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post Nov 1 2011, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(joekaifeng @ Nov 1 2011, 06:24 PM)
hi guys, i m comparing PSF and PEF using the latest quarterly fund review.

but i'm quite confused. hopefully you guys can help me...

here are some info:
PEF asset allocation:
3.33% - money market instruments & others
96.67% - equities

top 5 sector
financial 32.65%
communications 23.12%
consumer, cyclical 11.43%
industrial 10.22%
utilities 6.72%

top 5 holdings
PBB
CIMB
Tenaga
Telekom
RHB

PSF asset allocation:
3.05% - money market instruments & others
96.95% - equities

top 5 sectors
financial 33.80%
industrial 16.84%
consumer, non cyclical 11.23%
communications 9.61%
basic material 7.83%

top 5 holdings
PBB
CIMB
Petronas
Sime Darby
IOI

both fund's asset allocation are similar but i wonder why PEF is categorized as aggressive fund and PSF is moderate fund?

currently i'm holding PSF, and want to invest in PEF. Does this mean my portfolio overlap?
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a few type of stocks,
small cap - normaly penny stocks
middle cap - dividedns stocks,
big cap - dividends n growht stocks

http://pk31-tips.blogspot.com/2011/10/mark...on-matters.html



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moderate - dividends n growht stocks, allocation for dividedns stock could more than others.
aggressive - dividedns stocks coluld be less than others.

the stocks holding can be found in reports.
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/OurProducts...tatementFS.aspx

eventhough both look similar in asselt allocation, but the investment objective is still diff. so, the holding stocks diff too.

PSF - long term capital appreciation, at the same time producing a reasonable level of income/dividedns.
PEF - capital growth through the aggressive selection of growth stocks from diversified economic sectors.


for ur portfolio, go to http://pk31-tips.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-...-portfolio.html

or, u can hv ur own formula for ur portfolio, its depends on ur risk tolerance.
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post Nov 12 2011, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(genesic @ Nov 12 2011, 10:36 AM)
hey guys
regarding the public mutual online,
now i used to buy my unit trust online by myself.

1. Do my agent still get his commission on my purchase if it was done online?
2. i was planning to be a unit trust seller myself so the commisssion will goes back to me instead of the agent, what is the way to be one?

Now all these can be done through online,
I'm wondering what's the purpose of those agents anymore?
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1. yes, if u choose him as your agent in investmnt step 3. if u choose none, company will default as agent for u.

2. u need to get 1 introducer, n sit for exam. go to http://www.pk31-job.blogspot.com

- agents for guide/educated thier clients n also to take care their UT investment/portfolio.
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post Nov 12 2011, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Nov 12 2011, 07:36 PM)
I am interested to be a unit trust agent. Any requirement and step to be a unit trust agent?

Thanks..
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go to http://www.pk31-job.blogspot.com
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post Nov 14 2011, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(soulzerowen @ Nov 14 2011, 09:01 AM)
guy~ i wanna to know how to set agent in public mutual online via intial investment? from the tab bar i  only can choose "NONE" and "SELECT"... when i choose select nothing come out
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if u dont hv any agent, than u need to choose for none.
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post Nov 20 2011, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(kinmanfong88 @ Nov 20 2011, 02:44 AM)
To all sifus,

Just aking, is it better to buy UT online (like Fundsupermart), or the normal way (agent)?

The main benefit i can think of going online is the low cost of fees, but then there will be no agent to guide you.

Anyone here using Fundsupermart and what do you think? (too bad it doesnt offer any Public Bank UT, though..)

Thanks in advance!
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if u new to UT, it better to hv agent first.
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post Nov 22 2011, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(anglee82 @ Nov 22 2011, 01:36 PM)
when PB justnow...a agent was there to promote this fund said my 100k put into FD is pointless

if i want to invest 100k..but the initial 5%service charge ==5k is alot...is this normal for all kind of funds??

if i invested 100k...roughly how much can i earn in 3-5 years? ( i know the market goes up and down)
but based on average rate and rough figure onli..by sifu expectation

will this PBGSQF cause losess? like example  i invested 100k...4-5years later market down...i left 70-80k only??

do i nid to make monthly payment/addition invesment??

thanks to all sifu here thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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UT is for medium to lng term.
the return depends on the fund performence.
if market down, most of the equity funds will down as well include PBGSQF.
no guarantee for the returns, UT investment with ur own RISK.
5.5% service charge is normal for equity funds.

funds like PSF, PRSF, PGF and other good funds have generated better returns compare with FD for the past 10 yrs. bear in mind, past performance is not indicative for future performance.

if u have enough money in FD as emegency, u can split ur RM100k, in BONDS fund some (service charge only 0.25%)and equity fund some.
and u still can split for equity fund as regular investment. not advicible to pump all the money at current market trend unless market revocer from very very bad. below 1000 CI.

or just leave the money in FD, later u can investment when the market stable.

educate your self abt UT first before decide to enter.






