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post Sep 5 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(starrynight @ Sep 5 2012, 09:57 AM)
My hamster is a winter white with a 6.5 inches in diameter wheel which is just nice for him. His back doesn't arch. I'm thinking it might be the wheel. Too light or something. He likes to push his wheel down though - like he hated it or it gets in his way of burrowing. I'm looking to buy the ones you mentioned above - the medium size one. I really hope it's just a wheel problem. He likes running in the ball and all but during his most active hours, no one can let him go running in the ball. Getting chubby cause he eats and no exercise.

Another thing, is it possible he never "learned" how to do some hamster stuff? In the pet shop, he had no wheel and nothing to climb on. Now give him tunnels and wheel, he rarely get on them. He looked uncomfortable climbing up tunnels and if higher, he will slip.
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There might be a high chance its because of the wheel. Its quite rare for them not to learn how to use it. My hamster at first also don't really know how to use so I put him on the wheel & cover so he can't jump down. He walked for a while but still like not so sure how to use. Then midnight all the sudden I hear him running on it already...

Before I was using cheap small wheel too when first bought it. He didn't use that till I read more stuff on hamsters & changed the wheel.
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post Sep 10 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(bakabakayaro @ Sep 10 2012, 12:04 PM)
that fella selling the aspen bedding no news geh
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i heard his seller ffk him....so i guess no aspen bedding in malaysia sad.gif unless somebody willing to do bulk purchase through amazon & sell it laugh.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 12:15 AM

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went plc & bought a new bedding for my hamster. Its called homefriends & seems like a new product in plc. Plc seems to focus on this bedding more already & not restocking on others & i guess they can monopolize it since i didnt see other petshops selling it yet laugh.gif

Anyways its really good bedding, completely safe for hamster since its stated 100% recycled soft paper. No need worry about pine etc...plus texture is really soft. But sad thing is its quite expensive leh. I bought 10L for rm36 (10% discount), so i mixed with my old bedding that is going to finish. I might consider mixing with other bedding or just use homefriends purely. But quite expensive although its very good cry.gif I guess i am going to stick with this brand for quite some time now flex.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(babybb @ Sep 12 2012, 11:13 AM)
@Infer
Mind to take a pix of your bedding. Been googling but not sure which 1 i might wanna change a better bedding for my hammy. Currently using vitakraft but felt the materials quite rough. Here share some pix of my hammie & his new playground that i brought for him

Oh hi guys!!! I'm hamtari  biggrin.gif  ---> This is my new playground  blush.gif

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sure no problem...will take & upload it later afternoon but bedding is very soft i feel. There is a sample on how the bedding looks like in plc sunway, they got pack it in a transparent plastic for people to look at it. But its quite small & soft so for those hamsters who like to burrow in their bedding might not be able to burrow deep unless you use a lot (which is expensive rolleyes.gif )

Thats why i go mix with my old bedding that is going to finish laugh.gif plus this new bedding got some kind of anti bacteria thingy brows.gif There is a pdf file available online if you want to read about it
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(babybb @ Sep 12 2012, 11:25 AM)
Thanks for sharing the pix starry. I think i might change as well but scare my hammie not use to it as he was using vitakraft all the while. Oh the playground i brought it at Mr. DIY. Kinda hard to find it i been searching almost few outlets & finally found it at bukit mertajam outlets  sweat.gif

Worth the found i guess. Hamtari love it so much  tongue.gif  At least he no need to boring.
Thanks inferno. Appreciate ur effort.. Hehe.. i think i gonna mix with vitakraft as well as my hammy cage are kinda big.. surely will be very fast to finish  sweat.gif
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the bedding dosent look like that excatly because i mix 50% with my previous bedding & 50% new bedding.

bedding looks like in starrynight picture. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 14 2012, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(starrynight @ Sep 13 2012, 07:28 AM)
NoOoOoo.. don't drool near my Hazieball.  icon_question.gif


Added on September 14, 2012, 12:09 amwhat do you guys do with your hamster's fingernails that got long? i scared to cut le but got other alternative ah?
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i am having the same problem. Quite scared to cut it myself so thinking of bringing to a vet. I manage to shorten his front nails though because there is a spot where he like to do digging so i put sandpaper at there & it trims his nails within a week. Didnt trim his back nails though sad.gif
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(starrynight @ Sep 19 2012, 09:55 AM)
anyone wants a winter pearl hamster?  helping someone to rehome the hamster. poor hammie is being tormented each day by small kids sad.gif

adoption fee : RM 10

I'm looking for trustworthy people who can really take care of the hamster and give it the best life. Age is less than 1 year old.

