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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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post Oct 10 2011, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Oct 9 2011, 12:58 AM)
In his book Basic Economics, Thomas Sowell[62] argued that, in the long-term, gold does not hold its value compared to stocks and bonds:

    To take an extreme example, while a dollar invested in bonds in 1801 would be worth nearly a thousand dollars by 1998, a dollar invested in stocks that same year would be worth more than half a million dollars. All this is in real terms, taking inflation into account. Meanwhile, a dollar invested in gold in 1801 would by 1998 be worth just 78 cents.
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That is ... if the system actually holds up. How come this line keeps repeating itself? The most basic of understanding, if taken for dogma, becomes useless in the real world. Maybe people who had stocks and bonds in the bankrupt banks of Barings, Lehman since their inception are worth more when at the ends of their institutional lives at bankruptcy!

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post Oct 10 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Oct 10 2011, 07:34 PM)
Nola because I study those China gold forum, know what is the rates they normally buy and sell. Hit and run strategy. I invest quite a huge amount, so 1 month 10% profit is my main target. Below is one of the example from the forumer there (Google translate if cant read chinese  tongue.gif )

综上所述:在基本面上,欧债危机再次恶化和漫延,市场风险偏好情绪受到进一步的打击;但实物买盘和全球通胀对现货金也有较强的支撑。在技术面上,现货金今天仍然面临一个震荡的格局。

现货金晚盘建议:震荡格局 。美洲盘开盘前回测1648(338.23)-1650(338.64)附近短多,目标1662(341.1)以上(1662-1666-1678),止损3-5美元以上;上破1666(341.92),可看至1676(343.97)以上。再次冲高至1678(344.38)-1680(344.79)附近可短空,目标10美元以上,止损3-5美元以上;下破1648,可看至1637(335.97)以下。

日内支撑:1595-1610-1625
日内阻力:1666-1680-1698
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hmmm since i cant read chinese i put this up for others.


To sum up: the fundamentals, the debt crisis worsening and spread again, subject to market risk appetite further blow; but physical buying and global inflation on the spot gold also has strong support. In the technical side, spot gold today is still facing a shock pattern.

Gold's evening suggestions: shock pattern. Americas disk before opening back-tested 1648 (338.23) -1 650 (338.64) than near the short, target 1662 (341.1) or more (1662-1666-1678), stop-loss of more than $ 3-5; on broken 1666 (341.92), to be seen to 1676 (343.97) or more. Once again shot up to 1678 (344.38) -1 680 (344.79) may be a short space near the target more than $ 10, with a stop of more than $ 3-5; the next break 1648, you can look to 1637 (335.97) the following

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QUOTE(fahrur_07 @ Oct 10 2011, 03:38 PM)
Public Bank Gold Investment Account

Gold Investment Account as at 10/10/11 3:15 PM

  Selling Price Buying Price
1 gram RM 170.5100 RM 163.8100

haiya..
why keep dropping?
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drop = good for long,

up = good for short

who cares it up or down... it will comes your your desire level, just sooner or later
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post Oct 10 2011, 10:56 PM

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At this moment, gold up a bit but currency drop... End of the day, not really gain...

Unless price of gold jump more than currency drop...

Otherwise... It is the same to me...

QUOTE(buysell @ Oct 10 2011, 05:05 PM)
1.00 USD  = 3.12275 MYR 

USD drop GOLD up! thumbup.gif year end can see GOLD back to 19xx if USD keep on dropping huhuuu rclxms.gif
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post Oct 10 2011, 11:39 PM

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I bought RM 169.20 UOB notworthy.gif
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post Oct 11 2011, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Oct 10 2011, 09:38 AM)
Attached herewith a graph that I get from some China gold forum which I found quite accurate. Gold has break 1645, next will look for 1680
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Added on October 11, 2011, 7:25 am
QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Oct 10 2011, 07:34 PM)
Nola because I study those China gold forum, know what is the rates they normally buy and sell. Hit and run strategy. I invest quite a huge amount, so 1 month 10% profit is my main target. Below is one of the example from the forumer there (Google translate if cant read chinese  tongue.gif )

综上所述:在基本面上,欧债危机再次恶化和漫延,市场风险偏好情绪受到进一步的打击;但实物买盘和全球通胀对现货金也有较强的支撑。在技术面上,现货金今天仍然面临一个震荡的格局。

现货金晚盘建议:震荡格局 。美洲盘开盘前回测1648(338.23)-1650(338.64)附近短多,目标1662(341.1)以上(1662-1666-1678),止损3-5美元以上;上破1666(341.92),可看至1676(343.97)以上。再次冲高至1678(344.38)-1680(344.79)附近可短空,目标10美元以上,止损3-5美元以上;下破1648,可看至1637(335.97)以下。

日内支撑:1595-1610-1625
日内阻力:1666-1680-1698
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Target achieved right before Europe market close. Interested to know today movement? Stay tune.

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post Oct 11 2011, 09:43 AM

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healthy looking graph currently. anyway hongchai, any chance u share with us d chinese website? i need to rely on my google translate lo.. hehe
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QUOTE(spikyz @ Oct 11 2011, 09:43 AM)
healthy looking graph currently. anyway hongchai, any chance u share with us d chinese website? i need to rely on my google translate lo.. hehe
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Here you go. Actually many forumers has PM me for the website. Please register under my reference so I could get some gold coin.

