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 Working in Australia, Experiences working in Australia.

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post Apr 18 2012, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(jskf01 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:57 PM)
well you dont have to answer if you dont feel comfy doing so. salary wise you can always lie. you will encounter bad hats here and there but they won't be in the majority.
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Well, that depends on whether they need you or you need them more. If you need a job more than they need you, do you have a choice?
But if they need you more then you need them, then you can tell them to piss-off and pay you a huge salary. No problem. But judging by the economic and job prospect for most sector in Aus, i think they got more candidate than jobs around.


Added on April 18, 2012, 10:05 pm
QUOTE(tgrrr @ Apr 18 2012, 10:02 PM)
That's not the same. If a topic e.g. race or gender orientation is considered discriminative, they can't even ask nor talk about it, e.g. you wouldn't see this in the job application forms.
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Dude, they don't have to ask specifically.
They just interview you and when they see you are not white or whatever within their criteria, you just don't hear from them. That's all.
It's the same everywhere including myself when i hire. I don't tell them you don't get the job becuase you are XXXX. I just interview them and when i find out they are XXX i just don't call them back. You can sue all you want but you got nothing.

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post Apr 19 2012, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 19 2012, 06:34 AM)
that is true.
you don need to put all of your personal details in the CV(like what every malaysian like to do).
name,address,email and mobile are sufficient in cv. but is best to include your residency status if you are PR holder.

employers now are smart enough that they will check your detail from social website
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Yup that's very correct. So please don't post nonsense on yr social website especially with regards to your current/ex employer/boss. It will be career suicide. Nobody want's to hire someone who actively bad mouths their current/ex employer/boss!
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post May 21 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(doinkz_gaara @ May 20 2012, 09:25 PM)
Hello,

I might be able to secure a job to Australia thanks to my tutor in uni.

Was wondering, how does the employee sponsored VISA works? Is it hard to get even if the company in Australia wants to hire me?
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The Australian company need to prove that there are no available Australian or Australian PR to fill the job for a reasonable amount of time. Same as all other countries. So unless yor job is very skillful or niche, chances are slim. There are alot of unemployed Australians looking for jobs in the market
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post May 30 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Job2Go @ May 30 2012, 07:56 AM)
IT, Engineering jobs are always in demand in australia..

my company works like this, we get ur resume and hear from u what u want, we find a company in australia who is willing to give u a full time job and be the sponsor for ur visa, then we do the visa matters for u too..

so before we can do the visa, we will find u a job first.. at a fee of course..


Added on May 30, 2012, 7:58 amIT, Engineering jobs are always in demand in australia..

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Ladies and Gentleman,
A fair reminder to beware of such agencies.
Alot of these (I'm not implying the above person is) so called agents charge exhorbitant agent fees, some i heard up to 40% of your salary for up to a year! and will withhold your salary indiscriminately. They will insist you sign a form to credit your salary to their them. Also some charge various exhorbitant "fees" in addition to agent fees like accomodation, visa, etc. Many are conned by these type of agent and ended up working for practically free after deducting tax and agent fees.
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post Jun 17 2012, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Jun 16 2012, 11:45 PM)
Super is EPF in Malaysia terms.  smile.gif
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Not really.
Unlike EPF, I think for Super you have to choose a particular approved fund which is like unit trust fund. Can lose money wan
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post Aug 11 2012, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Aug 10 2012, 07:22 PM)
Can I go australia on a holiday visa and find jobs there, and the apply for working visa?
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Better don't unless you have loads of cash to burn.
What happened if you go there and cannot find a job while your cash is fully used up?
Live on the streets?
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post Aug 19 2012, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 18 2012, 11:40 PM)
submit the skill assessment to ACS(australian computing society board) and they will decide but normall it will be fine if your course/job is related
man, you just don't know hows the job searching life over here. the percentage of you being hired for "professional" job with that working holiday visa is near to 0 unless you are DAMN GOOD. even tons of fresh graduate with PR here still jobless for years and they just working part time in restaurant,etc. they won't waste their time and resources to sponsor you a visa too(tons of paperwork and they need to bear the application fee)

most of the working holiday visa came here work in restaurant as casual/part time and holiday and they really enjoy this "working holiday period"


Added on August 18, 2012, 11:44 pm

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Plus he thinks getting a job (a profesional one too) in Aus can be done in 3 mths, in spite of all the unemployment in Aus and HOPE that the company will sponsor him a visa! Well yes, if you're a very very very very highly skilled, very experienced personnel!