Not recommended for first timer as they might bite and need some taming. Being pushed around and disturbed daily by humans made them scared.
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there is a dedicated adoption thread in this forum...you can try to post it at there too
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post Sep 22 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(tjaime1984 @ Sep 21 2012, 07:24 PM)
that day my 2 hamster gv birth to 8 babies,but few days later all gone. anyone knw what happen? i saw 1 not moving then gone ady. i separate 2 female wic going to deliver to another cage. im nt sure they re feeding or nt. is it i m wrong to separate them? nw they can get bck to previous cage as saw they re nt welcoming them. seem to fight.

luckily my another brown gv birth in the big cage suddenly. got 5 babies, tis mother protect n fed them.hopefully they can survive.

when i can c them grow up like kingsin84? hope to c that.

can i put bck the separate female just like that into the big cage? anyone can help me?
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follow what the forumers advice & read the first page. All the info is available at there.

Also i would advice anybody who wishes to bread their hamster to do lots & lots of research before deciding to breed. There are a lot of things you guys need to read & consider because once the hamster is pregnant there is no going back & if anything happened, you guys need to be prepared. You guys need to know what to do immediately.

breeding isnt that hard but you guys need to read up first before proceeding. good luck icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 23 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(tjaime1984 @ Sep 22 2012, 10:34 PM)
y some say separate some say no ned separate. nw make me vry confuse. the 2 females deliver at the same time in other cage. both taking care mayb too stress coz sometimes i go peep on them. nw im joining the ovo suite to another habitrail cage.space bigger. the brown female gv birth inside ovo wit the father n another female oso ok. i nvr tot they all pregnant so fast,i onli saw one vry fat. if every mother hv to separate then i wil hv 5 cage in my hse. dont wory i wil soon separate the male.make me dizzy. nvm.at least i gain experience frm tis.haha
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-1st pregnant female put in cage no.1.
-2nd pregnant female put in cage no.2.
-remaining females put in cage no.3 (if too many then put half in another cage)
-rest of the males put in cage no.4 (if too many then put half in another cage)

-when male babies are independent already put in cage no.5 (to prevent further breading)
-when female babies are independent already put in cage no.6 (to prevent further breading)

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-never bread hamsters from the same family members, they could come out dead or deformed.
-never peep, touch, disturb, clean the cage or go near to the mother or the babies. (can look from far but dont go near)

Also for your condition now, avoid changing the ovo suite for now, just remove all the other hamsters from there & leave the 2 mothers in there with their babies & pray they dont eat each other babies up. Because if you changed now things will just get worst since their environment is changed which will stress them up. All the separating steps should done it before they give birth not after. For now just provide them extra food & protein if possible.

This is why i said before, lots of research is needed before deciding to bread the hamsters so you guys will know what to do before something happened.
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post Sep 23 2012, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Memories_Fallen @ Sep 23 2012, 02:54 PM)
note:
-never bread hamsters from the same family members, they could come out dead or deformed.

not quite true, the hamsters that i sold to tjaime1984 was from the parents which were sibling..theres nothing wrong in breeding family members..only if ur lucky enough like me, thats why tjaime's hamster are healthy..
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this is totally unethical. You shouldnt do inbreeding. Period. There is a reason why even we humans cant marry our sister & sister marry with brother. If you studied biology you will know this reason, its something to do with our genes. I am not going to explain biology here, but if you want you can look it up & same concept applies to hamsters.

