Construction? Jangan harap.

Without an apprenticeship, a few years in the trade and recognition by a body like the master builders association. Probably not.

VETASSESS is the body that reviews your experience and without paper qualifications and proven knowledge of AS/AZS, they won't give you the skill assessment you need.

Plus construction is one of those businesses that are heavily unionized and extremely anti immigrant (Already had that whole korean workers fiasco down in Gold Coast a few months back)

There's always that issue of passing immigration in the first place of course. They're cutting out most trades in the SOL.

seeking job(especially not local or PR) is definitely hard!!damn hard..

i am fortunate enough to get a job (after 5 months of non stop looking) with 1 of the education provider in melbourne as IT helpdesk. salary is way higher than i expected(because it's a casual role with full time hours). helpdesk is just a stepping stone for me to get experience

im now in bridging visa while awaiting for TR(which may take up to 2 years to get approved) and my working place is full of multiracial people(indian background born from different countries, vietnamese, indonesian,local and chinese malaysian which is me). everyone is great and helpful. im happy for now and looking for professional cert to boost up my career

This post has been edited by hihihehe: Aug 29 2011, 07:27 PM

Actually if you live in Sydney/Melbourne, yr net cash holding after netting off taxes, rent and expenses is very low. Unless you are planning to work in Aus for a couple of years then come back to M'sia, then only will it benefit you. Otherwise, if you earn and spend there, it's almost the same as M'sia. i.e. you won't get to save much. Things there are not excatly cheap especially eating out. It cost almost the same as M'sia(although portion is bigger).

+1..totally agree

but i don't think i will spend the rest of my life in australia(too boring!). but if i work in malaysia,i dont think i can save money too because of too much activities.

but i managed to save half of my salary every month and plan to get my own house in next 2 years at malaysia.

the good thing about earning AUD is that i have the power of buying thing with fortnight salary compare to MYR which need to save for few months. not to forget i have super on top of my salary.

Well said.
I think it's a good place to earn money, for a start. To be honest, salary scale for starters in Malaysia is really peanuts compare to Aus. For a normal uni fresh grad to live a comfortable life, owning a house, a decent car, to start a small family, u need at least 5k on ur salary scale if u r living in kl or pj.

If u r thinking of eating out everyday, I dun think u will be able to save any money.

I actually get many different opinions bout working in Australia. Some are looking forward to the working life there where it's less stressful and better paid. Some say it's a good place to earn money but not a good place to start a family and eventually u will have to return to ur home country after a few years. Some even say the opportunity in Malaysia is much greater than Australia.
I say, I'll have to check out da place myself to see whats it like to work in australia.

Some say discrimination is bad. But aren't such incidents happening around us? Even in schools, outside world, all around us, discrimination is everywhere.

Money, da money u save is worth 3 times if u return to Malaysia. Working 3 yrs in Australia almost equals to working for 10 yrs in Malaysia. Dat is provided u manage to save equal amount of money ignoring the currency exchange.

What say u?

my advise to you is, if you are firm to work there for a try..
get a PR now if you are qualify..as rules will change in July..
no point getting opinions on the environment there and in the end you cant even work there..

Do u mean to say that the rules will change again in July 2012?
I thought da point system has just revised in July 2011?

Yea, it's getting harder to obtain the PR status. In da past election, it was their to priority for both parties to reduce the immigrant numbers. It's just too bad that I did not qualify for it back when the process was still more lenient.

normally rules will be amended during the new financial year, which is July..but during last few years, rules did change before July as well..you can always go to DIAC and check out..i heard EOI (Expression of Interest) will be introduce next year, but not sure for which subclass..(since i dun really bother to update myself anymore..)

my advise is, if u qualify now, get all your docs ready and submit, no point waiting and getting so many opinions..since u r firm going there and try your luck no matter how we tell u the grass is not greener there if your main point of working there is due to currency..

probably u can ask again when u got ur PR in another year or so whether its worth it to go there or not..since circumstances will change every now and then..be it yourself or Aus environment..i dont mean to be blunt, but nothing to advise you since u dun even have the right to work there now and environment will definitely change when u got ur PR...for eg, i've few friends still waiting for the PR after 2 years.. so now they told me if they managed to get it, they might not even wanna go there, coz now they have a family already and their job is stable and salary has been revised to good $$..

and plz read more facts to get more information on the Aus migration..where im sure you can google to find....most forums (dont ask me where, i didnt save the bookmark) that i visited, if u ask a simple question, u will be bombarded in every direction, so read your facts and ask smartly..

what i can share with you is, i get information online for about 1+ years about the process and started to know almost everything i needed on the visa class that im applying, and only started asking questions after that about what im unsure.... coz i DIY and didnt engage an agent for my process..dun expect being spoonfeed by forumners... coz everyone have a different case..