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post Nov 22 2011, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(l3iTi @ Nov 22 2011, 04:07 PM)
wat if anglee82 split the 100k investment into two?
initial setup, put 1k
after setup only dump the balance 99k

so only will be charged 5.5% on the 1k only.
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wow, like this also can-ah? where got?

service charge will be apllies for every transactions.
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post Nov 22 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Nov 22 2011, 06:29 PM)
I redeem some of my BOND FUND. I call customer service, it said need 10 days ! (Public Bank Account somemore !)
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today I redeem my bond too.

abt 3 weeks back, I redeem my equity fund, got money before 10 days.
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post Nov 22 2011, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(anglee82 @ Nov 22 2011, 05:39 PM)
1st thank you desertkids for the pointer

wow...10-15% return per anul? for 10 years?
that means 10k per anul so after 10years can take back 200k?(plus capital)?

reli new to Unit trust...scared to PB salemen want to profit so abit scared to ask much...will take ur advice and look for pb unit trust consultant.

last question...is it wish to invest now during this time..even  the PB salemen talking abt market heading down which i hv no idea..
i tot going down means bad....but this PB salemen said now gud time  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
nope...it seem eveytime u invest or put money into the fund they charge 5%
but if u take money out no charge
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its ur money, and u must ask Q as more as u can until u get the clear picture.

THE MORE U ASK, THE MORE KNOWLEDGE U WILL GET.

UT like stock, buy cheap, sell high for profits, either u wait for really cheaper price or apply DDI to average the price.

if market down, the unit price will cheaper. when the market recover, the unit price will higher and u can make profits.

buy cheap, is not mean u can buy any funds. u must reasearch/analize/ the fund risk factor n the fund past performance.
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post Nov 22 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(anglee82 @ Nov 22 2011, 05:39 PM)
1st thank you desertkids for the pointer

wow...10-15% return per anul? for 10 years?
that means 10k per anul so after 10years can take back 200k?(plus capital)?

reli new to Unit trust...scared to PB salemen want to profit so abit scared to ask much...will take ur advice and look for pb unit trust consultant.

last question...is it wish to invest now during this time..even  the PB salemen talking abt market heading down which i hv no idea..
i tot going down means bad....but this PB salemen said now gud time  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
nope...it seem eveytime u invest or put money into the fund they charge 5%
but if u take money out no charge
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RULE72: double the money in how many years. if the average return 8% = 72/8 = 9 yrs. that mean if the fund can generate average 8% annualy, can double the money in 9 yrs.

well ASB in this catogary.

private UT, u can keep between 5 -10%. if u r lucky can get more.
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post Nov 25 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Nov 25 2011, 09:38 PM)
Actually, after some 'encouragement' from member here, I'm also already become my best agent. Although, RM30K might not be a problem for this year, next year I need to think for outsource.

I like the CAMS software, so that another RM90 + RM100 for agent license. Somemore need to attend training RM10 per class. Right now I believe I paid that for knowledge.
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welcome to UTC world.

30K per annum still achievable.

10 epf sales, 1 case 1 month, each 3-5K, very easy to achieve.

did u attend the 101 and quikstart training? if not, attend this class n also cams/FP advisor class. very usefull for new comers like u.
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post Nov 26 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 26 2011, 02:05 PM)
I see... then you are lucky enough, you became an agent before this RM30k sales target rule set up. Somemore I was told the passing mark from next year onwards will be 70% (old passing mark is 60%).

I am holding the agent application form, don't know want to go for exam or not.
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wait for waht? just get it done. just go through the examples of exam paper. if u dont hv any, PM me at kparam77@yahoo.com. i will email it to u. 5 sets.
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post Nov 26 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Violet Ling @ Nov 26 2011, 04:58 PM)
How many classes we must attend before taking exam?

