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Hardware Stylist Ultra Thin Notebook, The New Dell Vostro V131

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post Aug 24 2011, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(joanneway @ Aug 24 2011, 12:15 PM)
really? 2bad i dun have nvidia to test it. i dunno y a lot ppl said ati driver sux than nvidia. but ati graphics look better in quality.
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I have Intel IGP, ATI and nVidia in my notebooks, HTPCs and desktop PCs.
ATI does have a problematic driver.
In terms of "solid" driver, both nVidia and Intel are delivering far less problematic drivers.

As I said, it is a known fact that both ATI and nVidia have better AF/AA implementation than Intel IGP therefore it looks better in games.

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post Aug 24 2011, 12:39 PM

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ok so wait next 3 yrs i will give nvidia a try-out!
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post Aug 24 2011, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(joanneway @ Aug 24 2011, 12:39 PM)
ok so wait next 3 yrs i will give nvidia a try-out!
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nVidia might be going chapter 11 by year 2014. laugh.gif
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post Aug 24 2011, 12:57 PM

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cos my ATI still kicking strong. 1st ever lappy in my whole life also still alive.
i know nvidia & ati r combining become BROWN soon in 2014!
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 24 2011, 11:50 AM)
AMD/ATI does not have better driver.
But it does have better implementation of AA/AF and thus better IQ in games.
For video (assuming you're referring to 1080p content playback), I doubt you'll see difference.
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Better IQ = better driver isn't it? I just comparing between AMD and Intel not nvidia.
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:21 PM

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intel & nvidia like abang adik
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post Aug 24 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Aug 24 2011, 01:14 PM)
Better IQ = better driver isn't it? I just comparing between AMD and Intel not nvidia.
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No, it is not. Better IQ doesn't mean better driver.

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post Aug 24 2011, 03:12 PM

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I have prove that nVidia driver is more problematic than ATI driver:

1. Google search on "nvidia driver problem" returns 607,000 results
2. Google search on "ati driver problem" returns 327,000 results
3. Google search on "amd driver problem"returns on 71,700 results

As you can see, since AMD take over ATI, there is less problem. And the fact remain, both ATI+AMD still has far less problem than nVidia. rolleyes.gif

Facts aside, I been using AMD 5650 for almost a year, on a Switchable graphic some more, most problem can be solved by updating to latest driver. They have at least 1 driver every month. They continue to update their driver whenever there is new game. It's good enough for me.

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i dun dare shoot aluene cos VIP. thanks cow!

my mpc-hc got issue leh. did u test the k4? will let ur head spin off.

can i said like this? nvidia driver really is better like astria said b4 but there a lot fella who bought nvidia thought the driver r the best but they never learn anything bout it so become noob when deal with the driver so they tend to said nvidia driver better than ati. listen & read a lot but din really try-out.

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 24 2011, 03:12 PM)
I have prove that nVidia driver is more problematic than ATI driver:

1. Google search on "nvidia driver problem" returns 607,000 results
2. Google search on "ati driver problem" returns 327,000 results
3. Google search on "amd driver problem"returns on 71,700 results

As you can see, since AMD take over ATI, there is less problem. And the fact remain, both ATI+AMD still has far less problem than nVidia. rolleyes.gif

Facts aside, I been using AMD 5650 for almost a year, on a Switchable graphic some more, most problem can be solved by updating to latest driver. They have at least 1 driver every month. They continue to update their driver whenever there is new game. It's good enough for me.
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I guess there is no right or wrong answer. It's more like a personal experience.
I am not sure whether it is the right way to collect the sample.
Just take it with a pinch of salt.
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I have nVidia and ATI GPU.
Based on my experience, I have had ZERO issues in various applications and games since day one with nVidia's factory driver.
I don't encounter a single issue in a subsequent update. Excellent compatibility. nVidia only update WHQL driver once every quarter.
I have been frequently updating the Radeon driver in my 3820TG. It still has the flickering issue and compatibility issue with some application.
I believe you have encountered unusable application after an update of ATI driver.

