i am not getting this game. period. Too old already. old people don't like messy changes blizzard is doing..
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Aug 8 2011, 09:33 PM
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i am not getting this game. period. Too old already. old people don't like messy changes blizzard is doing..
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Aug 8 2011, 10:57 PM
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Aug 8 2011, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Aug 8 2011, 08:42 PM) if u dun like the auction and stuff just ignore it loh.... i know i will.... i nvr purchase any additional stuff before.... i just enjoy the playthrough and the story.... after tat i move on to another game.... nvr care much about the rest. Its not only the auction house that is worrying me. Is the whole go online and store all ur content in the cloud that is the one that is actually worrying me. Imagine, if ActiBliz decide to do the unthinkable and start taking advantage of this fact. Restrict certain things we can and cant do. Charge us for things that may be the norm for PC since back when...The list goes on. And the best part is we cant really do anything abt it coz D3 is deeply embedded in the BattleNet infrastructure. No way of locally saving ur own characters or games. If we decide that ActiBlizzard is going too far with said actions or if somehow they decide to charge us monthly subscription, our copy that we buy of D3 would be just trashware. This not taking into account of other unforseen circumstances:i) Network down ii) company goes bankrupt iii) Hacker to the network infrastructure The list goes on Microsoft tried this with Windows Game Live where they charge for subscription to play online with ur friends(ala Xbox live), but playing online with your friends have always been part of the PC gaming experience and we enjoy it for free long before. That was why Microsoft decide not to continue this. Acti Bliz Battlenet reminds me of this and the best part they aware and they are forcing it down our throats anyway. I duno abt you guys but im the type of gamer who likes to keep a copy of any games bought on shelf for future play through again, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years down the road. I just duno if by then, ActiBliz would support D3 or any games currenlty on Battlenet then. |
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Aug 8 2011, 11:58 PM
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We might as well unplug our phone cable now. Problem solved.
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Aug 9 2011, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(used2bcow @ Aug 8 2011, 11:24 PM) Its not only the auction house that is worrying me. Is the whole go online and store all ur content in the cloud that is the one that is actually worrying me. Imagine, if ActiBliz decide to do the unthinkable and start taking advantage of this fact. Restrict certain things we can and cant do. Charge us for things that may be the norm for PC since back when...The list goes on. And the best part is we cant really do anything abt it coz D3 is deeply embedded in the BattleNet infrastructure. No way of locally saving ur own characters or games. If we decide that ActiBlizzard is going too far with said actions or if somehow they decide to charge us monthly subscription, our copy that we buy of D3 would be just trashware. This not taking into account of other unforseen circumstances: Your weariness is warranted but I don;t think they going towards an mmo monthly sub format, but towards somekind of free to play format. Think of Guild Wars, Lotro and now Age of Conan. All of those titles do it differently but the idea is to charge one time for a copy of the game, and then introduce extra features i.e. quests, zones, cosmetic changes, items, skills etc through expansions or some sort of DLC packs. I do not think they will charge monthly sub for D3 simply because it's in their best interest to have their gamers to play all of their games. They wouldn't want their gamers to be choosing to play either D3 or WoW. It's already a huge commitment just to play them, let alone paying subs for them. i) Network down ii) company goes bankrupt iii) Hacker to the network infrastructure The list goes on Microsoft tried this with Windows Game Live where they charge for subscription to play online with ur friends(ala Xbox live), but playing online with your friends have always been part of the PC gaming experience and we enjoy it for free long before. That was why Microsoft decide not to continue this. Acti Bliz Battlenet reminds me of this and the best part they aware and they are forcing it down our throats anyway. I duno abt you guys but im the type of gamer who likes to keep a copy of any games bought on shelf for future play through again, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years down the road. I just duno if by then, ActiBliz would support D3 or any games currenlty on Battlenet then. |
