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post Nov 5 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(omgimnoob @ Nov 5 2011, 08:56 PM)
Someone please translate this.
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lol.. Google translate it?
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QUOTE(omgimnoob @ Nov 5 2011, 08:56 PM)
Someone please translate this.
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You want Tamil or Malay version.

Basically it is saying Axreit is to sell off those low yield properties, names mentioned in English.
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QUOTE(omgimnoob @ Nov 5 2011, 08:56 PM)
Someone please translate this.
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Google direct translate

In addition, despite the support of long-term lease agreement, the company intends to divest three assets, including Serdang South City Plaza (South City Plaza), Sime UEP buildings and warehouses Lun Mindanao, the main location and the rental market is not ideal due.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 5 2011, 09:26 PM)
You want Tamil or Malay version.

Basically it is saying Axreit is to sell off those low yield properties,  names mentioned in English.
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sorry it's for Arreit whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2011, 12:01 AM

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Thank you a lot a lot Brother SKY 1809!!!!

i've read up a lot on the REIT after being inspired by u moments ago.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

let me bow and take my hats off 2u notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

i mite diverse some of my fund into it at later stage.. smile.gif

what i can conclude is this:

1) in KLSe, there's 13 reit. is it correct?

2) Its preferably that one keep the REIT for 1-2 years to get the dividend so that it can cover the brokerage fee and really yield the dividend. Is this assumption correct?

3) The price do not fluctuate much. So most probably will be selling at the same price too. Is this correct?

Is there anything else tat i can add on to my newbie knowledge on REIT, all beloved sifus and gurus?.. notworthy.gif

DOUBLE RESPECT~~~!!!!!
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Nov 6 2011, 12:01 AM)
Thank you a lot a lot Brother SKY 1809!!!!

i've read up a lot on the REIT after being inspired by u moments ago.. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

let me bow and take my hats off 2u notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

i mite diverse some of my fund into it at later stage.. smile.gif

what i can conclude is this:

1) in KLSe, there's 13 reit. is it correct?

2) Its preferably that one keep the REIT for 1-2 years to get the dividend so that it can cover the brokerage fee and really yield the dividend. Is this assumption correct?

3) The price do not fluctuate much. So most probably will be selling at the same price too. Is this correct?

Is there anything else tat i can add on to my newbie knowledge on REIT, all beloved sifus and gurus?.. notworthy.gif

DOUBLE RESPECT~~~!!!!!
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Cherroy will welcome you with open arms
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post Nov 6 2011, 12:21 AM

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If Sungei Wang got REIT, I'll put in at least 500k.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Nov 6 2011, 12:07 AM)
Cherroy will welcome you with open arms
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me still newbie here...need a lot of guidance in this area..all this while was on equities and totally din take a look at this area..

how sad of me.. cry.gif cry.gif

sifus and gurus, silalah tunjuk ajar.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Nov 6 2011, 12:21 AM)
If Sungei Wang got REIT, I'll put in at least 500k.
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Sg Wang came under Capital Malls which is listed as REIT
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hektareit hohoho divvy annouce liau ....

HEKTAR 1.29 1.30 0.025 21/11/2011
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Nov 6 2011, 01:07 AM)
hektareit hohoho divvy annouce liau ....

HEKTAR  1.29  1.30  0.025  21/11/2011
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Your pocket heavy a bit liau.. Macam ka ching sounds alot
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Nov 6 2011, 12:01 AM)
1) in KLSe, there's 13 reit. is it correct?

2) Its preferably that one keep the REIT for 1-2 years to get the dividend so that it can cover the brokerage fee and really yield the dividend. Is this assumption correct?

3) The price do not fluctuate much. So most probably will be selling at the same price too. Is this correct?

Is there anything else tat i can add on to my newbie knowledge on REIT, all beloved sifus and gurus?.. notworthy.gif

DOUBLE RESPECT~~~!!!!!
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1. I no count. You don't need rocket science to know that, right, just click the reit sector and see how many inside, be it from brokers online platform or KLSE website

2. If you want to keep reit 1-2 years, I advise this may not a place to be.
Dividend (the correct word is distribution) yield is ranged from 5.x% - 8.x% currently across.
It is far more enough to cover the brokerage.
Any capital appreciation is surplus, it is like fixed income instrument.

Reit shouldn't be up like ordinary stock, upside is capped by its yield.
While rental generally in at least 2-3 years lease, you won't see a sudden rise in rental/income of the reit generally, until rental market shoot up significant upon renewal, which generally unlikely to happen.

3. Wrong, It can fluctuate if there is problem in economy of properties market.
Axreit did fall to 1.00 when 2008 crisis on its height time, do did Qcap dropped to 0.8x.
Just in normal day, it generally won't fluctuate much, because its earning is highly predictable, just a little % difference.

Reit can go burst due to high leverage as well. There were a number of reit (overseas) went burst during 2008 when refinancing cannot be obtained.