Gold coin is needed to buy gold graph from those senior member. I am still waiting my admire member to post up his graph for today.

http://bbs.dyhjw.com/?fromuser=hongchai888
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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Oct 11 2011, 10:02 AM)
Here you go. Actually many forumers has PM me for the website. Please register under my reference so I could get some gold coin.

Gold coin is needed to buy gold graph from those senior member. I am still waiting my admire member to post up his graph for today.

http://bbs.dyhjw.com/?fromuser=hongchai888
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register under ur refer liao... althou i will seldom go there... support you only
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post Oct 11 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Oct 11 2011, 10:27 AM)
register under ur refer liao... althou i will seldom go there... support you only
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Thx bro rclxms.gif Actually my purpose to buy those graph is to post it here only, I understand not all Lowyater know to read mandarin. sweat.gif


Graph updated :

If gold manage to break 1689, then it will travel further to 1710, if it drop below 1670, it will drop further down to 1660.

(please note above not predict by me, I just translate from the website I mention above, use at your own risk)

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post Oct 11 2011, 10:57 AM

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1.00 USD  = 3.11355 MYR

PB Gold Investment Account
Gold Investment Account as at 11/10/11 10:16 AM

Selling Price
RM 171.5000
Buying Price
RM 164.6700


Eventhough the gold price raise but it seem the bank buying price doesn't change much due to USD drop. doh.gif Anyway it's a good thing to see it goes up and let's hope it goes up more to 19xx by end of this year.
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post Oct 11 2011, 01:01 PM

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ya lo... that's what i said earlier... sigh...

QUOTE(buysell @ Oct 11 2011, 10:57 AM)
Eventhough the gold price raise but it seem the bank buying price doesn't change much due to USD drop. doh.gif Anyway it's a good thing to see it goes up and let's hope it goes up more to 19xx by end of this year.
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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Oct 11 2011, 10:02 AM)
Here you go. Actually many forumers has PM me for the website. Please register under my reference so I could get some gold coin.

Gold coin is needed to buy gold graph from those senior member. I am still waiting my admire member to post up his graph for today.

http://bbs.dyhjw.com/?fromuser=hongchai888
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haha alright. as long u providing the info here wink.gif

*just hoping that forum is not entirely in mandarin..if not i will have difficult time even to register rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(buysell @ Oct 11 2011, 10:57 AM)
Eventhough the gold price raise but it seem the bank buying price doesn't change much due to USD drop. doh.gif Anyway it's a good thing to see it goes up and let's hope it goes up more to 19xx by end of this year.
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Highly unlikely....Gold will most likely be in the dumps until early next year. Technically Gold has been hurt and it will take a few months for confidence to be restored...
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Oct 11 2011, 03:12 PM)
Highly unlikely....Gold will most likely be in the dumps until early next year. Technically Gold has been hurt and it will take a few months for confidence to be restored...
Yes i now think the same. The way things are going, investors are treating gold the same as stocks. When they get good news, gold rises but the momnet anything bad comes they dump gold. I expect this current rise in gold to be shortlived. More pain coming before end of the year. I dont think gold will hit its target price of US$ 2,000 by year end.

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Oct 11 2011, 10:32 AM)
Thx bro  rclxms.gif  Actually my purpose to buy those graph is to post it here only, I understand not all Lowyater know to read mandarin.  sweat.gif
Graph updated :

If gold manage to break 1689, then it will travel further to 1710, if it drop below 1670, it will drop further down to 1660.

(please note above not predict by me, I just translate from the website I mention above, use at your own risk)
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Gold has dropped to 1660, this is an important support price, if cant hold, it will drop further to 1640.

Anyway, is just a typical drop moment in the market as usual if u realize. Lets hope it can hold and bounce back soon.
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1655 oledi. frankly i'm not surprised. if you follow cnn & bloomberg, you'll notice - today economy good news, tomorrow bad news, next day good news again and the day after more bad news. if thats not manipulation i don't know what is
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QUOTE(Quinn @ Oct 10 2011, 12:23 AM)
Gold is currently consolidating between $1680/oz and $1580/oz. First we need to wait for chikou (green) to get into the kumo & break $1680 for confirmation of bullish movement. If market breaks $1580, it will lead to more bearish movement.

The good news is, if you look at the candlesticks during consolidation, there is more bull (white) candles than bear (black) and definately a lot of small dojis.

Thus, pls give the gold some time to pick its momentum. Like a car, it needs to get heat up first!

If chikou does break the resistance said, then my target will be $1727 before you see some correction before resuming its bullish movement (if the formation of waves looks good at that time.)

Happy trading!  wub.gif
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It does break the resistance today USD1682/1oz but it drop back to 1661 now, not going up 17xx. hmm.gif Ichimoku chart accurate?

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Oct 11 2011, 05:02 PM)
1655 oledi. frankly i'm not surprised. if you follow cnn & bloomberg, you'll notice - today economy good news, tomorrow bad news, next day good news again and the day after more bad news. if thats not manipulation i don't know what is
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Its above 1660 now. The drop could just be a healthy correction on the way up or could be a start of a bigger correction, sometimes it overshoots support on the way down.

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Hi all, i'm new in GOLd ^^

y'day went to UOB to create account and wanted to buy but the ppl messed up my registration and end up i couldn't manage to lock in @ RM 169.20/g.

This morning I went again (that time was about RM 170.00) and when i reach the office the price increase again to RM 170.50/g.

Sigh, lock in at high price sad.gif

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