So, the implication was working as factory supervisor can live a luxury life in Msia and send 2 kids to UK for tertiary education whilst Cashier working in Australia is living a miserable life?
I am really not sure how familiar are you with the salary of cashier in Australia. I have no idea of the rest of the state in Aus. Do you believe if I tell you the cashier here is paid so much higher in AUD than the amount you mentioned in the previous post?

Note: I am just telling fact. I am not promoting that working as cashier in foreign country is better than a CEO in Msia.

Well robert my friend, if a couple is working as driver nor cashier, they still manage to buy a bungalow house here. Life may be hard, but that's life. It's the matter of choice. They still manage sending kids to school, uni and still some social welfare, why not?
Property market in Oz is very much rely on supply and demand. Currently it's gonna come down any moment. Yeap, it's a sub-standard job all right, but still can manage to get world class uni and most parents won't starve till death.
I suggest that freshies when they finish their uni here, try their very best to apply a job locally. Give themselves a year and see the outcome. At least they're trying their very best. If not, come back to malaysia and work.
Not all Ozzie is really that lazy bum. Some who really manage well financially is going through pretty well. Some are really bad-ass.
Cashier do have high pay. It's AUD20/hr. Check it out in IGA/Woolies/Coles

My advise to freshies, a year to look on ur job profession while working casual. If not, get ur arse back home.
If u manage to get PR, come to job market asap. Since they don't recognise malaysia working experience then better come early. Come later also same case.

Sorry but for that person who still in cashier position after 10 years is probably unrealistic. I don't believe one won't get the professional job(in related field) if you keeps looking. It may take 1,2 and even 3 years but 10 years is too long unless you don't have qualification and skill at all.

Since you put it that way, what if one in Malaysia unable to find a decent job after graduate and work as cashier for 10 years?

Career in Malaysia still pretty good considering many developed countries outsourced their jobs to Asia but is just the environment that I don't like. Most importantly is the employees in Malaysia are hard to fight for their working rights whereas Australia have a law and everything must comply with FairWork rules. Eg, being bullied? refer Fairwork. racist and discrimination in work? refer Fairwork. No salary after few months? refer Fairwork. Unfair dismissal? refer Fairwork.

Also, house might be expensive in Australia but at least those people with PR get the first home buyer discount(compare to bumiputra only in Malaysia). They also provide first home saving account for future first home buyer where you can put your savings into high interest account. This is what we call benefits and know where our tax gone to

Each country has its own pros and cons. It is definitely up to each individual whether they want to stay back in Malaysia or try their luck in a new country, in this case Australia. I believe most of them that decided to leave everything they have in Malaysia and to try it in Australia would have their reasons and have definitely taken into consideration that they will have to start from the bottom and it not all rosy. Hence, I don't see the point of disagreeing on what each type of job would earn more money in each country. It is more beneficial to the others whom seeking advice for those to share their experience with relation to the subject of the topic

Let's get back to the fact. Cashier in Australia hardly earn $20 per hours. Period.

Like I said, career in Malaysia is still good but some people prefer a fair and square jobs. Firstly, why Malaysia has a shortage of talents? Because it was caused by the employer and probably the government. Their works are not appreciated and treated like slave. Secondly, people always don't get paid for OT and have to work even on weekend. I am fine working on weekend but at least pay me extra. Thirdly, if you have skill, you can have your good career anywhere including Malaysia and Australia. No such thing as Australia don't appreciate my skill compare to Malaysia because I am "yellow" but it will be the case if you can't speak and write good English. You have to be confident enough to mix with local(learn their jokes, have a Friday outing with them, watch the way they speak,etc)

Anyway, Malaysia still a good country and has a potential to be even better if the people can pick up the pace rather than only think of fast money in incorrect  way(MLM,etc)

Well I would just like to give my own POV in terms of a student's perspective.

Definitely looking for a professional job is hard, but when hunting for 1, probs take around 1-2 years, it's always good to have a part time job, even working as a cashier.

Reason behind this is,

1. You don't waste your time and your parents' money.
2. You have an edge over other people who has never done any part time work before.
3. You can expand your networking rather than limiting yourself to just academic professionals in the university.

Economy is tough now and not everyone gets a job as they desire, you just have to make do with what you have.

Having said that, I am definitely coming home to Malaysia to work after working for 15 years in Australia at least. Malaysia, no matter how is still my home country. But that being said, time will tell.

Each have their own preferences.

I like Australia because of the living environment. Relaxing and clean. Can't feel the stress environment even in the CBD(comapre to Sg and Malaysia where everyone rushing around). Although money is the big concern but the environment sometime can makes you more enjoyable.

I just looking a place to settle down and Sg for me definitely not a good place to settle down.

