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PhantomThief
post Aug 26 2011, 11:18 AM

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Just a quick question guys, I'm a bit of a newbie to Android so forgive me if I'm being daft.

I'm on a SGS2 from DiGi under smart plan, but the battery life has been abysmal. So I'm going to flash it to the XXKH3 ROM. Obviously, this means I'll lose the Malaysia/DiGi specific CSC. Will this ruin anything, or will it be as simple as just re-entering the APN values?

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post Aug 26 2011, 11:25 AM

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Thanks for the quick response guys, I appreciate it smile.gif

It's been a bit of a bumpy ride since I switched over to the "dark side" (used to have an iPhone tongue.gif) but hopefully this firmware update will get rid of the annoying battery problems.

QUOTE(Bugeca @ Aug 26 2011, 08:52 AM)
Nothing much on CSC apart from APN settings. You can manually configured it, and if your SIM card has the info you do not need to do anything at all.
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QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Aug 26 2011, 08:52 AM)
not sure bout the diff between postpaid n prepaid (i'm using umobile prepaid internet), had been flashing like hell and nvr need to adjust the apn value. can use immediately after flash without any problem  smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2011, 11:31 AM

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I'm just expecting it to last one day on medium use, with GPS off and 3G on for most of the day. That's not unrealistic, is it? Cause right now I'm only getting about 12 hours, with Android OS and Android System taking up a fair bit of battery. Flashing from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 should at least help, right?

QUOTE(mydragoon @ Aug 26 2011, 08:57 AM)
please dun expect the battery to last like 2 days... or even be on par with iphone. coz... with android, you can have things running in background, etc... the key is to have the right understanding and expectation... and then manage the battery.
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post Aug 26 2011, 02:41 PM

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I defined my moderate use as:

1 FB account
1 Twitter account
Widgets: Engadget/weather/cnn
1 Gmail account
Skype
Viber
Whatsapp

Mostly set to push, those that require sync set for 1 hour, except for weather which is updated every 3 hours. Some intermittent use of games and GPS, but nothing heavy.

I think most people would agree that my definition of moderate is pretty alright.
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post Aug 26 2011, 03:46 PM

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That's basically the kind of battery life I'm hoping for. Fingers crossed!

QUOTE(madlocke @ Aug 26 2011, 01:07 PM)
my leomar 2.6 + ninpo 212 + kh3 modem = 22hrs still left 20% when i plugged in just now..

3g always on, except 9pm - 9am when the wifi is on at home (i think 3g auto off)..

2+ hrs browsing and 3 hrs listen to music.. with some calls/sms/im+ in between..  thumbup.gif
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post Aug 26 2011, 03:55 PM

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+1

It's a pity battery technology hasn't quite been able to keep up with the advances in computing power and screen technology.

QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Aug 26 2011, 01:23 PM)
do u reli expect flashing other rom will do the magic for u? doh.gif
5 hours surfing continuously i think even nokia most long lasting phone oso will kong, dun even mention SGSII wif 4.3" wide screen. flashing other rom may give u a bit better battery life if currently u're suffering from wifi sharing bug/AOS bug or any other stock issue; but surfing 5 hours and claiming that battery life sucks is.... way to idealistic  doh.gif

anyway... TG its friday  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 26 2011, 06:11 PM

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Another question, is there any way to name the phone, like in iPhone I could call it, say "PhantomThief's Captain McPhone" using itunes and it would appear when connecting to other networks and such. Is that possible with the SGS2?
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post Aug 27 2011, 10:01 AM

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Did a little experiment last night to see how much juice the phone uses when left to its own devices. I basically only left 3G/HSDPA on and switched off GPS/Wifi/Bluetooth and the rest. I also switched on BetterBatteryStats to monitor for any apps that might cause wake or partial waketimes.

8 hours 30 minutes later the battery fall to 85%, a majority of the battery taken up by Android OS and Cell Standby and nothing really standing out in waketime list. I'm assuming this is pretty much normal for an Android phone, correct?

If so, looks like it's time for a new charge schedule. I'm gonna start charging overnight so that I can start the day with 100%, because I don't think 85% is going to last me the entire day. At least not now while I'm still treating the phone like a new toy tongue.gif

Edit: Unless, of course, I switch off 3G as well. I wonder how much battery that would leave me with. Or maybe even force it to stay on EDGE, that could be even better. Sounds like it's time for a few new experiments biggrin.gif

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Haha, yep, you just caught me before the edit. Sorry la, just woke up, brain not yet warm up tongue.gif

Gonna try to switch off 3G but use EDGE instead tonight, and then I'll try with mobile data off altogether on Sunday night. Should be interesting biggrin.gif

