QUOTE(hmn @ Mar 8 2012, 08:37 AM)
Huh? What do you mean??? Normally how many units you guys buy to minimize brokerage fee? How to calculate it? Sorry newbie here REIT V3, Real Estate Investment Trust
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Mar 8 2012, 10:05 AM
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Mar 8 2012, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(bryan5073 @ Mar 7 2012, 07:33 PM) Why do REIT stocks in Malaysia have such low volumes? Liquidity is still low, and size of reit is not large enough, not many investors know.Is it a problem for you guys regarding liquidity? Wanna start invest soon, and REITs seem like the safest stocks to start with. I was told retail REITS (CMMT, SUNREIT, PAVREIT, HEKTAR) are the safest, what say you? Unless one is talking about investing a few millions onwards, one should have any problem of liquidating for the liquidity issue. There is not such thing of safest. All are subjected to different kind of risk due to individual properties sector and portfolio. It is better to study briefly what are the properties they are holding, what is the gearing ratio etc. instead blatantly said safer or safest. |
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Mar 8 2012, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(hmn @ Mar 8 2012, 08:37 AM) For OSK, the minimum brokerage fees is RM28 or 0.4% of what you gonna pay, whichever comes first. 500 units means only 5 lots, means the RM28 charged up front, it's gonna take some time for the stock to gain back the 28 for you...QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 8 2012, 09:32 AM) Sell then buy some more units at cheaper price! Right?QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 8 2012, 10:52 AM) Liquidity is still low, and size of reit is not large enough, not many investors know. Thanks cherroy, hope people gets more informed and excited about REITs, really like them. In terms of safety, I've checked that REITS have one of the lowest beta among all stocks, everyday move also move a bit only (unless there's news la) Unless one is talking about investing a few millions onwards, one should have any problem of liquidating for the liquidity issue. There is not such thing of safest. All are subjected to different kind of risk due to individual properties sector and portfolio. It is better to study briefly what are the properties they are holding, what is the gearing ratio etc. instead blatantly said safer or safest. |
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Mar 8 2012, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 8 2012, 10:52 AM) Liquidity is still low, and size of reit is not large enough, not many investors know. cherroy,Unless one is talking about investing a few millions onwards, one should have any problem of liquidating for the liquidity issue. There is not such thing of safest. All are subjected to different kind of risk due to individual properties sector and portfolio. It is better to study briefly what are the properties they are holding, what is the gearing ratio etc. instead blatantly said safer or safest. are you trying to say we do not need to worry about liquidity issue as we dont transact more than 1 million? |
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Mar 8 2012, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(jeenhao @ Mar 7 2012, 08:39 PM) What I mean is, almost all (I think is all) REITs are raising price since last year Nov and Dec... I wonder if the price will drop later. My question is... Is this a good timing to buy REITs? Sorry, as there's no one in this world could possibly time the market right 100%. So I took your question as "you will open an trading account with osk soon. Any Reits counter which is still worth buying/undervalue at this time?" |
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Mar 8 2012, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(apagranpa10 @ Mar 8 2012, 12:06 PM) Sorry, as there's no one in this world could possibly time the market right 100%. So I took your question as "you will open an trading account with osk soon. Any Reits counter which is still worth buying/undervalue at this time?" So what do you think? Is there any? |
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Mar 8 2012, 12:15 PM
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I opened already. Haha! But need to wait few more days before it's valid. I think I wont buy first because of the brokerage fee.
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Mar 8 2012, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(apagranpa10 @ Mar 8 2012, 01:17 PM) Nav= Net Asset value. Derived from the property valuation of each individual Reit. You will hv to do more homework to get to the intrinsic value. I know how calculate Intrinsic Vale but dunno how to calculate NAV. They're more or less the same, right? I think NAV is given in most of the financial statements of the companies right?By the way, between the 2, which is more important to look at for REITs? |
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Mar 8 2012, 01:45 PM
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Mar 8 2012, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(bryan5073 @ Mar 8 2012, 01:29 PM) I know how calculate Intrinsic Vale but dunno how to calculate NAV. They're more or less the same, right? I think NAV is given in most of the financial statements of the companies right? Dude - on an online stock trading platform, U shd be able to see NAPS (Net Asset Per Share).By the way, between the 2, which is more important to look at for REITs? IMHO, U can roughly judge whether a REIT's market price is at lelong by how much VS its NAPS eg. IF market price $0.70 per unit of share VS NAPS of $1 = nice.. gimme gimme (assuming it's D/E is > 0.6 and ROE is consistently >7% to 8%) IF market price $1 per unit of share VS NAPS of $0.50 = bah... This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Mar 8 2012, 02:00 PM |
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 8 2012, 01:59 PM) Dude - on an online stock trading platform, U shd be able to see NAPS (Net Asset Per Share). Erm... Both my OSK188 and CIMB itrade also didn't show NAPS leh... What platform are you using?IMHO, U can roughly judge whether a REIT's market price is at lelong by how much VS its NAPS eg. IF market price $0.70 per unit of share VS NAPS of $1 = nice.. gimme gimme (assuming it's D/E is > 0.6 and ROE is consistently >7% to 8%) IF market price $1 per unit of share VS NAPS of $0.50 = bah... |
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Mar 8 2012, 02:29 PM
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Mar 8 2012, 04:58 PM
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Maybank, ECM, HwangDBS, OSK said BUY, RHB said HOLD.
Again, REIT is good for long term investment. http://klse.i3investor.com/quoteservlet.jsp?sa=ss&q=AXREIT |
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