Can we be agent for two different unit trust company?
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1. 1 day CUTE clss.
2. no, 1 UTMC only, if u want to move other UTMC, need to resign first current UTMC.
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post Nov 26 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 26 2011, 09:10 PM)
am reviewing my PFES holdings and for the past 4 years, the returns have been very volatile.

been reading the latest fund review and seems like 60% of the stock holdings are in China.

would it make sense to divest the holdings in PFES and buy something less volatile, such as REIT or dividend stock? i know both are in different class/category, but if look from the perspective of total returns over the years, my gut feeling is that REIT/dividend stock will have better return over the long term.

all comments are welcomed.
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do div stock less volatile?

but dividedns stock still give div in any trend.

u still can concider to switch from PFES to moderate risk fund like dividends funds if u want dividedns every year.

or u can switch to those funds has less allocation in china.

PFES maybe not perform well currentlly, who knows it perform well in future.

decision is yours.
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post Nov 28 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(soulzerowen @ Nov 28 2011, 09:55 AM)
i have a noob question... 22/11/11 is public holiday but pm still saw the price on 22/11/11 ??
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it could be those funds expose to foreign market.
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post Nov 28 2011, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(soulzerowen @ Nov 28 2011, 11:05 AM)
mean forgein fund? i quite blur for the pm on holiday= =
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if today is public holiday for malaysia, those funds with expose to foreign market (yesterday trading) will be update today. because those foreign exporsure funds will updte the price in the next day for malaysia time (if diff time zon).
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post Nov 28 2011, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(soulzerowen @ Nov 28 2011, 11:39 AM)
YEAH~but i didnt saw it update today for the forgein fund.. so i feel weird = =
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ya its look weirs too, all the price should shows dated 25/11 .. if the last trading date for local and foreign.
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post Dec 8 2011, 01:26 PM

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FIMM’s Requirements for UTCs & CPD Points.

Computerized Unit Trust Examinations (CUTE)
Effective 1 Jan 2012, Candidates who wish to sit for the CUTE have to fulfill the following criteria as required by the Federation of Investment managers Malaysia (FIMM):
1) Must obtain credits in either BM, English or mandarin and Mathematics in SPM.
2) Passing mark for CUTE is raised to 75% instead of 60% to enhance competency and knowledge of UTC.
3) UTC who has left the industry for more than 3 years is required to re-sit and pass the CUTE.


Continuous Progressive Development (CPD)
All UTCs must obtain a total of 24 CPD points by December 2012. The 24 CPD points must be accumulated for a period of two years from 2011 to 2012. UTCs will be allowed to utilize any CPD points obtained in 2010 for meeting the total of 24 points required for 2011 and 2012. Thereafter, 16 points for each subsequent year.

UTC are urged to attend courses, seminars and workshops organized by the company to fulfill the CPD points, as well as enhance their financial and investment knowledge.

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post Dec 29 2011, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(spiderman@lyn @ Dec 29 2011, 10:23 AM)
Periodically I receive Statement from PM. How do I calculate my profit/loss from the information provided from the statement?
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the latest balance units X latest price = profit/loss
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post Dec 29 2011, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ash_9 @ Dec 29 2011, 03:59 PM)
Hi all,

i need some advise on unit trust matter. I had invested some amount into my fund and i got this email from the agent.

:Pls be informed your bond funds u have invested with us is now making a 3.7 growth @ 666.83 profit as at 12/10/2011 closing price.

Meanwhile, would like to suggest to average down your cost by placing additional investment of 40% of your initial investment. The market sentiment is very volatile for the last quater of 2011. The initial cost was 0.6066(NAV) when invested at 1sy quater of this year. The latest NAV of this fund is at 0.516. Thus, with this additional investment it will lower down the cost of 0.6066 as well. It will also helps the investor to breakeven  the profit when the NAV surges.

Can anyone pls explain me abt this and your advise pls.
I appreciate for your time. Thanks.
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u can ask ur agent to email u the latest stsment. u will know abt the profit/lost.
ur agent email u on oct, by the time now the price already diff, up or down.

is there any dividedns declared for ur bond fund before oct, if yes, sure the price will drp after the divididedn.
top up during lower price will give u more profit if the price appreciate. n also can average down ur buying price as per explain by deserkids.

buy cheap sell high for profits.

u better check again with ur agent.

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