QUOTE(Geminist @ Aug 11 2006, 08:29 PM)
Can open more than one FD at a time?in the same bank?Investment (Local and International), Everything About Investment
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Aug 12 2006, 03:17 AM
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Aug 12 2006, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 12 2006, 03:17 AM) Yes. In fact, you should open multiple FD within reasons. The reason is if something happen and you need the money, you just need to cash out just enough FD to get by.For example, if you have 10K, you can do 1 X 10K FD or 2 X 5K FD. If you do 2 X 5K FD and you need the money before maturity, you just need to cash out 1 X 5K FD and suffer only penalty for 1 5K FD. Some people believe in laddering too. Especially, if you believe interest rate is going up. In laddering, you do one FD every month or every X months, 1 year maturity and auto-renewal. So, if you need money, there is always a FD close by to cash out. Plus, your FD will catch the rising interest rate. Dreamer |
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Aug 12 2006, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 11 2006, 08:14 PM) The interest rate is annual (aka yearly ) interest rate. So, at the end of 6 months, you get your money plus (3.5% * 6/12) -> 12 months in a year = 1.75% so give this example,No, you do not get interest every month. Dreamer I put in rm10k for 6 month FD at the interest rate of 3.5%, after 6th month i will get 10k plus my 10k-98.25%=175 which is rm10175?? and if I put 10k for 1 month FD at the interest rate of 3.1%,after 6 month i will get 10k plus my 10k-99.74%=26 which is rm10026?? correct me if i am wrong... but thats sooo little... This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Aug 12 2006, 06:58 AM |
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Aug 12 2006, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 12 2006, 06:43 AM) so give this example, AFAIK, the correct calculation is,I put in rm10k for 6 month FD at the interest rate of 3.5%, after 6th month i will get 10k plus my 10k-98.25%=175 which is rm10175?? and if I put 10k for 1 month FD at the interest rate of 3.1%,after 6 month i will get 10k plus my 10k-99.74=26 which is rm10026?? correct me if i am wrong... but thats sooo little... 10000 x 0.031 (3.1%) = 310 310 / 2 = 155 So your interest after 6 month is 10000 + 155 = 10155 |
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Aug 12 2006, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 12 2006, 06:43 AM) so give this example, Your 6 month FD's answer is correct. But, your formula is wrong!!!I put in rm10k for 6 month FD at the interest rate of 3.5%, after 6th month i will get 10k plus my 10k-98.25%=175 which is rm10175?? and if I put 10k for 1 month FD at the interest rate of 3.1%,after 6 month i will get 10k plus my 10k-99.74%=26 which is rm10026?? correct me if i am wrong... but thats sooo little... The interest should be 0.035 ( 3.5% ) * 6/12 = 0.0175 10K * 0.0175 = 175 You 1 month FD calculation is wrong due to compounding interest. You get interest on top of your interest after every month. The interest should be ( 1 + 0.031 * 1/12) ^ 6 - 1= 0.0156 10K * 0.0156 = 156 As it should be. You should get pay more interest for having a longer term contract. By the way, you should be doing one year FD. It has the best rate at 3.88%. You just buy 1 year FD every months. The minimum is 1k. Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Aug 12 2006, 08:15 AM |
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Aug 12 2006, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 12 2006, 07:54 AM) Your 6 month FD's answer is correct. But, your formula is wrong!!! sorry i dont get it...my math sux since secondary school.The interest should be 0.035 ( 3.5% ) * 6/12 = 0.0175 10K * 0.0175 = 175 You 1 month FD calculation is wrong due to compounding interest. You get interest on top of your interest after every month. The interest should be ( 1 + 0.031 * 1/12) ^ 6 - 1= 0.0156 10K * 0.0156 = 156 As it should be. You should get pay more interest for having a longer term contract. By the way, you should be doing one year FD. It has the best rate at 3.88%. You just buy 1 year FD every months. The minimum is 1k. Dreamer so if i take 6 months FD,i will get rm10176 in total? so if i take 1 month FD continuously for 6 months with the same amount of money invested in. will it be rm156x6 months=rm936, in the end of the 6 months period i will get rm10936?? or the 6th month FD should times 6 also?which is 176x6 month=1056,so in the end i get 11056?or should compound interest apply here? correct me please... |
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Aug 12 2006, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 12 2006, 07:54 AM) Your 6 month FD's answer is correct. But, your formula is wrong!!! The interest should be 0.035 ( 3.5% ) * 6/12 = 0.0175 10K * 0.0175 = 175 You 1 month FD calculation is wrong due to compounding interest. You get interest on top of your interest after every month. The interest should be ( 1 + 0.031 * 1/12) ^ 6 - 1= 0.0156 10K * 0.0156 = 156 As it should be. You should get pay more interest for having a longer term contract. By the way, you should be doing one year FD. It has the best rate at 3.88%. You just buy 1 year FD every months. The minimum is 1k. Dreamer QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 12 2006, 08:58 AM) sorry i dont get it...my math sux since secondary school. 1) 6 months FD. After 6 months, you get $10,000 + $175 = $10,175so if i take 6 months FD,i will get rm10176 in total? so if i take 1 month FD continuously for 6 months with the same amount of money invested in. will it be rm156x6 months=rm936, in the end of the 6 months period i will get rm10936?? or the 6th month FD should times 6 also?which is 176x6 month=1056,so in the end i get 11056?or should compound interest apply here? correct me please... 2) 1 Month FD. After 6 months, you get $10,000 + $156 = $10,156 We teach this in standard 6 of Chinese primary school. Dreamer |
