Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona 2011/12, Goodbye Keiteeee!!
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 May 1 2012, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ Apr 30 2012, 01:10 PM) I do like VV more than Pinto. Pinto at times is abit clumsy. However, VV is not a good goalkeeper IMO. Yes. Exactly. Barcelona needs a world class goalkeeper, a world class centre back to partner Pique and to replace the aging Puyol and maybe a new left back and right back. Alves isn't exactly a right back and Abidal also getting old. Rumoured we are interested in Alba. |
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May 1 2012, 02:41 AM
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Jordi alba will be a good buy IMO.. to replace abidal.. CB? maybe coz puyol is indeed ageing, he is still composed and strong against most opponents, along with impeccable and precise tackling and positioning.. but against real/chelsea his pace let him down (it deeply saddens me to say this about el capitan) and were at least partly at fault for the goals conceded.. But i realize that Pique-Puyol partnership is really strong, as we saw in the first quarter of the chelsea 2nd leg.. One provides aerial strength and speed while the other promotes discipline, positioning and focus (where pique sometimes loses focus).. So if pique is playing, puyol is is best partner.. But we still need a cb in case puyol is injured coz pique-masch partnership spells trouble, and if abidal does not return, we really only have 2 and a half real centre backs.. (masch is half if u ask me) We are too thin in defense!!!!!! Other than that i think our midfield area and offensive end is good enough, as cesc, alexis, thiago, afellay should continue to improve.
Added on May 1, 2012, 2:47 am QUOTE(firmup @ Apr 29 2012, 11:22 PM) Hello guys, can you guys help me to fill in this simple questionnaire..? I've done it.. Good luck to whatever study u're doing.It would cost your 3minutes max only. The questionnaire is about football. Hope you all may help me out..  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewfor...Y2ZjYmUzMzk&ifq Thanks in advance..god bless you all.. Added on May 1, 2012, 2:59 amAnother good article by phil BALL This post has been edited by myhotgary2: May 1 2012, 02:59 AM |
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May 1 2012, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(pokwang @ Apr 29 2012, 07:23 AM) Now if you analyze back Chelsea's games, you'll find that they consistently employ 4-5-1 throughout the first leg and the first half of second leg, even though they look extremely flattened due to Barca's tiki-taka style. For me, this is regular defensive counter-attacking formation because the it indicates they DID NOT ABANDON they're intention of scoring, there's always a target man upfront. Only in the second half did they revert to 6-3-0, with Drogba moving to LB(!) and Kalou to RB to form a 6 men defense. This signified that the have ABANDONED goal-scoring completely, hence Parking The Bus. Inter did the exact same thing with Eto'o moving to LB.So, I'd like to know your definition of PTB. Some you say that Chelsea PTB'ed throughout both leg, so what is you justification for saying that? I like to hear your thoughts. Added on April 29, 2012, 7:27 am If there's 9 players in the defensive line, that would be 9-0-1 or 9-1-0. A 4-5-1 is a 4-5-1. Added on May 1, 2012, 12:37 pm QUOTE(Adryan @ Apr 30 2012, 01:01 AM) But I have to say it's a good time for Pep to step down. The last four years have been particularly taxing and he has formed arguably the greatest footballing side the world has ever seen. True..He may have lost the Champions League and La Liga in a space of a less than a week but he's won alot more before. Probably Barcelona's own Bob Paisley. Never lost a European Cup final when he made it there. He departs on a high, something like Nakata. Imagine if he stays in the job longer and he is expected to maintain the level which they have shown in the last four years, for many more years. Born in Barca, grew up in La Masia, played for Barca and managed Barca. It's practically every Barcelona kid's dream to do that. ..in over 120 years of Barca’s history, this is the first time that a coach leaves us without the fans wanting him to leave,” He was a freaking ball boy and look where he is now  Added on May 1, 2012, 12:42 pm QUOTE(Adryan @ Apr 30 2012, 06:11 AM) Fcking amazing player Messi is. The thing with Messi is that a ;2 goals and I think 3 assists? That puts him on 65 goals for the season, 2 behind Gerd Muller and 3 to break that record, which I really hope he does and he has 4 games less because I doubt he'll be able to reach that amount next season. (though he looks to be getting better and better!) - bulk of goals are pure genius - 1/5 is a goal of the season contender - his assists are defence splitting through the eye of the needle kind of passes It is amazing. Just look at his recent assist to Keita. Added on May 1, 2012, 12:48 pm QUOTE(Adryan @ May 1 2012, 01:59 AM) Yes. Exactly. Alves can be a traditional RB if the coach instructs him to depending on the tactic eg. Madrid this season in order to keep CR7 in check.Barcelona needs a world class goalkeeper, a world class centre back to partner Pique and to replace the aging Puyol and maybe a new left back and right back. Alves isn't exactly a right back and Abidal also getting old. Rumoured we are interested in Alba. But most of the times he is not needed at RB as he is instructed to join the attack to be an additional outlet on the right wing. This post has been edited by barca96: May 1 2012, 12:48 PM |
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May 1 2012, 02:59 PM
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that assist.