The correct mindset of investing in reit is about owned a property and collect rental.
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Nov 6 2011, 12:21 AM)
If Sungei Wang got REIT, I'll put in at least 500k.
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Ok, next week see you put 500k in it (CMMT). biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 6 2011, 01:16 AM)
Ok, next week see you put 500k in it (CMMT).  biggrin.gif
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EPF collecting CMMT lately.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 6 2011, 01:15 AM)
1. I no count. You don't need rocket science to know that, right, just click the reit sector and see how many inside, be it from brokers online platform or KLSE website

2. If you want to keep reit 1-2 years, I advise this may not a place to be.
Dividend (the correct word is distribution) yield is ranged from 5.x% - 8.x% currently across.
It is far more enough to cover the brokerage.
Any capital appreciation is surplus, it is like fixed income instrument.

Reit shouldn't be up like ordinary stock, upside is capped by its yield.
While rental generally in at least 2-3 years lease, you won't see a sudden rise in rental/income of the reit generally, until rental market shoot up significant upon renewal, which generally unlikely to happen.

3. Wrong, It can fluctuate if there is problem in economy of properties market.
Axreit did fall to 1.00 when 2008 crisis on its height time, do did Qcap dropped to 0.8x.
Just in normal day, it generally won't fluctuate much, because its earning is highly predictable, just a little % difference.

Reit can go burst due to high leverage as well. There were a number of reit (overseas) went burst during 2008 when refinancing cannot be obtained.

The correct mindset of investing in reit is about owned a property and collect rental.
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alrite..thanx a lot sifu cherroy for the kind explanation!!! i like ur last statement "The correct mindset of investing in reit is about owned a property and collect rental.".. so the rental comes in the form of 'distribution', while the buying/selling price is the price of the "property" owned. nod.gif nod.gif
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post Nov 6 2011, 09:29 AM

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Ok, next week see you put 500k in it (CMMT).  biggrin.gif
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I thought CMMT only managing South City, Mines, etc..

Anyway where do we able to see who are the tenants of the REITs?
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post Nov 6 2011, 09:49 AM

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Isn't South City managed by ARReits?

The REIT's Annual Reports contains the Top 10 tenants.

This post has been edited by Dias: Nov 6 2011, 09:50 AM
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post Nov 6 2011, 10:33 AM

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Is ARREIT partly backed by the Government?


Added on November 6, 2011, 10:51 am
QUOTE(gark @ Oct 24 2011, 06:54 PM)
Hmm read it as well, offer price 0.88, yield expected to be 6.5%. Still better than CMMT (5.9%) and Sunway (5.6%) which operates big malls as well, except for Hektar (8.05%) , but hektar is a much smaller player.

However Pavillion REIT is not too bad compared to similar Mall REIT's. But for malls & office combo I still like Suntec REIT with 8.5% yield.  rclxms.gif
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How do we trade in SGX? Can share the procedure to open a CDS, broking account, etc???


Added on November 6, 2011, 11:01 amGonna diversify my portfolio into REIT. My targeted 2-3 REITs:

1) PAVREIT - 0.88
2) QCAPITA - 1.05

Another one probably TWRREIT or STAREIT or SUNREIT, which one do you think is worth to invest now?

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Nov 6 2011, 09:29 AM)
I thought CMMT only managing South City, Mines, etc..

Anyway where do we able to see who are the tenants of the REITs?
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Most reit has their own website which you can go through the details, including annual report.

CMMT - Sungai Wang, Gurney Plaza Penang.


Added on November 6, 2011, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(echoesian @ Nov 6 2011, 10:33 AM)
Is ARREIT partly backed by the Government?


Added on November 6, 2011, 10:51 am

How do we trade in SGX? Can share the procedure to open a CDS, broking account, etc???


Added on November 6, 2011, 11:01 amGonna diversify my portfolio into REIT. My targeted 2-3 REITs:

1) PAVREIT - 0.88
2) QCAPITA - 1.05

Another one probably TWRREIT or STAREIT or SUNREIT, which one do you think is worth to invest now?
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Local brokers general do offer such a service, you can ask them, it is different account generally.

Among the 2, I preferred Qcap instead of Pav, (sorry I may be bias, I owned Qcap), as it has better yield near 8%, discount on NAV as well.
Also Qcap is more diversified, compared to Pav.
I particular like Qcap's Tesco, its location is a golden/prime location, and value of land at there only will go up in the long term, as well as Tesco long term lease of more than 20 years.

Among three (TW, Star, Sun), I only owned Stareit, as it can provide steady long term yield, as all its properties already in long term lease already, most at least 15 years.
Although it has limited upside due to boring yield (as it won't improve further much as rental is fixed for long term already), it has little gearing, which is somehow very comfortable and reduce the risk of refinancing.
Low gearing, means they have room to leverage to have better yield, but personally view, it is better with low gearing.

Just my personal view, don't take it as advice as I may be little bias. smile.gif

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Nov 6 2011, 09:29 AM)
I thought CMMT only managing South City, Mines, etc..

Anyway where do we able to see who are the tenants of the REITs?
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http://www.capitamallsmalaysia.com/portfolio_overview.html

CMMT has
Gurney Plaza, Penang
The Mines, Selangor
Sungai Wang Plaza, Kuala Lumpur

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