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Tips & Warnings
If sibling hamsters are inbred, you risk birth defects and health issues. Birth or congenital defects are not guaranteed when a brother and sister mate, it is only a risk based upon their genetic makeup. When siblings are bred, the genetic health problems they both inherit from their parents are amplified in any babies they have. The risk is primarily in siblings that have or carry genetic defects or health issues. If two healthy siblings mate, their offspring should also be healthy, based on the genes of both parents. Since not all health issues are apparent just by looking at a hamster, there is always a risk when mating siblings. It is less risky to mate a parent and child hamster, since they do not have the same genetic makeup.


quoted from: http://www.ehow.com/how_8694068_breed-hams...l#ixzz27ILhLc2G

more links:
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index...09162755AAUQBK1
http://breeding-hamster.blogspot.com/2007/...r-breeding.html

& you can find more online, just google hamster inbreeding.
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QUOTE(Memories_Fallen @ Sep 23 2012, 08:54 PM)
but why my baby hamsters that were born by my previous siblings set that i sold to tjaime1984 doesnt have any problem?
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because its genetics, hard to explain. Defects dosent mean physical only, it could also be visual, smelling sense, health, behaviour etc...we might not be able to see sometimes, or the hamsters was just lucky.

Either way, never practise inbreeding.
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post Sep 24 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Zzorro @ Sep 24 2012, 04:27 PM)
hi guy... tongue.gif
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why is it upside down? lol drained the water from your loop?
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QUOTE(Zzorro @ Sep 25 2012, 10:30 PM)
bcoz is it BTX setup..not drained just new build biggrin.gif


Added on September 25, 2012, 10:34 pm
're probably warm up.. laugh.gif
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i see, cool setup though...love seeing compression fittings with tight loop biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tjaime1984 @ Sep 29 2012, 04:29 PM)
so cute.i be a grandma again. got 4 healthy one 1 week old ady.can c their color n crawling around.so cute n happy. another gv birth to 7 but i saw 2 survival onli n the mother no nursering them like another mother. can i take her baby to the another mother for nursering them? i scare both oso didn survive.
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like what memories fallen said, you have to wait. She is probably tired, dont worry mother hamsters knows what is the best for her young. Its totally natural for her to eat her babies or leave it abandon if she thinks the young dosent have high chance of surviving. You just cant do anything about this.

And to answer your second question, NO. You shouldnt bring the babies to the other mother. She will kill the babies because she might think its a threat to her babies or just eat up her babies or the other babies because there is too many for her to nurse. You will just make things worst.

I strongly advice you not to carry the babies or disturb them because they will start crying & the mother will think there is a threat. This will just stress her up & in the end she will kill them. Yes babies hamsters do cry but we cant hear it because its in the ultrasonic range which is beyond what humans can hear. If there is a baby accidently came out then you can try to remove the mother hamster by luring her out with food & quickly carry the baby into the nest & yeah just use a spoon. But if the mother herself remove all the babies then that means she dont want to nurse them because she thinks she dont have enough energy for that.

ps: also stop inbreeding incase you plan to breed again sad.gif

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QUOTE(kingsing84 @ Oct 1 2012, 02:42 PM)
cute!!
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nice but too many sunflower seed is unhealthy for them sad.gif

QUOTE(my5412 @ Oct 1 2012, 05:19 PM)
Brain damageeeee?????whoaa that sounds serious...

Thanks for the info. Is the wheel not enuf?? What kind of toy it would be??
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yup its quite serious, which is the main reason why i moved from cage to fish tank instead after reading more info about hamstesr. Nope wheel alone is not enough, need to buy additional toys & yes chewing sticks is good for them as well since it can help them to trim their teeth. Most importantly is spend couple of hours playing with them tongue.gif
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you guys can get this: http://s.petco.com/assets/product_images/8/800443128275C.jpg

i bought 1 few months ago. It acts as a chewing toy for your hamster as well as a bridge so he can climb here & there or hide underneath depending on how you keep it. Take note though that all chewing sticks your hamster will use maybe for 1-2months? once the smell is gone they wont use it but my bridge still acts as a bridge smile.gif