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May 1 2012, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 1 2012, 01:59 AM) Barcelona needs a world class goalkeeper, a world class centre back to partner Pique and to replace the aging Puyol and maybe a new left back and right back. Of all transfers you suggested there the most unlikely one is a world class goalkeeper. Valdes confirmed here to stay. This post has been edited by matyrze: May 1 2012, 03:47 PM |
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May 1 2012, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(barca96 @ May 1 2012, 12:32 PM) Inter did the exact same thing with Eto'o moving to LB. Messi is certainly an amazing player. I've never seen anyone play quite like him. He has very good anticipation and decision making. He knows what to do (when to dribble, when to pass, which technique to use to score) at the right moment and 99% of the time, he gets them right. I think that's what make him really, really good. He hardly misses when he gets a chance to score.Added on May 1, 2012, 12:37 pm True.. ..in over 120 years of Barca’s history, this is the first time that a coach leaves us without the fans wanting him to leave,” He was a freaking ball boy and look where he is now Added on May 1, 2012, 12:42 pm The thing with Messi is that a ; - bulk of goals are pure genius - 1/5 is a goal of the season contender - his assists are defence splitting through the eye of the needle kind of passes It is amazing. Just look at his recent assist to Keita. Added on May 1, 2012, 12:48 pm Alves can be a traditional RB if the coach instructs him to depending on the tactic eg. Madrid this season in order to keep CR7 in check. But most of the times he is not needed at RB as he is instructed to join the attack to be an additional outlet on the right wing. That is why I disagree that Ronaldo is a better player. I watched the Bayern-Real Madrid game and other than scoring twice, Ronaldo didn't do anything else much. Messi may rack up alot of goals but he's also played a part in probably 25-30 other goals. Wikipedia says he has 28 assists and that leads to 93 goals he has either scored or contributed directly. There's also ones he was the pre-assister. Furthermore, I think Ronaldo has taken alot more penalty kicks than Messi. Almost 100 goals contributed by Leo and it's not even Barca's best season. Yup, I guess it depends how Barcelona wants to play, they are more of an attacking side so Alves has the tendency to attack more. You know, I actually met him  Got a photo with him but he wasn't smiling, lol!!QUOTE(matyrze @ May 1 2012, 03:46 PM) Of all transfers you suggested there the most unlikely one is a world class goalkeeper. Valdes confirmed here to stay. Yeah, I don't expect Valdes to be sold but I've seen him play, he's good but he's not on the same level as Casillas but I guess not many keepers actually match Casillas' level. I remember how he gives the ball away so easily sometimes. Just my opinion, though.This post has been edited by Adryan: May 1 2012, 05:47 PM |
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May 1 2012, 06:29 PM
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Picture pls Adryan
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May 1 2012, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ May 1 2012, 06:29 PM) Picture pls Adryan I don't wanna show my face so ... here it is XDThis post has been edited by Adryan: May 1 2012, 06:45 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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May 1 2012, 07:16 PM
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where and when you meet him? lucky you.