QUOTE(destEX @ Aug 27 2011, 07:34 AM)
why dont you off 3g/HSDPA, then it'll most probably be at 95% then when you wake up, plug into charger and charge, before go work, unplug lor
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post Aug 27 2011, 11:38 AM

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That's interesting. How many people here use cases/screen protectors for their phones? I'm currently using a silicon case and matte screen protector, but it's kinda pissing me off. Very tempted to just use it naked, but I'm afraid it'll get scratched up faster than an idiot who steps on a cat's tail. Any experience from anyone using it naked?
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I'm really damn tempted to bring my S2 around naked now, but I think I'm still too afraid at this point xD

Btw, I'm very tempted to root to get rid of bloatware, but I'm also quite afraid. Is there any simple and safe way to root for XXKH3 firmware?
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If I follow your advice and I end up scratching my baby, will you buy me a new one? tongue.gif

On a more serious note though, how is litening rom vs stock KH3? Also, I'm assuming that flashing with litening rom will wipe the memory from my phone?
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That's cause it's BetterBatteryStats, not batter. And you'll find it on the XDA forum with a download link there. Just google BetterBatteryStats and you'll find it smile.gif

QUOTE(ice666 @ Aug 27 2011, 10:51 AM)
thanx for the headsup.. couldnt find the #4 BatterBatteryStats on the market
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post Aug 27 2011, 03:17 PM

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Gonna flash with Litening 6.1 now. God help us all.
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post Aug 27 2011, 04:25 PM

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Lite'ning ROM 6.1 successfully installed, along with SetCPU and Gemini App Manager to undervolt and freeze bloatware respectively biggrin.gif
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Sorry mate, not a clue.
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post Aug 27 2011, 08:36 PM

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Definitely. GPS is a gigantic battery hog.

QUOTE(keyzjh @ Aug 27 2011, 05:44 PM)
Wow just installed BetterBatteryStats and Android Assistant, found out Lookout actually uses the most CPU % and causes wake locks yawn.gif

Quite surprising for me, as I've been playing games for one and a half hours..

Btw, does anyone know if toggling the GPS off in settings uses less battery?
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post Aug 28 2011, 02:33 PM

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Well, it all depends on how you use it and how well you take care of your phone. For example, I was previously on the iPhone 2G for almost 4 years, before I finally switched here to the SGS2. So I know I am capable of taking care of my phone. Also, I will be using my SGS2 as a wifi hotspot quite frequently, so data becomes quite important to me.

That's why I took the 2 year rm68 plan, because it's the best fit for me. YMMV biggrin.gif

QUOTE(mydragoon @ Aug 28 2011, 11:26 AM)
personally, I say no coz the discount is not double of the 1yr plan.in fact, for sgs2, the rm48 plan gives the best deal, imho.
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post Aug 28 2011, 05:13 PM

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Here's the logic the way I see it:

The RAM is probably filled with data that the programs, including the Android system, requires at one point or another. So when you click "clear RAM", my assumption is that it will clear any non-essential data in the RAM, in other words, anything that isn't needed to keep the phone running is shut off.

Now over the course of the night, the phone may once again attempt to perform certain functions or procedures, but the data it requires is no longer contained in the RAM, and thus it needs to reload all the information once again, perhaps from the kernel or some other system files, back into the RAM. This would account for the consumption of the battery by the Android System.

As for exiting all applications, unless the application has been set by the user or is some rogue app that restarts itself, exiting them stops the multitasking while retaining the data needed by Android within the RAM. This would save on processing power while eliminating the need for Android to reload.

That is the logical explanation as I see it, please correct me if I'm wrong wink.gif

QUOTE(wayfeel @ Aug 28 2011, 12:17 PM)
when sleep overnight, i "clear RAM memory" at task manager to used RAM 270-300MB.

then in the battery use, "android system" was higher than idle . and 6-8hrs overnight will drop 2-4%

otherwise , i don't clear RAM, instead i just exit all application (RAM 300-350MB). and after overnight, it drops 0-2% only...

i might sound ridiculous as if complaining, im not. im just wanting to understand this dept or logic.

my logic was
1/ i thought reducing RAM is use less electric but in this case, not so.

2/ and this "android system" seem to more prominent when i clear RAM than exit applications and uses more juice overnight

i just thought anyone had R&D this before lol
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That is some insane battery life, bro. Would you mind sharing some info/links about these apps that can prevent deep sleep? Cause even when I switch to EDGE overnight and having killed off a fair bit of bloatware, I still only get just about a day's worth of battery out of it.

QUOTE(blugear @ Aug 28 2011, 03:11 PM)
3G and wifi both on and I using the phone as normal la.. sms, whatsapp, few calls, camera, market, surf abit..

Well as mention in xda forum if u install some rubbish app ur phone wont be able to go into deep sleep and ur battery keeps draining la.. So install apps that u really using.. otherwise freeze the app with TBUP
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