P/S I disabled the switchable mode for my 3820TG since day one. It's in discrete mode.
Now, with Nahalem i7 in my 3820TG, it has to run in discrete mode permanently. laugh.gif

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post Aug 24 2011, 04:10 PM

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but cow dun have flickering issue on his 3820TG!
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post Aug 24 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 17 2011, 11:08 AM)
yup. thanks to advise from ngkhanmein, i call back Dell, trying to get a discount, they gave me the bag instead...

@ngkhanmein: i havent test those game ler, been busy like hell... sad.gif
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can get discount and bag also la... i can get it for you if you want

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QUOTE(J.A.Robert @ Aug 24 2011, 05:33 PM)
can get discount and bag also la... i can get it for you if you want
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u're too late! doh.gif
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hmmmmm... sad
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QUOTE(joanneway @ Aug 24 2011, 04:10 PM)
but cow dun have flickering issue on his 3820TG!
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For my case, how do I know it is a flickering?
I don't see flickering in my other notebooks with the same application, OS and content.

Many don't even aware it is flickering issue.
Some don't see it. Some feel it's a thorn in the flesh. Some don't see it a problem and just ignore it.
I seldom game or watch movie on it. I only use it when I'm on business trip.
So, for me, I don't see it is a huge problem and I just "live" with it.
But deep down I know there are still huge rooms for improvements for ATI's driver.

Anyway, just want to share this when we touch on "xxx offers better driver".
You don't have to agree with me.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 24 2011, 03:54 PM)
I guess there is no right or wrong answer. It's more like a personal experience.
I am not sure whether it is the right way to collect the sample.
Just take it with a pinch of salt.
ATI
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laugh.gif The link is funny. Yup, I am agree too, the argument on which driver is better is subject to personal experience and preference. I have no flickering problem so far. I update my driver every month.

PS: just saw your post, may be i m not aware of the flickering if it exist.

@J.A.Robert: I called up the 1-800 number the day it was launched! Still have not get my notebook! Thanks for you offer anyway...


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@cowithgun,

I added u in facebook lol, and added PfTJ as well haha, hope he knows who am I..

Anyways, ur laptop havent arrived yet?
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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Aug 24 2011, 09:21 PM)
@cowithgun,

I added u in facebook lol, and added PfTJ as well haha, hope he knows who am I..

Anyways, ur laptop havent arrived yet?
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laugh.gif okay now I know who you are laugh.gif laugh.gif
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this vostro v131 looks like a solid business laptop.. now that my 4820tg is currently on repair.. feel so tempting to replace it with this vostro.
I know maybe some will said it is a downgrade, but I prefer a business laptop rather than normal consumer laptop. The advantages of v131 over 4820tg are matte screen, better keyboard, smaller (i like 13.3 size), lighter, thin(not sure which is thinner), not sure what else.
But the processor currently offered is up to i3 only? I prefer it comes with i5 at least
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QUOTE(digitheatre @ Aug 25 2011, 07:51 AM)
this vostro v131 looks like a solid business laptop.. now that my 4820tg is currently on repair.. feel so tempting to replace it with this vostro.
I know maybe some will said it is a downgrade, but I prefer a business laptop rather than normal consumer laptop. The advantages of v131 over 4820tg are matte screen, better keyboard, smaller (i like 13.3 size), lighter, thin(not sure which is thinner), not sure what else.
But the processor currently offered is up to i3 only? I prefer it comes with i5 at least
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Well, it'll be a downgrade in terms of performance... but then its an upgrade in user-friendliness and warranty support laugh.gif
So its depends on how you look at things, and how your prioritize~
There used to be an i5 variant fro the V131, but seems like Dell has removed it... Even though there's not much review yet, but putting an i5 into a 13" slim laptop may bring about high temps. Perhaps you would want to wait for awhile and see how the V131 really fairs (with SB i5). You might want to wait until the Malaysian specs stabilizes 1st, who knows we might just get back the i5 variant nod.gif

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