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May 1 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(ahaksz28 @ May 1 2012, 07:16 PM) where and when you meet him? lucky you. It was at Manchester Airport around October 2010... the whole Brazillian football squad was there!! No Kaka though. But I only managed to take a picture with Alves and Pato. I wanted to meet Lucas (Liverpool)  At first in Dubai and in Manchester .. I thought they were just some Brazillian school kids (they were all wearing tracksuits) ... until I saw one guy's bag .. it had a Robinho tag. Then I look at his face ... o.0 IT WAS ROBINHO!! It was actually hard to recognise them because they look alot smaller in real life. And the funny thing is ... both Pato and Alves scored in the 2-0 friendly win over Ukraine which they played in England (that's why they were in Manchester airport). |
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May 1 2012, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 1 2012, 05:43 PM) Messi is certainly an amazing player. I've never seen anyone play quite like him. He has very good anticipation and decision making. He knows what to do (when to dribble, when to pass, which technique to use to score) at the right moment and 99% of the time, he gets them right. I think that's what make him really, really good. He hardly misses when he gets a chance to score. Messi = playmaker + attacker.That is why I disagree that Ronaldo is a better player. I watched the Bayern-Real Madrid game and other than scoring twice, Ronaldo didn't do anything else much. Messi may rack up alot of goals but he's also played a part in probably 25-30 other goals. Wikipedia says he has 28 assists and that leads to 93 goals he has either scored or contributed directly. There's also ones he was the pre-assister. Furthermore, I think Ronaldo has taken alot more penalty kicks than Messi. Almost 100 goals contributed by Leo and it's not even Barca's best season. Yup, I guess it depends how Barcelona wants to play, they are more of an attacking side so Alves has the tendency to attack more. You know, I actually met him Got a photo with him but he wasn't smiling, lol!!Yeah, I don't expect Valdes to be sold but I've seen him play, he's good but he's not on the same level as Casillas but I guess not many keepers actually match Casillas' level. I remember how he gives the ball away so easily sometimes. Just my opinion, though. I don't know but Valdes has either matched Casillas for the past 3 seasons or has gone better. The reason why Valdes gives the ball away more is because that's the way we play. There is a certain degree of risk involved in playing the ball out from the back. Just like Messi's unsuccessful dribbles. I don't blame him when he loses the ball because if the dribble is successful, we have a good chance of scoring. Same goes with Valdes, if he passes the ball out perfectly, 1 opponent down but sometimes it can go wrong. Even Xavi doesn't have a 100% passing completion rate. Cool photo btw. I would expect Alves to be smiling and all fun all the time hehe Added on May 1, 2012, 10:40 pm QUOTE(matyrze @ May 1 2012, 03:46 PM) Of all transfers you suggested there the most unlikely one is a world class goalkeeper. Valdes confirmed here to stay. Man.... this guy is more than a football person.He is a philosopher. Did he attend university? If yes I can imagine him studying philosophy or psychology. This post has been edited by barca96: May 1 2012, 10:40 PM |
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May 2 2012, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(barca96 @ May 1 2012, 10:37 PM) Messi = playmaker + attacker. Yup. I think Messi is a better player overall. He's not just a goalscorer, he's an all rounder. Back when he was younger, he was said to be an individual but to be honest, I have no problems with him. Good team player as well for me.I don't know but Valdes has either matched Casillas for the past 3 seasons or has gone better. The reason why Valdes gives the ball away more is because that's the way we play. There is a certain degree of risk involved in playing the ball out from the back. Just like Messi's unsuccessful dribbles. I don't blame him when he loses the ball because if the dribble is successful, we have a good chance of scoring. Same goes with Valdes, if he passes the ball out perfectly, 1 opponent down but sometimes it can go wrong. Even Xavi doesn't have a 100% passing completion rate. True about Valdes. He's certainly not a terrible player but I feel he's behind Pepe Reina and Iker Casillas for the number one spot in Spain. (Well, I'm a Liverpool fan an I know Pepe has been poor but still love the man!) It's unlikely a player has a 100% completion rate and i appreciate players like Xavi or Messi trying something amazing. If it doesn't come off, i appreciate it and when it does, it's amazing (like his assist for Keita) but remember the goal Real Madrid scored against us in the first el classico. It was like so early in the game and I think Valdes gave the ball away too cheaply. |