Quote "Thinking of living on a student budget like RM 3k per month, so can get ready ±RM 10k to spend over 3 months in Australia." Unquote
Some people are absolutely clueless.
I welcome him back home to M'sia 3 months later and RM 10k poorer!

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post Sep 13 2012, 10:51 PM

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Actually, if you must go australia, die die also want to go , there is one way besides trying to get a skilled visa (or whatever crap visa) and HOPING to send THOUSANDS of resume in HOPES (fat hopes) that some company to hire you while you have enough saving (burning though it like Ferrari on petrol at full speed) to last you for your unemployment period.

The solution is simple. Instead of wasting hundreds of thousands of dollar for something not guaranteed, why not consider investing in a course to become a qualified nurse. I was told Australia is SO SHORT OF NURSES that they are willing to GIVE YOU A HIGH PAYING JOB AND sponsor you a working visa which will be converted into PR in a few years time. Isn't that just fantastic?! You get a stable job (and I was told the starting pay is quite high for nurses bout 5k-6k AUD a month before tax) and you get to live in Australia.
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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Nov 1 2012, 05:34 PM)
thanks for this!

i think that will be shorten by half due to i will bring my family : wife + 2 kids ?  biggrin.gif

is it happen that employeer hire someone with tourist visa? i meant the normal shop like fast food, petrol station and such.

can advise the best route to stay there, working and such? applying PR while there might help is it?

thanks


Added on November 1, 2012, 6:31 pmjust read that we can apply for WHV. nice.
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Dude, working on a tourist visa is a very serious offence.
You and your whole family will get jailled 1) for overstaying your visa 2) cos you're working illegally.
Are you sure you want your wife and kids to have a criminal record?
You will spoil their future!
With a criminal record, your kids cannot find any job in any country when they grow up, even if you come back to Malaysia
Don't gamble on your and your family's future! It's a serious crime to overstay your visa and work illegally, just like robbing/stealing!
And if I'm not mistaken for WHV, you cannot bring your children and you must be below the age of 30. So you already breach their rules. How to get WHV lar?

One more thing is that I cannot believe you (with RM 100k) would stoop so low as to become a blue collar job worker (no offense to them) in a foreign country.
I mean, if you have RM 100k, you should be holding down a decent (but not necessarily well paying) job in Malaysia.
Why?
Besides, Australia today is no longer the Australia of previous years.
The mining boom is slowing rapidly (due to China's slowdown in resource consumption) and the other sectors, well let's just say they are no different that wht's happening is Europe and USA currently. Lots of people jobless and lots more underemployed.

Asia is the future my friend! Not necessarily Malaysia but hink China, HK, Singapore, Thailand and Indonesia.
These are the growth corridors for the next century. This is where the action is.
You don't want to go to Australia and regret!

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post Nov 6 2012, 11:51 PM

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Warmed up to hiring Malaysians? I think is a generalisation and not quite true. While I met many very ambitious and very good malaysians working in australia (and very proud australian bosses too - to have such good employees) I also came across malaysians who are absolute rubbish and have very bad disiplinary record. You know, the kind that maxes out their MC and just don't turn up for work with no reason. Those drive the emplyers mad.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:18 PM)
Dear All,

Being applying pr now and just pending my wife and son's medical check. shall be doing it this week.
I'm quantity surveyor with 9 years experience and primary application.
Hopefully will get the visa granted before chinese new year so i could pack things up for moving forward. Will be heading perth for job hunting.
Any suggestion besides perth?
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Wow QS with exp to boot.
You should have no problems getting a job in Aus. As long as you are not too picky about salary and benefits.
It's quite a ncihe area plus you have the necessary experience.
But why Perth? Why not Sydney and/or Melbourne.
All the action is in Sydney and/or Melbourne. More job opportunities too


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QUOTE(ryei @ Nov 28 2012, 04:29 PM)
anybody work in australia bank?
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You got a job offer from Australian Bank or you're asking coa you're interested to look for one?

