QUOTE(cracksys @ Feb 10 2012, 10:40 AM)
its a 5 minutes chat and i didn't miss anything.
furthermore, he's adamant in telling me that this is not TRUST FUND but instead a SAVING. i've been in PB website and didn't find any extra info thus, my post in here.
anyway, i'll get extra info when i bump into him again. thanks.
public mutual managing the trust funds, not as the saving acc. one of the fund name is saving fund, but still unit trust.
for beginner like u, shud know abt the service charge in unit trsut, WHILE, no service charge for saving acc. u better ask abt the service charge with ur agent. if, the agent says,yes, .....................confirm it is TRUST FUND.
this for u..........
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TAKE THIS AS UNIT TRUST SELLING MATERIAL/ PROMOTING UT. READERS SHOULD UNDERSTAND ABT UT BY READING THE MASTER PROSPECTUS BEFORE DOES INVESTMENT. THE UNIT PRICE MAY GOES DOWN AND GOES UP FOLLOW THE MARKET TREND. INVESTING IN UNIT TRSUT IS WITH UR OWN RISK. AND PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF FUTURE PERFORMANCE.-----------------------------------------------------------------
How to Calculate Service Charge and the affects of market condition?
Example :
Let assume that an investor invest RM10,000 in a fund where the price is RM0.50 on that day(NAV). The service charge is 5.5% per unit on NAV price which is RM0.50.
Amount invested / NAV Per unit
RM10,000 / RM0.50 = 20,000 units
Service charge per unit = NAV per unit x Service Charge(%)
= RM0.50 x 5.5%
= RM0.0275
So, The total service Charge incurred by Investor is
= Service Charge per unit x Units credited to investor
= Rm0.0275 x 20,000 units
= RM550.00
Following the above, the total amount payable by investor is
= Amount invested + service charge
= RM10,000 + RM550
= RM10,550
tapi biasanya, SC dipotong dari amount invested,
katakan capital adalah RM10,550
formula untuk SC adalah;
SC =Service charge = 5.50% per unit of NAV.
(A) = capital = RM10550
SC = (10,550) – [(10,550) / (1+5.5%)],
SC = RM10550 – RM10550/(1+ 0.055),
SC = RM10550 – RM10550 / 1.055
SC = Rm10550 – RM10,000
Sc = RM550.
What is the affect of SC if buy at diff unit price.
As the above when the price is RM0.50, SC 5.5% =
= RM0.0275 for per unit.
For 20,000 units = RM550.00
Let say the price increase to RM0.60 with the same SC,
RM0.60 x 5.5%
= RM0.033 per unit.
For 20,000 units
20,000 x RM0.033
RM660.00
Let say the price goes down to RM0.40 with the same SC.
RM0.40 x 5.5%
RM0.022 per unit
For 20,000 units,
20,000 x RM0.022
RM440
Conclusion,
For the same SC, if the unit price is goes down, SC will be less for per-unit and vice-versa.
Above calculation base on SC per unit.
Let’s calculate base of amount paid and the affect of same 5.5% SC.
If the unit price RM0.50,
For the amount paid RM10550, total units purchased is 20,000 as per shows above.
For the unit price RM0.60,
SC =Service charge = 5.50% per unit of NAV.
(A) = capital = RM10550
SC = (10,550) – [(10,550) / (1+5.5%)],
SC = RM10550 – RM10550/(1+ 0.055),
SC = RM10550 – RM10550 / 1.055
SC = Rm10550 – RM10,000
Sc = RM550.
So, the SC is RM550.
So, RM10550 – RM550 = balance = RM10,000
Units = RM10,000 / RM0.60
= 16,666.66 units.
For the unit price RM0.40,
SC =Service charge = 5.50% per unit of NAV.
(A) = capital = RM10550
SC = (10,550) – [(10,550) / (1+5.5%)],
SC = RM10550 – RM10550/(1+ 0.055),
SC = RM10550 – RM10550 / 1.055
SC = Rm10550 – RM10,000
Sc = RM550.
So, the SC is RM550.
So, RM10550 – RM550 = balance = RM10,000
Units = RM10,000 / RM0.40
= 25,000 units.
Conclusion;
For the capital RM10,550;
If the unit price RM0.40, will get 25,000 units
If the unit price RM0.50, will get 20,000 units
If the unit price RM0.60, will get 16,666.66 units
SO,
If the unit price getting lower and lower, Will get more units for same amount of capital with same SC and vice-versa.
this is beginning only, and u need to educate yourself more abt unit trust if u want make profits.
Added on February 10, 2012, 10:56 amQUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 10 2012, 09:13 AM)
Beware of holding too long heheh - like some of my buddies in 2009 end to 2010 end.
KLCI has been running up since Nov/Dec 2011 (contrary to the prevailing fear/gloom of Euro & MY's post election)
Personally, i beh tahan in Dec, holding too much cash & bonds (DOUBLE the planned % of my Asset Allocation).
Forced myself to buy chunks of PIX, PFEPRF, stocks and REITs to peter down my Fixed Income assets to less crazy %.
Just a thought

tak untung tak-pe, tapi jangan rugi-loh.
i think for cash, can do ddi, but from epf, better think first. waht i worry is abt the next election will affect the market.
This post has been edited by kparam77: Feb 10 2012, 10:56 AM