not that cheap though wink.gif
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QUOTE(babybb @ Oct 21 2012, 10:09 PM)
Guys i suspects my hammie got abscess. Recently been notice there a lump at my hammie left side tummy. It's soft & watery felt like liquid. When i softly press it he doesn't feel like in pain or struggles. Although there a lump but he still doing his normal routine everyday. He seem fine with all the eat, drink, sleep & active like normal. I google it about that & i been found out about this sickness called "abscess". Anybody experience the same things before? Sigh.. Why there are so many illness in old age hammie? Cant the god let them to have a happy & peaceful life in their remaining life?  sad.gif 

FYI, the lump look similar like this.. I found this picture when i was googling.. Should i worry?  unsure.gif

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might want to bring it to a vet. Also leaving them for a week is not advisable, although they could survive if you put plenty of food and water but still not advisable since bottle leakage might occur and they might get thirsty etc... I leave my hamster before for 3days...came back and saw the bedding all was in the toilet but still got plenty of food but 1 week is a bit too long otherwise its ok. Also might want to separate them just to avoid any chances of fighting that could occur if you plan to leave them for few days.
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my hamster pass away on friday due to old age...sigh...

I know he would go away soon anyways since he been inactive for 1 month already & even having trouble in walking. both of his back legs was very weak & keep falling over here & there. Even with all those signs watching him grasping his life was very sad...I hope he didnt suffer while grasping for his life...

I have a big packet of versele-laga - hamster nature (hamster food) up for sale. I will give the leftover bedding & toilet bedding for free too. Bedding left a little bit only but hamster food is like brand new, just used like 1-2 bowls only still got so much in it. Maybe later I will open a sales thread.

Not sure want to keep another hamster in the future or not yet...but if decided not to then I will sell my current hamster "palace" & a very useful hamster book. Lots of useful info in it.

@babybb - you dont need vitamins for your hamster if you provide them balance diet unless you are not sure about their diet. The only time they need vitamins if they are sick or old (not eating like normal)...
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QUOTE(babybb @ Jan 7 2013, 01:01 PM)
I'm so sorry for your loss. But he must be very happy now at the hammie heaven. You must be very good in taking good care of him. So dont be sad.

Well i got a story to tell also. My bf was out of town for 2 days so i'm going to his place to look after the hamster & the moment i reach i just terrified! i found out my hammie hamburger are stuck between a tiny gap of his playground fence & it just got stuck at there. I was shocked & i really don't know what to do. I have no ideal how long he even stuck at there. I think probably overnight.

I try to get his leg out but he kept on struggles & squeak in pain. I afraid i'll broke his leg or injure him more. So i force to open the plastic gap & release his leg. He quickly go to his water bottle & drank alot of water & he was limping. I quickly bring him to see a vet. The vet however slightly press his leg to see he had any feeling or respond but he got no respond!!! The leg turn dark red in color & it's swelling.

So the vet have given him some drugs to help with the blood circulation. It start with some kind of a Enz... & some vitamin C to added in his water. I have taken out the wheel & all the necessary toy to keep him from climbing & moving his leg so much. I have put the foods & drink nearest to his house. He still act like normal with all the drinking & eating. Just what concern me it's the leg. He not using the leg at all. The vet told us to bring him back in a 1-2 weeks time or if we notice the leg turn dark black then it's the time they have to amputate my ham leg  cry.gif

Is there anything i could do more to make him feel better? Will my ham chew his leg off? Do i have to put on some bandage on his leg? I felt so bad.. i hope i was the one who got stuck & not my ham  cry.gif  I'm so sorry hamburger & i love you so much  sad.gif
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I am not so sure about injured leg as well, its best to ask the vet.

As for my hamster its a bit different case. Actually I was going on vacation on friday to penang, woke up in the morning & get ready & stuff. Then I saw my hamster outside of his house so I was wondering & wanted to fill his bowl. That was when I found out he was dying already, his body was like twisted also, like he twist his spine or something.

