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TSSorento Malaysia
post Aug 23 2011, 11:53 AM, updated 15y ago

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We are always heard about "stainless steel 304".
What is this? What is the benefits?
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Currently, stainless steel 304 is widely used in a lot of industries which including:

1. Kitchen sink, troughs, and appliances

2. Food Processing equipment

3. Springs

4. Heat Exchanger

And more, please click to this link: http://www.azom.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=965


The benefits of the stainless steel 304 are:

1. Corrosion Resistance

2. Aesthetic(shinning) Appearance

3. Fire and heat resistance

4. Hygiene

5. Ease of Fabrication

6. Long term value

7. Impact resistance

If you interested with the benefits of stainless steel 304, please click to this link: http://www.wilkinsonsteel.com/Stainless/benefits.htm

This post has been edited by Sorento Malaysia: Aug 23 2011, 03:43 PM
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post Aug 23 2011, 01:52 PM

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All 304 SS will rust, is not rust proof. Especially weather in Malaysia and the recent quality we get from 304.

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post Aug 23 2011, 02:50 PM

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pardon me but isn't it 316 a better grade?
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post Aug 23 2011, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 23 2011, 01:52 PM)
All 304 SS will rust, is not rust proof. Especially weather in Malaysia and the recent quality we get from 304.
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Agreed.But i think mostly they order from those con supplier who brought from china and claim it from MY.


Added on August 23, 2011, 2:57 pm
QUOTE(kochin @ Aug 23 2011, 02:50 PM)
pardon me but isn't it 316 a better grade?
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Ya better grade but very expensive lol

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post Aug 23 2011, 03:18 PM

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304 is pretty standard stuff and not as anti-corrosive as 316. Some better sinks are made with 316 and thus more expensive.
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post Aug 23 2011, 03:25 PM

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any comparable price different between same model/design but using 316 and 304 ?
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post Aug 23 2011, 03:33 PM

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Some are mix, top is 316, bottom 304. Some hospital sink suppler told me.
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post Aug 23 2011, 04:01 PM

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This is really good info. So conclusion 316 is better than 304. rclxms.gif

So Sorento Malaysia do you agree? From your website, the material for some bathroom accessories are made from Stainless Steel 304. Your plant is in China. Then how ah ???? hmm.gif

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And pay more too.
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post Aug 23 2011, 05:12 PM

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Genuine SS 316 will not rust and cos much much more than SS 304 smile.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Aug 23 2011, 05:01 PM)
This is really good info. So conclusion 316 is better than 304.  rclxms.gif

So Sorento Malaysia do you agree? From your website, the material for some bathroom accessories are made from Stainless Steel 304. Your plant is in China. Then how ah ???? hmm.gif
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That's why Sorento is much cheaper than Blanco. Blanco is using 316. However, whether it is good value to pay for 316 or not is a different matter. Personally, I do not think the difference is that great to justify the significant cost of 316 over 304 for most people.
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post Aug 23 2011, 05:36 PM

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hmm.gif hmm.gif i dont think TS mention 304 is the best Stainless steel in the market~he just sharing sum benefit no need shoot to china so far brows.gif brows.gif ~so does not matter lo biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bingzz @ Aug 23 2011, 06:36 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif i dont think TS mention 304 is the best Stainless steel in the market~he just sharing sum benefit no need shoot to china so far brows.gif  brows.gif ~so does not matter lo biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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True. But then again, what is 304 can compare against? Granite sinks? I actually love my granite sinks better than the stainless steel sinks whether it is 304 or 316! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 09:30 PM

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FYI it is very hard to get 316 grade stainless steel sinks. Blanco is made of 304 grade and not 316 grade.
http://www.blancoamerica.com/c3/blanco_usa...nless_steel.cfm

If u compare King Kong water tank 316 grade vs 304, the price is almost double. Usually sinks and bathrooms accessories are made of 304 grade as it will not rust. However, most hospitals will go for items with 316 grade as they are treated with chemicals to kill bacteria. For household, 304 grade is good enough and will not rust but if u r using chemicals or acids, you nd 316. If you notice, 98% of the stainless steel water tanks that you see are 304 grade, if those will not rust, why will bathroom accessories with 304 grade rust? Reason, they are not pure 304 grade. Sorento's accessories are 304 and will not rust unless your damaged the surface or pour acid or chemicals on it.

Here is an example of something not 304
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So, how do we know whether it is really 304 or not? You could not differentiate between 316, 304 or any grades unless u test it with chemicals. So, here is where branding kicks in. If you buy a cheap and without brand items, most probably it is not 304 while u get from Sorento or Blanco or Teka, they are definitely 304 grade, will not cheat consumers.

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post Aug 23 2011, 11:24 PM

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Also if use the acid water to unblock the drain, the 304 sink will stain and change color. So be careful.
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post Aug 23 2011, 11:58 PM

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Are this really ss304 or just a layer onto of the metal layer? Cause real ss304 or ss303 material can't be rust.

I deal a lot of ss material. Never see it rust before.
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just put ur stainless steel water tank under the roof without sun light and without good ventilation, after some time, you will c it rust.
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ss304 < ss316 < ss316L < there's even 317/317L or higher than that..

wanna be good? go buy few lengths of ss pipes (try pantech, from johor or kaizen tetsu, shah alam). and get a argon welding specialist if u r rich haha

anything can rust, even stainless steel. gold la very very hard to oxide, but now price super expensive =)

cheers


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Get Titanium better. Much lighter and stronger biggrin.gif
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I have a ss plate cover the ventilator fan from rain water for 13yrs. Never see it rust at all. I throw those ss scrap material outside that prompt to rain and water. Never see it rust.

I use it to handle chemical. And it can stand for many many yrs.


Added on August 24, 2011, 12:28 am
QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 24 2011, 12:19 AM)
Get Titanium better. Much lighter and stronger biggrin.gif
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I deal a lot with titanium too. Titanium is not strong. But have a corrosive resistance and heat resistance.

But in long run, it will slowly eat up too by very corrosive chemical. But better a lot than ss.

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