Mourinho destroy Madrid's image.
What's going to happen when one day Mourinho leaves?

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post Jan 28 2012, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 28 2012, 12:55 AM)
hurm the sos is from goal.com aka lol.com know for their fake/lie/made up fact  hmm.gif  .. im not really sure if all those above said is true, but if it does, mourinho is something.. shocking.gif
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bro, clear ur inbox, cant reply ur pm hahaha
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It is on twitter.
And BS.com took it from there.

https://twitter.com/realeladio

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realeladio Eládio Paramés
mas um burro mesmo de orelhas pequenas e de oculos nao passa a ser um doutor, continua a ser um burro!
27 Jan
This is Alves' classy reply.
Really classy not to get involved in these childish playground war.

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post Jan 30 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jan 30 2012, 08:04 PM)
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You guys need to stop blaming the ref all the time.


please eat back your own words http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/...rrogant-la-liga
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Hmmm did you read the sentence properly or not?
Look at the bolded words.
And did I say that Barca never complained?
That line that I wrote was in the context of RM always complaining to the ref whenever they play against us.

And back to the Barca players complaining.
Don't you think they have a right to complain after many blatant fouls in the penalty area not called >5 times this season alone?

I find it quite flattering that you remember that particular line and come back here to demand something from me.
Now it's my time to demand you to answer all my questions pointed towards you last week.
Fair?


Added on January 30, 2012, 10:24 pm
QUOTE(miccy @ Jan 30 2012, 04:26 PM)
Barcelona presses are known for spreading propaganda and hate towards RM, but for Mou's spokesperson not so sure..
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Same goes for the Madrid media.
They're both the same.

But in this case, it's on Twitter for heaven's sake!!
It's for everyone to see or should I say read and translate.

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post Jan 31 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jan 30 2012, 10:53 PM)
1. Let me remind you it was Mou (Chelsea, Madrid, Inter), Hiddink (Chelsea), Wenger (Arsenal) who complained the same thing.

2. Why compare about all these 9872323 fouls in the penalty area in the whole season AFTER dropping 2 points? hmm.gif

no offence to the others.
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1. I dont know where you're getting at.
If you could clarify it...

2. Why complain? As I said, they're sick of it. They tried to take the moral high ground by keeping quiet and not wanting to blame the referees but they had it enough.

That said, I don't support their actions though.
They should follow Pep's refusal to blame on 3rd parties.
Just stating why they complained.


Added on January 31, 2012, 2:13 pm
QUOTE(miccy @ Jan 31 2012, 12:58 AM)
Yeah, the Madrid media who Mou said tried to create divisions and conflicts at RM. And i don't even see AS or Marca spread Anti-Barcelona propagandas?

And for Eladio Paramés, that's his personal view. I'm sure even RM officials won't approve his statement.
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Please.....
You're either acting as if you don't know and denying that AS or Marca publish negative rumors about Barca or
you're pretty new in this.

Please don't do this.
AS & Marca is the same to Madrid what EMD & Sport is to Barca.
They're the unofficial mouthpieces of the clubs.

Remember Villarato?
Remember Pep having a beef with the editor of Marca or AS (cant remember, it was last season).

FYI, just because they're Barca or Madrid friendly doesn't mean that they won't attack their respective clubs.
Just a few days ago, Sport or EMD published a story, a negative one that is about Xavi calling Madrid players sore losers.
They want and need to sell papers.
That's their mission!!


And for Mourinho's PA's donkey saga, it is from Mourinho's aides.
Perez looks scared of Mourinho.


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post Mar 19 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(sepulse @ Mar 18 2012, 09:29 PM)
messi goal vs sevilla



he make it look easy.  notworthy.gif
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The number of times he scores by chipping the goalkeeper this season is more than Torres & Carroll scored at their respective clubs.

The funny thing is that before the match I was watching a Messi chips video on youtube.
Amazing player.
We are so incredibly lucky!

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post Mar 24 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(maf1a @ Mar 24 2012, 02:08 AM)
guys verdict for the real madrid ban is out
pepe and rui faria:2 game ban
mourinho and ozil:1 game ban
ramos:spanish fa decided to give him a yellow card
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Mourinho is banned 1 match for the red card but he should also be fined for disrespecting the media for not turning up for the post match conference.