Searching for vet in subang but all seems like opening 10am & that time was only 8am. Even the emergency vet at subang was close so I decided to take my hamster to ipoh lor. Cant wait d, then reach at ipoh searching for vet. Manage to find 1 only, but I think that vet is not very good la. Idk la...I feel only...

I asked him why my hamster spine like this, he say not spine but the hamster nerves like this already thats why the body not straight anymore, my hamster dehydrated d. Maybe he was suffering since last night so didnt drink water? Idk la coz I went to bed early since wanted to travel to penang the next day ma.

Then the vet said he cant do anything, he cant find any blood vessel to put drips also...my hamster dying due to old age. I suspect that is true but not sure about that nerve statement, but impossible for him to bend his spine also la coz my cage got no high place for him to climb also.

Vet gave vitamins for my hamster, 3 drops daily & told me to buy glucose mix with water & keep feeding. This also I not sure coz from what I read hamster not supposed take sugar stuff but then I dont have a choice since hamster is not eating & I cant give milk also coz I google they say not good.

He passed away the moment I step into the the resort. But then in ipoh the car we travelling got accident a bit with another car. My mum say my hamster took our bad luck & save us. She say maybe we might involved in terrible accident but the hamster took that bad luck to safe us coz animals is like this wan. Even for dogs they can sense danger before it happens. E.g before tusanmi happened got many such stories with dogs also....not sure...old people believe... sad.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(babybb @ Jan 7 2013, 06:06 PM)
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OMG so sad...  cry.gif  It might your hammie bless u all. As to show his appreciation & thank you for giving him love. May i know how old it's your hammie? It's he showing sign of dying just suddenly overnight? or its show slowly? But dont be sad at least your hammie no need to be suffer now.
May i know what kind of bedding that you using now? Pine, cedar or softwood are not good for hamster respiratory. It can cause allergy such as sneezing or itching. Doesn you notice any grooming & stretching more than usual? Does his 4 paws look red to you? or does anybody having a flu recently been contact with your hammie? Hammie can catch a cold with a person with flu handle him. Try to remove the bedding for 1 week. Put paper kithen tower as base & some shredded plain soft unscented tissue for him. See how is the progress after that. If still sneezing then please do bring him to vet. It wouldnt cost you much for a hamster to the vet.
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More than 2years d, not sure the exact age coz was given by my aunty. The signs I notice he is getting old is (in order):

-Started sleeping more than usual.
-Started sleeping on his wheel after using it a while
-Started eating less than usual
-Stop eating food that needs extra work such as sunflower seed.
-Stop digging the bedding to cover his house even if I used air con.
-Doesn't come out at 12am often
-Stopped using the wheel
-Stop climbing on the house or wooden bridge
-Couldn't stand anymore, like in the alert state
-keep faling down even when eating, like starting to lose balance
-back legs dosent work properly anymore, like sometimes he drag his behind leg like its injured or something but its not. More like being limped.

The last sign it might do is this:
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Idk if something choked or what but the vet didnt say any such thing. Just gave vitamin, looks like thick syrup to fed 3 times a day, so I just put 1 drop to its tongue but my hamster was eating that though & drinking water whenever I put it in his mouth. Anyways just to remind you guys to spend more time with your hamster & look out for old age signs.

My hamster did that for half a day after passing away. I read some people say some hamsters dies in their sleep so it depends I guess.

QUOTE(soul_star @ Jan 7 2013, 08:01 PM)
Im using Delikate scented bedding. Yeah, i know its bad for hammie. Im searching for other brand. For type of wood shredding im not sure. I have flu recent days. But not before it start to sneezing. Hmm. Not sure. Seems like normal. His 4 paws also normal. Will try to remove the bedding. Should give Vitamin C or other supplement?  Thanks sad.gif
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I never heard delikate got scented bedding before, but I used to use the normal 1 before. Now I using homefriends bedding. Its paper based bedding, very good but a bit expensive. I got a little bit left & some hamster food to sell, if you want to try let me know laugh.gif

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