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Aug 9 2011, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 8 2011, 09:28 PM) Well, with the current state of the game, i dont think i want it anyway, unless the Beta is really good. are you implying you actually want the game if the beta is good? wtf you masochist or something? you keep saying the game is as if the end of the world to you and yet you want to beta test/play/buy it? wtf?I hate the idea of forcing people to go online to play their games which are not MMOs. Just like when Streamyx PMS, i cant even launch Convinction. |
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Aug 9 2011, 06:40 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 9 2011, 01:23 AM) are you implying you actually want the game if the beta is good? wtf you masochist or something? you keep saying the game is as if the end of the world to you and yet you want to beta test/play/buy it? wtf? all this drama kinda reminds me of fallout3 drama its jus a game...why so serious? |
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Aug 9 2011, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 9 2011, 01:23 AM) are you implying you actually want the game if the beta is good? wtf you masochist or something? you keep saying the game is as if the end of the world to you and yet you want to beta test/play/buy it? wtf? Considering how crap is SC2 and how bad D3 looks now, and also the ridiculous pricing, even if it's good, I still have to think twice because this isn't a good quality blizzard game used to make. I never say I won't be beta testing this. It's my choice, not your game. |
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Aug 9 2011, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2011, 07:28 AM) Considering how crap is SC2 and how bad D3 looks now, and also the ridiculous pricing, even if it's good, I still have to think twice because this isn't a good quality blizzard game used to make. here ill make it *EZ* for you: dont get it then. save yourself from touching it as it spells the end of you. stay away from it and you'll be safe I never say I won't be beta testing this. It's my choice, not your game. |
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Aug 9 2011, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(used2bcow @ Aug 8 2011, 11:24 PM) I duno abt you guys but im the type of gamer who likes to keep a copy of any games bought on shelf for future play through again, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years down the road. I just duno if by then, ActiBliz would support D3 or any games currenlty on Battlenet then. Starcraft 2 and Diablo 2 are still very popular after almost 20 years. Any longer than that we will probably be playing the sequels anyway Blizzard currently only have like, 3 main IPs? StarCraft, WarCraft and Diablo. I'm sure they'll support these 3 in the long run. Isn't that what they've always been doing? |
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Aug 9 2011, 09:32 AM
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maybe just start a namelist loh... who want it and who dont want it....
then later the game release see how many ppl convert over and bought the game.... like the SC2 case.... complain a lot then still buy the game. |
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Aug 9 2011, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 9 2011, 12:38 AM) Your weariness is warranted but I don;t think they going towards an mmo monthly sub format, but towards somekind of free to play format. Think of Guild Wars, Lotro and now Age of Conan. All of those titles do it differently but the idea is to charge one time for a copy of the game, and then introduce extra features i.e. quests, zones, cosmetic changes, items, skills etc through expansions or some sort of DLC packs. I do not think they will charge monthly sub for D3 simply because it's in their best interest to have their gamers to play all of their games. They wouldn't want their gamers to be choosing to play either D3 or WoW. It's already a huge commitment just to play them, let alone paying subs for them. Subs just a 'what if' case. In the end, we cant really tell what this co will and will not do. To them, is abt earnings for the year to sate the shareholders. And earnings have to be better than the year before that. In a desperate case, wat is to say that they would not do the unthinkable. My point is more a lack of control on this unforseen things than one specific thing. The question is would you rather have them control ur content and saved game and potentially be able to twisting your arm to play your games on their terms or would you rather have control of ur own content and saved game and play on your own terms...barring not playing the game at all of course.Added on August 9, 2011, 10:16 am QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 9 2011, 08:53 AM) Starcraft 2 and Diablo 2 are still very popular after almost 20 years. Any longer than that we will probably be playing the sequels anyway Support the IP yes, but would they support their older games? look at Sony and support for PS2 games? Cant play em unless u have a PS2 or the older version of PS3.Blizzard currently only have like, 3 main IPs? StarCraft, WarCraft and Diablo. I'm sure they'll support these 3 in the long run. Isn't that what they've always been doing? Let me put this in perspective. Battlenet is their backend infrastructure. They need resources to maintain said infrastructure(Human resource, hardware etc). Resources need money. They will come a time when the number of users for said IP will no longer sustain the cost of maintaining this resources and also profits that they make. They will start to revamp said infrastructure to suit their business need and thus implement this in future iterations of the IP. Can we be certain that we will still be able to play the older iterations of this IPs? Would we leave it up to them to control that? Like i said, i can be pretty nostalgic and revisit this games in later years...but will i be able to play them in 20, 30 years time? Starcraft and Diablo 2 doesnt need battlenet to play as those contents and saved games are still stored locally (for single player games anyways). Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 is not. Yes we dont kno if this is the case in the far future, but i just dont like the fact that we are leaving all this up to them to decide. Added on August 9, 2011, 10:17 am QUOTE(0300078 @ Aug 9 2011, 09:32 AM) maybe just start a namelist loh... who want it and who dont want it.... Lol. i want it. But i don wan the strings attached. then later the game release see how many ppl convert over and bought the game.... like the SC2 case.... complain a lot then still buy the game. This post has been edited by used2bcow: Aug 9 2011, 10:17 AM |
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Aug 9 2011, 10:31 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « blizz still patch sc1, d2 (cant hope to do d1 now can we?) war3. those are pretty old, if you know about it anyways and, you could probably go pirate it, you know, no strings attached |
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Aug 9 2011, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(used2bcow @ Aug 9 2011, 10:04 AM) Support the IP yes, but would they support their older games? look at Sony and support for PS2 games? Cant play em unless u have a PS2 or the older version of PS3. After almost 20 years, blizzard still release patches for their old games. So if anything, I'd assume that they will continue to support their current games for a long time.And our internet connection can only get better as years gone by. |
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Aug 9 2011, 10:41 AM
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no matter what, diablo is my soul i am 95.7% gonna buy it. and decide whether to get the DLC/expansion later on. the first time when i see D3 debut trailer, i had tears in my eyes. after so long...how could i not buy it? how could i not play it? those mouse killing hours...especially played so many clones, so many wannabes...nothing comes close to the real Diablo gameplay experience!
now just hope that i could find some ultra rare items to sell...i'll be fckin rich!!! This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Aug 9 2011, 10:43 AM |
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Aug 9 2011, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 9 2011, 10:40 AM) After almost 20 years, blizzard still release patches for their old games. So if anything, I'd assume that they will continue to support their current games for a long time. No doubt. Hopefully they will release a patch that removes all these restrictions or maybe handover the old battlenet servers over to fans to maintain down the line in the years to come. Seriously i do hope.And our internet connection can only get better as years gone by. |
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Aug 9 2011, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Aug 9 2011, 10:41 AM) the first time when i see D3 debut trailer, i had tears in my eyes. after so long...how could i not buy it? how could i not play it? those mouse killing hours...especially played so many clones, so many wannabes...nothing comes close to the real Diablo gameplay experience! LoL! Just before they show the trailer at Paris, got 1 guy came out with a 12-string accoustic guitar, and strummed the Tristram song. I almost died |
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Aug 9 2011, 10:50 AM
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Aug 9 2011, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 9 2011, 10:40 AM) After almost 20 years, blizzard still release patches for their old games. So if anything, I'd assume that they will continue to support their current games for a long time. i hopeAnd our internet connection can only get better as years gone by. Added on August 9, 2011, 10:57 am QUOTE(used2bcow @ Aug 9 2011, 10:48 AM) No doubt. Hopefully they will release a patch that removes all these restrictions or maybe handover the old battlenet servers over to fans to maintain down the line in the years to come. Seriously i do hope. for restrictions, take war3 for example, they patch it to be no-cd required.as for the servers, dream on lol This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 9 2011, 10:57 AM |
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Aug 9 2011, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 9 2011, 10:31 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « blizz still patch sc1, d2 (cant hope to do d1 now can we?) war3. those are pretty old, if you know about it anyways and, you could probably go pirate it, you know, no strings attached Sorry man..ori all the way. |
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