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Aug 12 2006, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 12 2006, 09:17 AM) 1) 6 months FD. After 6 months, you get $10,000 + $175 = $10,175 what did you mean by 1 month FD after 6 months?dont you FD 1 month then can take out after 1 month meh?need to wait for 6 months?2) 1 Month FD. After 6 months, you get $10,000 + $156 = $10,156 We teach this in standard 6 of Chinese primary school. Dreamer than whats the different between 1 month and 6 months than? you mean you teach or you learn? i never learn that until junior 2-3 i think?its a chinese private secondary school too. even though i learn this in college too,but still dont get it.my math very very sux. This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Aug 12 2006, 09:50 AM |
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Aug 12 2006, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 12 2006, 09:17 AM) 1) 6 months FD. After 6 months, you get $10,000 + $175 = $10,175 wat r u doin... 2) 1 Month FD. After 6 months, you get $10,000 + $156 = $10,156 We teach this in standard 6 of Chinese primary school. Dreamer 1month FD... after 6 month the n go get d money??? i think d calculation is that, 12month-> full interest is 3.1% so each month is 3.1/12=0.2583% if put 1 month, so money u get is 0.2583% x 10000=25.83. correct me if im wrong... i also learnin |
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Aug 12 2006, 09:55 AM
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FD 1month better or FD 6 month better?
Actually from my point of view, it depends to your portfolio For an investor, usually they will keep the money in FD 1 month for emergency cases. Such as, suddenly jobless, sick and bla bla bla For example if ur monthly expenses is just 1k, so u need to save 3k in you FD1 month in case u r jobless. Then u need to save another 1k in case u fall sick. Another 2 or 3k for ur flight since u r now in london. So total should be 6 or 7k. The extra money, i think u can put in FD 12 months ( better since u already got emergency "fund" => 1 month FD ) or invest in unit trust. which fund is better actually u can judge urself by looking the 5 substantial companies that the fund manager invest in. If u feel that 5 substantial companies have a bright future, then u can just invest in it. This portfolio is just an example Monthly expenses: 50% Emergency cases: 10% Investment and saving: 40% U can create a portfolio somethings like that which suitable to your condition. Just my point of view. |
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Aug 12 2006, 09:57 AM
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Hm...
I called Maybank up and asked about the FD calculation before. Dreamer's calculation is not wrong but missed some details Let's take these examples in my next calculation. Principal - RM10,000 Interest - 3.1% For 1 Month Duration - August 2006 (31 days) Upon maturity the calculation should be: - Rm10,000 * (3.1/100) * (31/365) = RM 26.32 <- Interest earned. Notice that on the duration part, I used the number of days for calculation instead on month. This part of equation will fluctuate if the days of the month is < 31 days especially February. |
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Aug 12 2006, 09:58 AM
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Aug 12 2006, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Aug 12 2006, 09:45 AM) wat r u doin... i dont think so...the return is too small.1month FD... after 6 month the n go get d money??? i think d calculation is that, 12month-> full interest is 3.1% so each month is 3.1/12=0.2583% if put 1 month, so money u get is 0.2583% x 10000=25.83. correct me if im wrong... i also learnin |
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Aug 12 2006, 10:09 AM
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Aug 12 2006, 10:10 AM
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sorry wahai wahai expert semua...
the current issue now is to teach us the calculation of FD...and not teach us what to do with our money... thanks for your help... edit: yeah,i kinda embarrass my secondary school. |
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Aug 12 2006, 10:16 AM
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Aug 12 2006, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Aug 12 2006, 10:10 AM) sorry wahai wahai expert semua... hhm.... if like that, i think satu kali FD alot will b better.... see thisthe current issue now is to teach us the calculation of FD...and not teach us what to do with our money... thanks for your help... edit: yeah,i kinda embarrass my secondary school. 6month FD satu kali rm60000 -> 60000 x 3.5/100x0.5 = 1050 each month FD 10000 for 6 month 10000x 3.1/100 x 31/365( or use 1/12)=26.33 so, after 6 month = 158 onli!!! diffrent ab 892!!! |
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Aug 12 2006, 10:21 AM
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http://www1.uob.com.my/cgi-bin/calculator/term_deposit.cgi
this link is useful lowyat82 is correct dunno how 2 calculate but can earn few k a month( what job is that, just wonder no offense ) This post has been edited by hotlink: Aug 12 2006, 10:36 AM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Aug 12 2006, 10:23 AM
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Aug 12 2006, 10:29 AM
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@geminist
i refresh bc at d front of this thread and saw that acat u buy two MF wanna ask does both ur fund is ab to cover d expenses of anual fee and also service charges? any money go in if u feel its too private u can pm me...thanks |
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