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lklatmy
post Apr 12 2006, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Apr 12 2006, 09:53 AM)
0.42% applies to all e-trade systems?
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No,it's a priviledge and come with terms and conditions.

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post Apr 13 2006, 01:05 AM

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[quote=lklatmy,Apr 12 2006, 09:45 AM]
I think the lowest you could get is 0.42%.This is for internet trading and must be collateralised.No service or advice.[/quote]

..and where would one get 0.42% ?
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post Apr 13 2006, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 13 2006, 01:05 AM)
..and where would one get 0.42% ?

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PM me for details.

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post Apr 13 2006, 11:16 AM

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Seems like quite a number of 'goreng' stocks lose some steam already, only the 'King of Goreng' Iris still 'hot', (18c -> 90c!) not yet finish 'goreng'.
May be they want to repeat the history of Repco (from around RM5 shoot to near RM200).

Actually for those low paid up capital and low liquidity stock (Mesdaq and 2nd board) it is quite easy to manipulate it provided the syndicate has sufficient 'bullet'


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mobiusone
post Apr 13 2006, 12:07 PM

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SSF is coming out the end of this month

thats what i heard
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post Apr 13 2006, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Apr 13 2006, 12:07 PM)
SSF is coming out the end of this month

thats what i heard
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well...just wait for the news...maybe next week...

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post Apr 17 2006, 10:11 AM

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confirmed SSF is launching in april 28th
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post Apr 17 2006, 10:15 AM

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15 Apr 2006
BURSA MALAYSIA AIMS TO LAUNCH SINGLE STOCK FUTURES ON 28 APRIL 2006

Bursa Malaysia Berhad (Bursa Malaysia) is targeting to launch the first tranche of Single Stock Futures (SSFs) on 28 April 2006. The initial ten SSFs to begin trading on launch day are:

No. Short Name  Company Name  Stock Code
1. FBRS Bursa Malaysia Bhd 1818
2. FAIR AirAsia Bhd 5099
3. FAMM  AMMB Holdings Bhd 1015
4. FBST  Berjaya Sports Toto Bhd 1562
5. FGEN  Genting Bhd 3182
6. FIOI  IOI Corporation Bhd 1961
7. FMAX Maxis Communications Bhd 5051
8. FRHB  RHB Capital Bhd  1066
9. FSGB  SCOMI Group Bhd 7158
10. FTEL Telekom Malaysia Bhd  4863

Bursa Malaysia's Chief Operating Officer, Omar Merican said, "The addition of Single Stock Futures to Bursa Malaysia's product spectrum is significant as it facilitates price discovery, provides an additional risk management tool for investors and also gives investors a lower cost and easier means for entering the market."

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/media...06/20060415.htm

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post Apr 17 2006, 11:03 PM

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wat is da good of ssf? how much u need to hav to invest in?

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Apr 17 2006, 11:03 PM)
wat is da good of ssf? how much u need to hav to invest in?
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"Invest"?I don't think SSF can be considered as investment.Short lifespan,no dividend.It is nothing more than calculated punting. laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2006, 09:16 AM

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SSF is more of a speculating or short term investing stuff,means you cant hold it for long periods.
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post Apr 18 2006, 04:39 PM

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The SSF is a short term speculative tool but at least you can earn money from both way either market up or down. Unlike stock market, the only way to make money out of it, is the market goes up. Market goes down, everyone loses except for those short-selling one.

I still skeptical about the SSF although it is a good move. But due to lack of serious interest investor, it might end up like rubber and tin futures. Even the most popular KLCI futures also not quite active with average around 2k-3k contracts only and today only reach 1.5k.
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50 agree to be market makers for new futures

KUALA LUMPUR: Bursa Malaysia has obtained the commitment from 50 quasi market makers to play the role of market makers for the soon-to-be-launched single stock futures (SSF), and expects that number to swell to 100.

The exchange also believes that the SSFs to be launched stand a good chance of succeeding, because the derivative instruments have been designed with the retail investors in mind, according to head of product development and planning Shu Meng Chan.

"We have a group of quasi market makers who are local market participants. Fifty of them are active and there will be in total 100,'' he told StarBiz. "They are individuals who trade on their own account and enjoy local commissions and rebates from the exchange.''

Bursa will launch the first batch of 10 SSFs on April 28 and has a programme to roll out 42 SSFs over time. The SSFs were chosen based on the underlying stock's liquidity, velocity and volatility.
The exchange's SFFs are designed to give investors alternatives in a particular sector, and with their low transaction cost and leverage, they could be good plays for retail traders.