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May 2 2012, 01:11 PM
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well, on the other hand, vv is on course on winning 4th consecutive zamora trophy
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May 2 2012, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(barca96 @ May 1 2012, 10:37 PM) Did he attend university? I don't think so. But most probably he has read more books than many average university students/grads have, including me If yes I can imagine him studying philosophy or psychology.  And his favourite genre are poetry (mostly Catalans) and politics iinm, so you can imagine where he got his ideas from. And remember the comment was made when he was 29. He was still an active footballer back then, and yet he already seemed very articulate about political subject.QUOTE(Adryan @ May 2 2012, 08:30 AM) Yup. I think Messi is a better player overall. He's not just a goalscorer, he's an all rounder. Back when he was younger, he was said to be an individual but to be honest, I have no problems with him. Good team player as well for me. ...and Valdes continued to play the passing style didn't he? And he did pretty well afterwards right?True about Valdes. He's certainly not a terrible player but I feel he's behind Pepe Reina and Iker Casillas for the number one spot in Spain. (Well, I'm a Liverpool fan an I know Pepe has been poor but still love the man!) It's unlikely a player has a 100% completion rate and i appreciate players like Xavi or Messi trying something amazing. If it doesn't come off, i appreciate it and when it does, it's amazing (like his assist for Keita) but remember the goal Real Madrid scored against us in the first el classico. It was like so early in the game and I think Valdes gave the ball away too cheaply. For me there's a reason Valdes has been trusted as our number 1 GK ever since his 02/03 season. And about comparison with Pepe and Casillas, I have nothing too much to argue. Both Valdes and Pepe haven't got many chance to prove themselves on the international stage, so any direct comparison will be difficult. I just know that he is set to be our no 1 for many years to come, since La Masia has yet to produce another GK prodigy yet. This post has been edited by matyrze: May 2 2012, 04:31 PM |
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May 2 2012, 05:32 PM
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Wenger on our disappointing end to the season
QUOTE ..Wenger believes there are a number of reasons to explain Barcelona’s downturn in form, not least the departure of Abidal for a liver transplant operation. “Personally I still think Barcelona are the best team in the world,” he said. “They play tired, because what has changed at Barcelona is they did not have the squad to play at the World Cup and in the Copa Del Rey, the Champions League and the Spanish championship. “I believe as well that they could not afford to lose two players - one Messi and two, Abidal. When they lost Abidal… when you watch the game when we won 2-1 he saved three goals - he made three desperate saves. “Against Chelsea the other night, the bad luck was they lost Pique early in the game. They played with one defender - Puyol - in the whole game. “Macherano is a midfielder and Alves is a… something more than a defender. Basically they played the whole game with one defender. But they are still the best team.” Arsenal.com |
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May 3 2012, 02:45 AM
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anyone got link for barca vs malaga game? please share here~thanks
 Added on May 3, 2012, 2:49 amhohoh messi 1 goal now...2 more goals to break mueller record!!!: D This post has been edited by MessiX10: May 3 2012, 02:49 AM |
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May 3 2012, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE(MessiX10 @ May 3 2012, 02:45 AM) anyone got link for barca vs malaga game? please share here~thanks another goal by messi Added on May 3, 2012, 2:49 amhohoh messi 1 goal now...2 more goals to break mueller record!!!: D |
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May 3 2012, 03:30 AM
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QUOTE(fJok3R @ May 3 2012, 03:21 AM) another goal by messi hohohoh hattttrrick by messi!! messi already break mueller record!!  |
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May 3 2012, 03:30 AM
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ah that's it, hatrick to leo, congrats
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May 3 2012, 04:07 AM
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YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
He's broken Gerd Muller's record!! 3 more games remaining and he has 68 goals. I wnat 70 please. Take a bow, Leo. Greatest footballer I have ever seen. |
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