If you already got one then I would say its ok depending on what side your on (Commercial, retail or investment) and what function (Backroom, middle office or front office)

If you're asking becuase yr interested to find one then forget about it.
Banking in Australia is cut throat in employment with many functions outsourced to outside Australia due to cost issues. The remaining jobs are either localised (meaning they cannot outsource such as Relationship Management - in which case you will NOT be considered since you're NOT australian i presume) and/or specialised and its priority will always be given to Australians. In short your chances is equivalent of striking a lottery.

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Dec 6 2012, 12:42 AM)
Hey guys. I will be quiting my SG IT job and hop to Australia next month!

Yes! I have not secure a job!
Yes! I have Australia PR! (VE176)!
Yes! No response from Seek/Careerone/Monster/LinkedIn (Maybe my address is SG address).
Yes! It is risky and I might earn more in SG!
Yes! I am single and lesser commitment!
Yes! I am going to the most livable city in the world!
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Most liveable city in the world? Kl also very liveable wat. As long as you have truck loads of cash! Lol! If you don't have enough money, no place on earth is liveable unless you want to become hunter gatherer!
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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Dec 6 2012, 02:13 PM)
I don't see KL stated anywhere in the following list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_most_livable_cities

Yes. Money is important but doesn't define the quality of life.  icon_idea.gif Sometimes the self-sustaining life is much happier than a millionaire living in a corporate world under capitalism system. Anyone can have trucks of cash in Zimbadwe or Angola, but they cant even find a doctor when they contracted with Malaria.
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Quality of life can only happen if you have a job which pays a decent salary. Yr going to aus wif no job, dunno how much cash. If you have millions then no prob. Otherwise australia quality of life working as a full time beggar is no quality of life!
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 7 2012, 07:34 PM)
i'm guessing that you defined the quality of life by money which is sort of true .

most livable city for me is all about how relaxing the state is and how many people willing to migrate over and spend their life there.

if i have car in melbourne, i will drive away from the city area during weekend and enjoy the chilling and lovely neighborhood. look for a nice cafe in the morning and enjoy the view is just too tempting. ic can't find this place in malaysia. even the kampung in malaysia also quite busy and full of "gossips"

trust me, once you secured a job and pretty much everything settle, you will enjoy the life in australia
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Of course.
Life is good even in KL in you have money.

And who says you cannot find a nice cafe and enoy the view in KL?
I go to Mandarin Oriental KLCC and I can enjoy my cuppa with nice views of the city and its quiet.
You just need to fork out smtg like RM 20-30 for a cuppa.
If you have money, no problem

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ Dec 14 2012, 03:19 PM)
I am working in SG with a decent package, although its much better than KL in terms of security, air and healthcare quality, accessibility, infrastructure, government systems, good
I realize you only define quality of life by materials, and the service you can purchase. I don't have to go to Mandarin Oriental in KL to have a nice cuppa, in SG I can easily get a SG$3 cuppa and still have a better view facing the sea in Singapore. To me, it's the environment, government policies, work-life and eco-system that matters.

