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 REIT V3, Real Estate Investment Trust

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arthas
post Feb 21 2012, 11:30 PM

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does any1 know whether we can claim back what we'd been taxed in the withholding tax for REIT when filing BE form?
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(arthas @ Feb 21 2012, 11:30 PM)
does any1 know whether we can claim back what we'd been taxed in the withholding tax for REIT when filing BE form?
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No.
Witholding tax is not claim back-able.
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post Feb 22 2012, 04:56 PM

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hi all sifus

i am looking into REIT shares to buy for its dividend. i got the divvy payout and times from the website below
http://www.knowthymoney.com/2011/02/reit-dividend-yield.html

i have around rm8k model. should i go into ATRIUM or AXREIT straight?

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post Feb 22 2012, 05:28 PM

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Abang, your data is from 2011 la, no longer valid. Latest is here: http://mreit.reitdata.com/

ATRIUM closed today at 1.11 while AXREIT closed at 2.72, so if you go in now, you will have to recalculate your DYU smile.gif
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Feb 22 2012, 05:28 PM)
Abang, your data is from 2011 la, no longer valid. Latest is here: http://mreit.reitdata.com/

ATRIUM closed today at 1.11 while AXREIT closed at 2.72, so if you go in now, you will have to recalculate your DYU smile.gif
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thx for the link notworthy.gif

i got some question. what does DPU means?

another thing i wanna check is the yield% is for 1 year right?
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Feb 22 2012, 05:31 PM)
thx for the link notworthy.gif

i got some question. what does DPU means?

another thing i wanna check is the yield% is for 1 year right?
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Dividend Yield per Unit.

Basically, look at the Dividend Yield / Entry Price X 100 = DYU%

So, take AXREIT. Assuming they give 4.3 sen per unit every quarter (4X4.3 = 17.2 sen). 17.2 cents / 2.72 (entry price) X 100 = 6.3%

So your yield would be around 6.3%, which suggests its on the low side if you choose to enter now. Mind you, it is still better than FDs.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Feb 22 2012, 05:42 PM)
Dividend Yield per Unit.

Basically, look at the Dividend Yield / Entry Price X 100 = DYU%

So, take AXREIT. Assuming they give 4.3 sen per unit every quarter (4X4.3 = 17.2 sen). 17.2 cents / 2.72 (entry price) X 100 = 6.3%

So your yield would be around 6.3%, which suggests its on the low side if you choose to enter now. Mind you, it is still better than FDs.
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i see i see

thanks for the info thumbup.gif

do you have any good reit counter suggestion? laugh.gif
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REITs are pretty stable, so looking at it, probably STARREIT and TOWER? But my preference for tower came when I bought it around 1.23, it is around 1.31 now so the yield might be lower.

Price usually goes down after announcement and disbursement of dividend, so you can always just look and wait for the right price to enter smile.gif
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Feb 22 2012, 05:56 PM)
REITs are pretty stable, so looking at it, probably STARREIT and TOWER? But my preference for tower came when I bought it around 1.23, it is around 1.31 now so the yield might be lower.

Price usually goes down after announcement and disbursement of dividend, so you can always just look and wait for the right price to enter smile.gif
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post Feb 22 2012, 07:21 PM

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For medium term, better go to Atrium, Hektar, CMMT, ARREIT, which gives you 4 times dividends per year. It gives you compounded x4.

For long term, better go to Axreit since it is the biggest and most popular reits among others, but lower dividend yield.

If you want to try other than REITs, do a search for this company call Wellcall, they give lucrative dividends too. But cannot discuss here, strictly REITs only.
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i jsut check on ATRIUM but they had 0 volume? shocking.gif
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REITs are a different beast, mate smile.gif

You won't see the sort of crazy volume you see with ordinary stocks. There is no volume because you check the buy/sell que, no one is willing to let go unless the offer is really good.

So you can only que the price you want daily and hope for the best, or you can straight offer the 1.12 they want smile.gif
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Sorry. Have to ask this again.

Are divs from MREITs subject to taxes?
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post Feb 23 2012, 04:16 PM

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hi do we have a list of dates that they will give out dividends? or its random every year? the best time to enter on REITs is after they give out dividends right?
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Well, I have never played with REITs before, until Pavilion went on sale at around 88 cents last year... I bought 10 lots via M2U and at least it shot up to a dollar on opening, which is indeed a strong debut, unlike some of the other duds in 2011! biggrin.gif

Right now, Pavilion is holding steady at $1.13, despite a fall of one cent today, and I'm only waiting for the time the dividend payout is announced!
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 23 2012, 03:59 PM)
Sorry. Have to ask this again.

Are divs from MREITs subject to taxes?
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Yes. 10%.
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just went in HEKTAR (last day for divvy tongue.gif) and ATRIUM.

QUOTE(THTgadgets.com @ Feb 23 2012, 04:32 PM)
Well, I have never played with REITs before, until Pavilion went on sale at around 88 cents last year... I bought 10 lots via M2U and at least it shot up to a dollar on opening, which is indeed a strong debut, unlike some of the other duds in 2011! biggrin.gif

Right now, Pavilion is holding steady at $1.13, despite a fall of one cent today, and I'm only waiting for the time the dividend payout is announced!
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can i have pavillion REIT counter number? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Feb 23 2012, 04:42 PM)
can i have pavillion REIT counter number?  icon_question.gif
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Here you go, mate - 5212
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QUOTE(THTgadgets.com @ Feb 23 2012, 04:44 PM)
Here you go, mate - 5212
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thanks biggrin.gif

i am planning to either get PAVREIT or PANAMY

anyone can comment on it? notworthy.gif


Added on February 23, 2012, 4:51 pm1 more thing that i jsut realize on REIT. correct me if i am wrong blush.gif

everytime divvy payout, the divvy given will be deducted from the share price (eg HEKTAR giving out 3c divvy. so when it payout the divvy, its price will drop 3c)

since REIT counter volume are low, means the price will rarely go up. doesnt this mean the counter will drop more than it go up? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Feb 23 2012, 04:47 PM)
thanks biggrin.gif

i am planning to either get PAVREIT or PANAMY

anyone can comment on it?  notworthy.gif


Added on February 23, 2012, 4:51 pm1 more thing that i jsut realize on REIT. correct me if i am wrong blush.gif

everytime divvy payout, the divvy given will be deducted from the share price (eg HEKTAR giving out 3c divvy. so when it payout the divvy, its price will drop 3c)

since REIT counter volume are low, means the price will rarely go up. doesnt this mean the counter will drop more than it go up? rclxub.gif
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Volume low, doesn't mean price rarely go up or down.
Even volume is low generally, there are still transaction done everyday.

If reit price drop more than go up, it just make the reit more attractive if div continue to be the same.
If price deducted after div, and price doesn't recover back, it makes the yield even higher for next div or new reit buyer.


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