This post has been edited by annielee: Aug 31 2011, 09:23 AM

And even though you can qualify for PR, you need to calculate the cost for the application too. PR application will cost you around $2.2k. Also you need to take IELTS(around $350), medical(around $250), police check(around $50), skill assessment(depends which occupation you're on. mostly above $300) and some minor cost. Total up will cost you around $AUD 3k or RM9500.

Is like investment. Invest some money to get either better life(better job and money) or bad life(jobless,etc).

Fortunately I applying TR with my gf(de facto) and the cost is split to the half.

PR visa cost is A$2960 as at now..i still remembered when i applied, its only A$2k..:-)
in MY will be more than that i guess..

During my time..
Visa -> A$2k (its A$2960 now)
IELTS -> RM510
Medicals -> RM150
PCC -> RM20
Skills assessment -> A$300

Now, you need to check for the updated fees...and also factor in agent fees is you are engaging one..


This post has been edited by annielee: Aug 31 2011, 11:35 AM

Wow, the last time i saw(march 2011) is around $2.2k but is either I made a mistake or they just increase the price.
But yeah, it's getting more and more expensive. If your parents is rich then this is not a concern.

Anyway, is not really you won't success in Malaysia too. Or you can try Singapore,etc

Just saw this thread, and I just moved here 4 months ago, and lucky me found a job in just 2 weeks (was offered on the spot). Came with no job, no money, only got honey. Initially I was warned that it will be tough for me to find a job since every tom, d*** and harry has a degree and mine is from a local Uni. They did not even look at my qualifications (as in uni degree lah, but i graduated more than 2 years ago.. so.. no need see anymore lah).

I'm in the IT industry and most of the job opportunities are in Syd (while I'm based in Melbourne). But I would say that, never try never know! Or perhaps I am just a lucky b**** (yes, i'm a female)... Life's good, co-workers great, job is awesome and everything is nicely in place for now.

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Added on August 31, 2011, 6:26 pmBy the way, they revise the immigration fees/rules every year in July.

This post has been edited by static: Aug 31 2011, 06:26 PM

ya, IT got a lot of demand, as long as u r experienced and know ur stuff well, then will not be hard if u r not choosy.....

This post has been edited by annielee: Sep 1 2011, 10:46 AM

IT industry only demanding for experienced people.. It will be a lot tougher for fresh graduate(like me) trying to step in.

Of course da application fees is an issue. Or else I wouldn't have given it a second thought. 10k is not easy to save working in Malaysia. Plus ur starting expenses upon reaching Australia. If ur application fails, ur 10k is as good as nothing. = (

This post has been edited by T3N5AI: Sep 1 2011, 10:26 AM

I would suggest that attitude is another plus point as well. When I first started working, I took a job offer doing SAS which is not a well known field at that time, SAP is wayyy more in demand and pays exceptionally well but I wanted something different. My salary is shit, it was only borderline compared to other uni mates who earn 1k more than me, but i am doing it for the experience. After a while, gaji still shitty since starting salary is low, it's hard to 'jump' esp in the IT line, they will always look at your previous income. When I got here, my experience was recognised though I am no longer doing SAS, and more of a specialised role in the bank. Starting pay is just average, but I guess they were 'evaluating' me still, and now I got a promotion, raise and a permanent role with great benefits.

The fees are expensive, yes, but if you don't sacrifice, you get nothing.

Well, I dunno bout IT, but I'm in da engineering field, to be specific, construction. Isn't dat a sacrifice when my friends in o&g r earning twice to 3 times more than me. And my friends in IB are earning my double.

To me, it's very hard to predict da future of ur occupation. It all lies with responsibility, importance, and economies of scale.

Too many people are doing IT, lots of competition especially I have to compete with Aus grads and have local experience. Yes, they would prefer those with local experience or AUS degree. I was lucky to have some contacts in the IT industry when I first came out to work and told me which 'path' i should take even though I may suffer for few years.

Engineering in Aus is a skill that they are looking isn't it? Saw it somewhere before... I'll post up a link once I manage to find it.

you dont have to 'waste' >10k from the beginning..
the first 2 task u need to get is your skills assessment and IELTS test done..(and these can take few months)
after these 2 are approved, then only u file for the PR application, u also have the option to file later if you dont have enough money as the results is valid for 2 years if im not wrong..

but i will file asap when i got approved for skills and IELTS, to avoid any changes to rules...

I shall heed ur advice and go ahead on these 2 tasks. Ielts is a must and the tests are held all year round, unless there is a special paper for PR applicants.

Skills assessment test on da other hand, I dun think I have any info on this but I shall check it out.

Thanks for da advice. Do u mind if I pm u if I have any queries?