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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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cybermaster98
post Aug 30 2011, 11:01 PM

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Gold now at US$1,828. Very volatile period. The moment gold drops below 1,800, ppl start to load up thus pushing prices higher. So it will take some some major rally in the stock market to ensure gold drops again.
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post Aug 31 2011, 03:20 AM

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More bad news for US & Europe. Gold up slightly to 1,835 now.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-30/g...-recession.html

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/30/news/econo...x.htm?iid=HP_LN

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post Sep 1 2011, 12:05 PM

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Read article on gold dated 31 Aug

http://silver-and-gold-prices.goldprice.org/


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post Sep 3 2011, 12:15 PM

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Read gold commentries here:
http://silver-and-gold-prices.goldprice.org/

Gold now trading at US$ 1,883 per ounce. Will gold rise further? I think it will based on the following articles.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2...-rescue-qe.html

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/02/markets/oi...x.htm?iid=HP_LN


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post Sep 3 2011, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Disagree @ Sep 2 2011, 10:48 PM)
When u guys plan to sell.. i hv been buying continuously for past 8 months. Thinking when best time to sell?
Short term buying n selling will only get you small returns while exposing you to greater risks. Always plan to keep gold for a longer period. Keep buying at the dips but try and hold on to the gold longer as the long term outlook for gold is up.

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post Sep 5 2011, 08:44 AM

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Gold now trading at RM 184.32 per gram (Maybank) or US$1,885 per ounce.
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post Sep 6 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(DeaDLocK @ Sep 6 2011, 09:59 AM)
Relax... the last time it crossed over $1900 it instantly came crashing down again. Now it is hovering around $1900 quite steadily - sure cross the mark.

When it hits $2000 it will also probably come down again very fast to $18XX, and then rise slowly to go over $2000. I'm planning to exit at $2000 and go back in at $18XX - we'll see how well my plan works!
Gold now trading at US1,910. The reason it drops after a good rise is due to profit taking.

But the idea about selling at high prices and buying again at the low is not good. You should keep buying at every dip and not sell when it rises because the general trend of gold is still up. So even with the intermediate dips, the overall gold price is going up. Selling at some rises is merely limiting your overall earnings.

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post Sep 6 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(hurly @ Sep 6 2011, 12:10 PM)
I am new small time gold investor. Bought my gold around 170ish. Just asking, if I want to topup, should I enter now? The price is ridiculously high. I am holding it for a few years hopefully.

The question is: when should I enter? Anyone has tips?
I think the first question you should ask is 'Is the price high now or not?' The same people who said the prices at RM 131/g in May 2010 are too high also saying the prices at RM 186/g now are too high.

The general trend of gold is up. And i think if the economy remains this bad or gets worse, there's every possibility that gold will hit US2,500-3,000 within the next 6-8 months.
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post Sep 6 2011, 05:55 PM

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Guys,

Please read through all posts (especially the recent ones) to get an idea about how gold behaves. Many of the questions here have been asked numerous times. Its pointless asking the same questions over n over again. So im going to say this once for all newbies here.

Gold currently is on a major thrust upwards. But when there is a drastic rise (more than US$50 in a short timeframe), there will always be profit taking. This results in prices dropping until a lower barrier. Once prices are low enough, then the buyers move in with their purchases which in turn raises the gold price further. With the additional bad news coming out of US & Europe, this upper barrier for gold is raised further just like what happened today when gold prices reached US$1,920. Based on what's happening in US & Europe, there are good indications that gold will reach US$2,000-2,500 in the next 6 months unless the US recovers.

People generally will buy gold at the dips and some will sell when gold hits a high price. But i would always recommend buying at dips and not selling the gold u have when prices increase just to make short term profits. Gold is supposed to be a long term investment (physical and GIA investment).

So hope my brief explanation above will help answer questions like 'When is the best time to buy'. Gold is currently trading at US$1,895. Lets see how gold performs when US markets open in 3 hours time.

(p/s Can i suggest that we refrain from making comments that are not beneficial to the general discussion? Comments like 'hope you guys make alot of money', etc only serve to lengthen the thread. It makes it difficult for newbies to make reference to previous posts as they have to scroll through numerous pages.)

Thanks!

