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post Aug 16 2011, 11:50 AM

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“I have faith in our education system,” she added.

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post Aug 16 2011, 11:50 AM


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QUOTE(seiken @ Aug 16 2011, 11:47 AM)
Lots of ppl out there have no idea how's the situation in the hospitals right now. To be a good doctor, you need the necessary knowledge and good exposure to all the clinical scenarios, procedures, protocols and the way the hospital runs.

What the current house officers lack is the latter. Of course the situation is even worse for graduates from Russia, Indonesia, etc. With their poor knowledge and poor exposure, these doctors have been given the license to kill.
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reality check.....yupyup

realistically speaking.....gov hospitals are run by HO liao...........

and i do know that mistakes happen and patient pays dearly for that......
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 16 2011, 11:36 AM)
Do you guys realise that without MCA's intervention they would have only have had actuarial science? 

What does that tell you about the system in place now? 

Even top students do not get the choice that they want.  They are only getting it now after MCA intervened.  Why is this so?
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actuarial science actually a course that also hard to get..there's alot of top student who choose UM medicine but the place for it is limited..if u think about it almost all top student wan to be a doctor and im sure most of it will apply for UM..so these 2 girls just use backdoor to get in..
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QUOTE(slimey @ Aug 16 2011, 11:48 AM)
yup yup.........

the head of the doctor that retired told me that there's so many doctors now.......not like last time

and i know from HO and MO that the OT system will be replaced by shift system............so basically this means......there is a lot of doctors....maybe too much for the gov to handle liao
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That's right...starting Sept with the exception of HUKM (October), all hospitals with house officers will start the shift system. Shorter working hours, no on call allowance.

It's a sad situation. Seriously dentistry is the way to go. Less competitive, not saturated and you get to treat patients as well.
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(mashqi @ Aug 16 2011, 11:51 AM)
actuarial science actually a course that also hard to get..there's alot of top student who choose UM medicine but the place for it is limited..if u think about it almost all top student wan to be a doctor and im sure most of it will apply for UM..so these 2 girls just use backdoor to get in..
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I know actuarial science is difficult to get in.

But my point is they are amongst the top scorers yet they couldn't get the course that they want without intervention from MCA.

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post Aug 16 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 16 2011, 11:53 AM)
I know actuarial science is difficult to get in. 

But my point is they are amongst the top scorers yet they couldn't get the course that they want without intervention from MCA.
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yea cuz there's alot of top scorers now..so that's create the new grade A+ for spm and use the 10% cocuriculum system to find the best among the best..
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QUOTE(seiken @ Aug 16 2011, 11:52 AM)
That's right...starting Sept with the exception of HUKM (October), all hospitals with house officers will start the shift system. Shorter working hours, no on call allowance.

It's a sad situation. Seriously dentistry is the way to go. Less competitive, not saturated and you get to treat patients as well.
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And don't forget pharmacists. They are quite in high demand now, I hear.
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(mashqi @ Aug 16 2011, 11:55 AM)
yea cuz there's alot of top scorers now..so that's create the new grade A+ for spm and use the 10% cocuriculum system to find the best among the best..
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Best of the best? What is this, a merit based policy?

What about the Bumiputera? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Aug 16 2011, 11:57 AM)
Best of the best? What is this, a merit based policy?

What about the Bumiputera?  biggrin.gif
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so what about it??
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:59 AM

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mcm ni pun nk gado
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 16 2011, 11:56 AM)
And don't forget pharmacists. They are quite in high demand now, I hear.
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ugh..........

in malaysia they are mere convenient shop with license to sell drugs.......

without a law that says only pharmacist are able to dispense drug.........nothing to look out for actually

hey....i even see pharmacy selling chips, ice-cream, junk food..........yeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....F that crap
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Heard on the radio, they were reducing housemen working hours so that the housemen can get adequate rest and would not be stressed out.

Or perhaps the large number of housemen has something to do with this too.
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QUOTE(slimey @ Aug 16 2011, 12:00 PM)
ugh..........

in malaysia they are mere convenient shop with license to sell drugs.......

without a law that says only pharmacist are able to dispense drug.........nothing to look out for actually

hey....i even see pharmacy selling chips, ice-cream, junk food..........yeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....F that crap
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Well, there's Guardian, Caring and Watsons springing up all around nowadays.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(slimey @ Aug 16 2011, 12:00 PM)
ugh..........

in malaysia they are mere convenient shop with license to sell drugs.......

without a law that says only pharmacist are able to dispense drug.........nothing to look out for actually

hey....i even see pharmacy selling chips, ice-cream, junk food..........yeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....F that crap
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But if there is such a law, means doctors can't dispense drugs. Maybe I am just too used to the way things are now at the moment, you go to the clinic, you go see the doctor and you get the drugs as well.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 16 2011, 12:03 PM)
Heard on the radio, they were reducing housemen working hours so that the housemen can get adequate rest and would not be stressed out. 

Or perhaps the large number of housemen has something to do with this too.
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i've seen housemen at a gov hosp before. he got the late night shift, all he did was tidur in the office. but of course this is just one person, cannot generalise it to every housemen.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 16 2011, 12:03 PM)
Heard on the radio, they were reducing housemen working hours so that the housemen can get adequate rest and would not be stressed out. 

Or perhaps the large number of housemen has something to do with this too.
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this.........definitely got to do with it

hospitals always need a certain number of staff........

gov can reduce the hours meaning there is extra staff
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:06 PM

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isnt pharmacist the 1 making the drug??
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QUOTE(seiken @ Aug 16 2011, 11:52 AM)
That's right...starting Sept with the exception of HUKM (October), all hospitals with house officers will start the shift system. Shorter working hours, no on call allowance.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 16 2011, 12:03 PM)
Heard on the radio, they were reducing housemen working hours so that the housemen can get adequate rest and would not be stressed out. 

Or perhaps the large number of housemen has something to do with this too.
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:08 PM


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QUOTE(mashqi @ Aug 16 2011, 12:06 PM)
isnt pharmacist the 1 making the drug??
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wow......this make me LOL

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