Why can Madrid players get away with so much???
It's not just the refs but also the incompetent Spanish FA.
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post Apr 5 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Apr 5 2012, 10:12 PM)
what a lucky *******, i wish to be in your place. i'm hoping to enjoy a good match, but always end up getting screwed by the officials. Or maybe u meant play acting and bad refereeing is part of a good match isn't it? i could understand your ignorance in that case.
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a foul is a foul.
so because a foul (tackle or whatever) is done by an opposing team, the ref should let it go unpunished is it?
why? because they are barca?
why dont you ask pepe, ramos, nesta, etc. why they commited the foul in the first place when they are professional footballers.
they know the rules of the game better than us.

it is not barca's fault that they get fouled.
you have to understand, the opposing players commit a foul
so what is the ref supposed to do?

listen. this is the same shit as in 2009 vs chelsea.
NOBODY talks about the 1st leg where barca had 2 legit penalties but were not given.
barca didnt complain. nobody made a big deal out of it.

take out the penalties out of the equation.
barca still had the better chance to go through because they dominated the match and had more chances to score.

why do people always want to comment on the ref's decision instead of the game it self?


Added on April 5, 2012, 10:20 pm
QUOTE(radio_head @ Apr 4 2012, 11:43 PM)
well, diving is an individual thing.....when ronaldo wants to dive due to minimal contact, what can fergie do?

but having a training session for it......

means the coaching staff and players all agree to it...

thats pushing it yo. even the most hardcore barce fans admitted it when this video surfaced.

facts are facts. facts on video lagi teruk. facts on video DURING "training"...that one up to you to interpret la

dont know why you so butthurt...if hardcore barce fans in spain actually concede ground on this, i dont know how u can defend lor

smells like glory hunting spirit.
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you seriously think it was legit?
man... you believe everything you see dont you?


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post Apr 5 2012, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(annalies @ Apr 5 2012, 10:22 PM)
why u so butthurt. sad loserrrrr la this chelsea fan. dont talk sh#t here. get lost please. barcelona cant wait to trash ur overrated n lousy team. ok.
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chelsea is not lousy at all especially now that they have a boost of confidence.
they have improved by leaps and bounds eversince AVB got the boot.

And the players feel like they were hard done (which is taking the easy way out, they know they should've beaten barca but they didnt, they didnt take their chances and were very lucky with the decisions from the 1st leg, 2 penalties turned down and abidal red card at stamford bridge so they ride) 3 years ago so they have revenge on their minds.

chelsea is a very physical team.
similar to inter.
they can seriously stop our attack.
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QUOTE(MrFay @ Apr 6 2012, 03:10 PM)
seedorf's contract gonna end at the end of this season..sad to see him leave the club  sad.gif
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Hope he goes back to Ajax but then again, he is still too good for Ajax.
So I hope he goes to a mid level team in Seria A or La Liga.
And then go back to Ajax.

I wonder what ever happened to his lilttle brother.
It didn't work out for him at Ajax and then he disappeared of the radar.
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Apr 8 2012, 05:22 AM)
The match was kinda exciting until the Zaragoza fellow got sent off, both yellow cards were nonsense, very immature of him.
But, Zaragoza seem to play better when they didn't score. They connected well and secured the possession and utilize it better whenever they got the chance.

After the red card, it became rather one sided but props to messi and co. for adapting the absence of Busi, Xavi and Iniesta although they could have scored more.

Barca moved to the opponents half much faster with Thiago playing as their DM. This is related to why Zaragoza were allowed to attack Barcelona and seemed to cause Valdes a lot of troubles earlier (6/9 shots for a team with overall possession of 28% is an impressive feat)

If Busi was around most probably they'll linger in their own half before Xavi takes the ball and shift it to the opponent's area. This will invite Zaragoza's forward to move higher up the pitch and indirectly placed them farther from their MF and Zaragoza will most probably have a hard time to connect well when they counter Barca.

Also without that trio in MF, Barca were more direct and as a result, you can see a lot of through balls from the middle of the pitch. (A lot of great through balls, kinda love the match just for that reason tongue.gif)

Montoya deserves a shout out because given the score, he's not under real pressure or whatever but, I'm surprised by how serious he took all the challenges and was quite sharp at it too.

All in all, great win for Barca and I guess Pep must be very happy to have all his players free from injury after having to go through all the heavy challenges from Zaragoza players (they were well known for that).
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Thiago and Cesc are more direct.
Can't wait to have Villa back to make diagonal runs.
Xavi and Iniesta hold the ball for too long.
They are too focused in keeping possession.
Sometimes we gotta take risks.

I've noticed your comments for a while now.
Since you are a calm Madrid fan on this board, I would like to ask you a few questions.

What do you make of Pepe's latest gaffe?
He could've seriously injure Arbeloa there.
Are the Madrid fans on your side still behind him or are you guys sick of him?