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Eh dun bluff me lar. I'm also working in Sg. Unless you're talking about foodcourt no such thing as S$3 coffee in sea facing Singapore. Cafe also easily S$5-6 after GST.
What I'm trying to argue is that life is good anywhere if you have the money be it in Malaysia, Australia, etc. Also it depends on individual.
I love the life in Australia too. But I don't intend to work in Australia becuase I want to earn my money in SG first before going to Aus/NZ in the future to retire/take it easy.
I don't want a mediocre life in Australia where you do practically the same thing every day without earning that much or that little.
FYI there is always a ceiling in Aus in terms of wages even if you're in senior mgmt. Aussies tend to view in disgust, people who earn obscene amounts of money.
Further as an asian there is alwyas the invisible glass ceiling. Like it or not.

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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Dec 17 2012, 11:17 AM)
Really? A cup of coffee @ MO KLCC is RM20-30? You've got to be joking. Show receipt or menu if not, you are definitely trolling.

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Yes, really. Unfortunately I don't snap pictures of receipt for the once in a very blue moon that i go drink cofee in MO. But if you agree to reimburse me for the cuppa, I'm more than pleased to show you biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Mirror_man @ Jan 2 2013, 08:15 PM)
Just to share... Why did I look at Australia as an option?

- work life balance (definitely will have time for family/hobbies)
- better security (pensions, govt allowances are there to help)
- cheaper cost of living (to me I think dollar for dollar wise goods are cheaper in Australia? Labour and people services are more expensive I know.  But we WILL have time to cook or buy cheaper frozen food to microwave if in a rush?)
- currency strength (I probably can go on trips to Europe, Japan or Korea more easily if I earn in AUD compared to MYR?)
- I really don't know what will happen to Malaysia in the next 5-10 years...

Some sacrifices to be made:
- leaving family behind (parents, siblings)
- leaving friends behind (but got some frenz in Australia too)
- to "start all over"

Definitely not easy decision.. but sometimes you have to take the tough choice, for the long-term..
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Before u look at Australia as an option, determine if you can actually obtain a job and PR there first.
If you can go ahead. If you can't, better head home
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 7 2013, 03:45 PM)
Yeah, this is what i heard from my friend who worked in sydney for many years.
He told me that most of the hard work would be taken by highly skilled worker, while themselves monitoring where else they themselves know nothing.
However, my friend turn out to be very competitive which end up alot of company would like him to jump ship with higher pay and more allowance. That's why he earns more.
I think malaysian is not so poor in whatever skills. It's just whether the job is it suitable or not
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Unfortunately most malaysian failed big time in communicating in english and lack the confidence to stand toe to toe with the ang mohs. In short malaysians are too timid and humble and don't know how to smoke
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QUOTE(ilineZ @ Jan 27 2013, 08:29 PM)
i planning to move oz in my mid 20's, it means between 2-3 years from now.
i go through the point system, i could pass 60
but my big concern is my skill is not in SOL. i graduate n work in media, i dun think so it will be listed in SOL ever!
i aware that the PR rule keep changing every year,
but is there anything i could do now to prepare?

i dun mind to work in any field and will not be too picky at first few years..
do u think i should pick some new skill like acounting or other on-demand skill?

i love countryside life, more natural places around
for long term, oz will be great i guess
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Start studying nursing
Once you graduated (from an ok uni) with some exp you will be guaranteed a job and PR.

Otherwise even if you can somehow obtain a PR, your chances of obtaining a job is pretty slim.
The unemployment rate is high in Aus vis-a-vis M'sia and there are stiff competition.

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 31 2013, 06:01 PM)
i think it's more accurate if you look at state nomination occupation from each state website like in VIC http://www.liveinvictoria.vic.gov.au/__dat...ia-Nov-2012.pdf

if opposition win in this election then it will be more tougher for migrants. one of their strategy is to tighten the immi rules

sydney and melbourne could be the same when you look from outside but that is not the case. for me, melbourne is more relaxing and maybe 30% less busier than sydney. melbourne is also home of sport in australia which is good if you like sports.
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Ya but Melbourne is less "happening" compared to Sydney.
Like people in Melbourne is more family oriented and more docile.
Sydney has more single professionals, more expats, etc and its more gregarious.
At least that was how i felt after being in both cities.
But then again, I bias towards Sydney.

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