Hihihehe pin point the fact. Malaysian actually doesn't request much, what they need is the respect and proud to their job which employer is appreciate on their hardwork. I worked for 10 years, helping my boss earn so much money. Not a single word of thank you or appreciation. One month bonus has to cut 25% as company's requirement. It's a typical chinaman company. Company public listed ex. 40cents, forcing staff to take 50cents!We are those idiots who's balls were squeeze by them

Lucky for u, who knew that company act like bandits not until u put your feet in? Who shall i report to?Fairwork??
My feedback given by friends is i'm idiot to serve this company. Why don't u try ABC company or XYZ company? I've heard so many bullshit in malaysia.
Well, in my field, almost every company is the same. Construction in malaysia is a damn ass working culture.
Many people dunno that most construction company which is really rich today, their fathers all are bandits or gangster background.
I dun wanna name them here...

Then argue back, tell them that you worked for MNC in msia which the work culture very different from msia china man culture. Tell them that the job appraisal system is similar world wide.

Btw when you got your china co work job, is it what you were looking for? Is it in line with your job expectations/skills?

For eg, you are IT grad but you working as a cook (not in line with job skills)

isn't it good? i'm sure you don't hope malaysia "issues" affected the tourist right?

anyway, many of my colleagues mistaken me as singaporean or indonesia because those are the only countries that they can think of. i have to remind them countless time that i actually from malaysia.

Well, that is what the interview is about...is where you sell your talents to your potential employer.

So justify to them and put out their doubts with your persuasive skills.

Just like how a salesman would try to push his product to his potential customer, you do the same too, because this is your chance.

But if the interviewer still not convince with your points, then let it be, at least you tried.

I've seen indian programmer from bangalore, do a great job but its just that they got bad accent, nobody can understand a word they saying. I've worked in an europe country for a few months, and I can tell you, I've met some colleagues from Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe who can do a better job than the White man counterpart.

Is it possible for someone who only has high school education to work over there?
Thinking F&B industry, Nandos etc.

The reason that i stated that is there's no forever job in Australia compared to Malaysia. U may see me good today, maybe 2years later, i'll be retrench and jobless. I found that most people here have the experience of being retrench. It's normal here.
My classmate who's mining engineer here getting AUD150k for 2 years. We're so envy and he bought 2 house (4 x 2 x 2) Last year kena goreng and work in supermarket now. Luckily his wife is working to sustain their expenses. Selling 1 of his house now.
That's y i try to live as normal but has to prepare for the worst as i don't want my children suffers from recession. Aiming to invest some property for recession resistant

Robertchoo my friend, i can say it loud and clear. IT'S WORTH IT!
U can earn big cash or doing big business in Malaysia but u hv to sacrifice ur family time. I past through the process and I sacrificed too much on this.
I'm not worried much on job. U need to plan well financially. Unless u're not planning for future, earn a dollar spend two dollars people.

Living here is much better. I can thinking of doing my personal things like fixing my car, gardening, home improvement bringing my children to jog around after work. This is no way i could do it in Malaysia eversince my job is hooked up with OT. That's y so many family in Malaysia their parents not able be with them all the time.
Children childhood only once of a lifetime. They past through 1st 3-5 years only.

Which option do u want my friend, money or family?

At 1st it doesn't concern me either when i was in KL last month. When you're here, damn, it's really a deep shit coz it's gonna affect your living.
You're right, many people seems not even want to vote Liberal either. When i'm here, i do feel their political heat. They have no choice, either A or B.
Ozzie seems hopefully someone else here.

Hey there,

Been reading your post and I am in sort of a dilemma. I have a full PR that will expire next year in May 2014. I really am 50/50 on migrating back to australia. I left aust in 2008 due to financial difficulties and loss of job. Came back and have been working in sales and marketing positions for last 4 years. Now that it's close to expiry date am wondering whether or not to go back. Career wise i'm no CEO or Tony Fernandez...just earning slightly above average and in small company. My only worry is go back there have no job and no way at all to sustain myself.

Also there is the GF thing. She really wants to move there and pressuring me everyday to marry her and bring her there. Problem is we both aren't very stable together and marrying would be the last thing to do

Really in a massive dilemma now.. I know australia is good. But issit good enough to go there are slog without family...without a good job and having to work in cafe, construction, restaurant etc... i mean what's the point right if the whole point of migration is to be happier with better standard of living.

I'm not trying to knock down those who are working in these jobs... personally i feel for myself...kinda waste study so hard then go there n do all this. maybe it's my stupid pride.

But i like your posts and it would be great if you can share some of your thought processes when u decided to leave msia

if they have AUD 2 Million, do you think they would even be on this forum, in this thread, trying to gather more information on how to migrate?

living in perth now. Yeap, i got family need to take care of. kinda tight with sole income.
for young person is easy to migrate but without working experience will a challenge.