And what do you think of Pepe, Ronaldo, Di Maria and Ozil dives?
I don't mean from the Valencia match but in general because they are serial offenders as well but don't seem to get noticed by the
non-La Liga fans.

Do you find it fair that Busi and Alves are always singled out from our team although there are 4-5 from Madrid who do it more consistently?
Just look at Ronaldo's and Ozil's dives to get a penalty vs. Valencia.
They were horrendous.
Now imagine if it was done by a Barca player.
The media will be all over it.

What do you think?
Cheers


Added on April 9, 2012, 1:35 pm
QUOTE(fwhoam @ Apr 9 2012, 05:39 AM)
if they drop anymore point, the league is surely ours. rclxm9.gif
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Don't take things for granted.
It is really dangerous to assume that we will beat them at the Camp Nou although I do believe
it can be done.
It just depends on Mourinho's tactics.
Does he want to defend his 4point (or whatever) lead or does he want to extend the lead?

If he wants to defend the lead, they will be tough to beat s they will be parking a bus and counter attack.
If he wants to extend the lead, it will be an open game.
Lot's of leaks in defence.

And even if we win, they still have to drop one more point.


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post Apr 10 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Apr 10 2012, 06:01 AM)
Ok, I hate his antics but I will always want him in my squad because of his defensive qualities. His latest, previous or maybe in future pathetic acts will never get my support. But that's me, I can't speak for all Madridistas out there.
Personally, I wish for them to avoid the acts, but being a semi-pro footballer myself, I can actually understand the reason behind SOME (not all) of the dives. Usually the more flamboyant and skillful you are, the harder the tackle you'll face, the more frustrated you'll get and you'll start to lose your patience.
So, in order to prevent from losing patience, a player will choose to dive, to get the referee start a foul count on the opponent players. It's a type of defense mechanism. 

Second of all, some of the players didn't possess a strong physique. So, (sometimes) it's understandable how a weaker player would easily fall when he's pushed by a stronger opposition player.

Some of them, tripped their own leg and fall. tongue.gif

Of all three situations given above, it only become ridiculous if any of the players attempts to get the best out of their dive.

Wait a minute, are you suggesting that Busi's and Dani's (or any of the Barca player's) dive were not ridiculous? So, you're saying that you are ok with them diving no matter how ludicrous it is as long as they are doing it less than Ronaldo and Co?

For me, it depends on the situation. If it's (the dive) looks like the one a player should do to protect his legs against a nasty tackler, then I simply won't mind. But, like I said before if a player attempts to milk from a soft challenge (of course, I'll be the judge for the degree of the challenge tongue.gif), then it's ridiculous in my book.
So, taking my way of judging the situation, it doesn't matter who did it, Barca or Madrid, a ridiculous dive is a ridiculous dive and deserves to be hated. smile.gif

You guys already know that these players are constant divers, yes? So why waste your time on discussing how ridiculous they're doing it? It'll get even more ridiculous in future so, don't sweat about it  laugh.gif 
Also, I like to address another funny thing that football fans didn't realize. By posting/discussing/bashing the silly acts the players did on the pitch, most of us are actually doing the media job unofficially. Less of us want to talk/learn about the tactics/strategy/or anything regarding the football itself. Bashing once in a while is fine (hey, I'm no saint and making fun of your opponent is part of the deal, right?  laugh.gif ), but I have less respect for a person who's post is mostly about bashing other team's player and less about the football itself. I'm not talking about you, I'm saying this generally smile.gif
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Ahem ahem.
That's what I thought was the reason why some of the Barca players milked a few challenges during el Clasico last season because
they were always on the receiving end of constant off the ball niggling and hard tackles.

The thing is a player like Pepe has a strong physique.
I don't really count that as an excuse.

Oh no. I planted both hands on my face whenever like the time when Busi did a peek-a-boo or when Pedro acted last season at Madrid.
I don't condone their actions at all.

Di Maria used to this a lot last season where he would just throw his body on the ground, either to get a penalty or simply a free kick.
Now Ozil is up to it as well.
This offence is to me worse than milking a challenge, like what Busi used to do on a handful of occassions in his whole career and like what happened to Pepe vs. Valencia (it was a tackle, i dont understand why people say it's a dive).
Or another example is Bale a couple of weeks ago and then one guy from Newcastle last week and this week Ashley Young.

But none of them get the kind of exposure that Barca gets.
And this will forever be at the back of the people's mind.
A great team but full of divers even though that it totally incorrect.

You said you play semi-pro.
Where? In Malaysia?

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