With SSFs set to be unveiled next week, brokers have raised numerous issues on SSFs. A key question among them is whether such instruments would actually be successful.

Bursa said the market makers, who had been trading most of the exchange's futures products, would provide liquidity to the SSFs. The exchange feels that the timing for the release of retail-centric SSFs was right as there has been an improvement in the turnover of its crude palm oil and KLCI futures contracts.

However, whether institutional investors would take to SSFs is still uncertain as mandate issues might prevent them from buying such instruments.

"The outlook for the launch for other futures derivatives is feasible. The circumstantial evidence from other issuers is positive, such as CIMB Bhd issuing structured warrants. They would not be doing so unless the environment is favourable,'' said COO Omar Merican.

Shu said that citing Hong Kong and Singapore as examples of why SSFs might not succeed on Bursa was flawed.

He said Hong Kong started its SSFs too early and the derivatives were launched on the futures exchange. The equities and futures exchanges in that country were in competition with each other and hence, the SSFs did not get the desired support from the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

In the case of Singapore, trading interest was more slanted towards institutional investors as the MSCI Singapore futures is the more heavily traded derivative compared with the STI futures index.

"Developed exchanges have fairly well developed derivatives sectors and the distribution of success between structured warrants, call warrants, SSFs and index and commodity futures do not follow a fixed pattern,'' Omar said.

Bursa has identified potential areas for SSFs to be successful, of which one is the high price of the underlying stock compared with SSFs as the transaction costs of trading in SSFs would be significantly lower than trading the actual stock.

Another category in which SSFs will do well is in growth stocks.

The introduction of SSFs comes at a time when Bursa is busy working on the release and introduction of other instruments.

In the pipeline for launch this year are securities borrowing and lending, restricted short-selling, exchange traded funds, new indices, possible non-ringgit contracts - which will include foreign listings, foreign futures contracts, ADR-type stocks - and proprietary day trading.

"This does not include the other things Bursa is doing from an infrastructure basis and (giving out more) single licences for trading to both corporations and individuals,'' Omar said, adding that the exchange felt it was right that SSFs be introduced before other products and services.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...47&sec=business

Good move ?
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post Apr 21 2006, 12:35 PM

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Verbal promise is sometimes just diplomatical whether there is actual action to support the market or not remains a question. Nobody can correctly guess it will be success or failure until the trading has been running.

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Hi... I dont know if this is the place to ask this questions but I am so lost in these things...

The China's Yuan is being undervalued to boost the export. Now, US is pressuring the Chinese to re-evaluate their Yuan, rite? Since the Yuan is going up, how does this actually affect our currency, which will also be stronger if Yuan is on the rise. And also, how does undervaluing your own currency boosts export? Why does US so concerned bout this?

I tried to figure it out but I guess I am just now a business oriented guy... lol
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US pressurises China to revalue the Yuan mainly because of trade deficit. If your currency is undervalue then that's mean your export product is damm cheaper around the world, while US or others country competitors can't sell their product at all. Unlike others currency, Yuan is not free float or free to trade worldwide, the rate is solely control by their gov.

Malaysia has quite a handful of direct competition with China so if Yuan appreciate then BNM will let the ringgit to go up further since it won't hurt the export industry. BNM has been so long push the ringgit at a undervalued level so that export industry will flourish because they know local industry and businesses until now still not fully recover from 98 financial crisis which also the reason of BNM reluctantly to push up the interest rate although inflation has been shooting up quite severely.
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post Apr 21 2006, 05:43 PM

shhhhhhhhh come i tell you something hehe
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iris still not losing steam or issit they got real value?
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post Apr 21 2006, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Apr 21 2006, 05:43 PM)
iris still not losing steam or issit they got real value?
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iris siao 1. damn i sold 10 lots of it at 59.5 sen the nexday jump to 80 sen cry.gif
but it seems like a big big bubble floating on top of a pot of cactus
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post Apr 21 2006, 10:38 PM

shhhhhhhhh come i tell you something hehe
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QUOTE(kyan smile.gif @ Apr 21 2006, 05:53 PM)
iris siao 1. damn i sold 10 lots of it at 59.5 sen the nexday jump to 80 sen  cry.gif 
but it seems like a big big bubble floating on top of a pot of cactus
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i sold it almost like your time just abit higher at 65 sen like that haiz
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post Apr 21 2006, 11:38 PM

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FYI, Iris is making EPS 1 cent for the last financial year, go to figure out whether it is overvalued or not.


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