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post Sep 6 2011, 11:08 PM

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The Swiss Franc dropped drastically from 3.80 to 3.48 in just a few hours because of this:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-06/s...t-the-euro.html

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post Sep 7 2011, 07:53 AM

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Investors who were putting their money in Swiss Francs were badly hit. So most of them would have pulled put but didnt go into stocks or gold which probably led to gold dropping in tandem with stocks. But wait for the European stock markets to open later in the afternoon before we can gauge the true impact of the Swiss Franc peg. Gold currently trading at US$1,877 now. We should see a price of about RM 182/g on Maybank this morning.
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post Sep 7 2011, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 7 2011, 09:22 AM)
Maybe no one left after Europe market open today, who know
Gold will always be there unless there is a total collapse of world markets. Gold now trading at US$1,871 and about RM 183.91 (Maybank).
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post Sep 7 2011, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 7 2011, 01:37 PM)
i was so in luck la, buy when it is lowest
Well i wouldnt say its the lowest. Maybe the lowest for this week so far. Current price is RM 181.37 at US$1,840. I think it may drop further.
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QUOTE(Taka_0 @ Sep 7 2011, 01:53 PM)
aiya...sigh like cybermaster mentioned before... just rm2/3 fell yet ppl so "bising2" here. gold is for long term investment laa. u will get 200-300 increment in a year, why so noisy about 2/3 fell?
Exactly! Gold is not like stock market la. You cannot micro monitor gold investments (unless ure in gold stocks). There will always be rises and dips in gold pricing throughout the day. Most important is you get the best (not right) price when you invest.

Take yesterday for example. Even though gold went up like crazy initially, the final closing price on Maybank was RM 184.08 which was less than Monday's close of RM 184.84.

Gold seems to be dropping drastically now. Its now at US$1,834. Maybank's rate is RM 178.98 now. We will get a clearer picture when European markets open soon. Till then just take it easy and dont get excited too much guys. Remember that you're just adding on to the number of pages in this thread and making it extra long with no real valuable input.

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QUOTE(holybo @ Sep 7 2011, 02:18 PM)
May I know why the The Swiss Franc news drag down the gold price so much? The gold price will be expected to go down again? Wanna top up some gold soon =)
When the stock markets in US and Europe crashed, many investors jumped to Swiss Franc, Yen and gold. This caused a dramatic rise in all 3 prices. The Japanese gov is already controlling the price of Yen and now with the Swiss Gov pegging the franc, most investors were caught. Many ppl thought that this move would result in gold prices going down too which caused them to panic and sell. Thats why gold prices are dropping now.

My personal opinion is that this drop is very much temporary. Gold will rise again so those of you who wish to invest in gold, better do it now. Ill wait till the US markets open tonite before i invest more into gold. Im looking to pump in about RM 50K so getting the best price is important.

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post Sep 7 2011, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Quinn @ Sep 7 2011, 02:32 PM)
If they panic and sold, where do these people move they money to?
Probably a 'want and see' situation. But they wont wait for long. Gold is still hovering around US$1,838 and RM180.73 on Maybank.
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http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...28&sec=business

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post Sep 7 2011, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quinn @ Sep 7 2011, 07:00 PM)
Some asked me why did gold reversed? Nobody really knows but there was some strong indication.

1. Let's draw some important S&R by using chikou. As in the image attached, S&R was drawn from daily & weekly chart.
2. What is S&R? Support and resistance is a potential reversal "area". I do not consider it as a point, but an area of potential reversal.
3. When price reaches an important S&R, what we do is wait for a clear direction of what the market wants to do. Then, we will ride the trend with the market. As a trend trader, i do not try to pick any tops or bottoms.
4. At a S&R, if it forms a reversal candle, then it will support that it is a strong reversal region. Thus, at XAUDaily image, it formed a double top with reversal candlestick pattern called engulfing.
5. As a trend trader, we wait for a clear direction by scaling into smaller time frame that support the direction of the reversal.
6. As seen in the M15 chart, entry upon kumo breakout was a good one with stop loss at recent high.
7. TP will be using trailing Senkou Span B.
8. Did you see what happens to price when it reached the next support at 1850.43?

Hope this analysis helps you to understand the power of multiple time frame analysis. Until price breaks SSB @ M15, it looks like it will going down for awhile despite hitting the H2 kumo.

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So based on this, what would be the lower supprt level before prices start to rise again? So far prices are stagnating around the US$1,840 level.
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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Sep 7 2011, 07:13 PM)
Prices has broke the $ 1820... does it mean it will go down further?

Or is this the end of the bull run?
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Where are you getting your info from? The price is still at US$1,837 la. The last time it reached 1,820 was 1 Sept.

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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 9 2011, 01:58 PM)
Couldn't agree more. Gold already raised to 1870, RM 178.5 is a good price to buy yesterday unfortunately I have missed it due to too risky to go bank with a lot of cash in hand

Plan to open Public Bank GIA due to they allow online transaction but I heard the spread is quite high compare to UOB
Yes its very high. Its about RM7.43 compared to RM2 only for UOB. I wouldnt wanna pay the extra spread just to get the convenience of online transaction.

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