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RPG Diablo III v2, Q2 2012

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y3ivan
post Aug 8 2011, 11:15 AM

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Its the question on how blizzard going to implement the 'constant internet connection required'.

i guess i was the labrat for Ubi DRM settlers7 and the experience on the first few months was horrendous. Ubi DRM servers constantly deny me from connecting either because by server overloaded or shitmix. Sometimes, the game just kick you out in a middle of a 2 hrs game due connection lost . And i have to start from the last autosave thats 30mins ago. FU ubi. Current patch still requires internet to login, but doesnt require internet connection ingame.

seeing how blizzard have designed 'auction house, ingame economy, constant internet connection required', its pretty much 1 step towards MMORPG and less RPG as what Diablo roots were.
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QUOTE(y3ivan @ Aug 8 2011, 11:15 AM)
Its the question on how blizzard going to implement the 'constant internet connection required'.

i guess i was the labrat for Ubi DRM settlers7 and the experience on the first few months was horrendous. Ubi DRM servers constantly deny me from connecting either because by server overloaded or shitmix. Sometimes, the game just kick you out in a middle of a 2 hrs game due connection lost . And i have to start from the last autosave thats 30mins ago. FU ubi. Current patch still requires internet to login, but doesnt require internet connection ingame.

seeing how blizzard have designed 'auction house, ingame economy, constant internet connection required', its pretty much 1 step towards MMORPG and less RPG as what Diablo roots were.
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Just FYI,
Ubisoft server isn't stable like since ages ago.

I remember we played Vegas and we have a hard time connecting into the online MP.

Potato memang potato. How could they made up into a server? laugh.gif

But I can make sure Blizzard will not have this kind of problem, or at least at the minimal level. Take a look at WoW and SC2.
Problems connecting? NO. Playing yes and that's due to different zoning. So for constant connection with Blizzard server is no problem at all.

And I thought the world have forgotten how much players is in WoW, even now.
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post Aug 8 2011, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Aug 8 2011, 11:22 AM)
Just FYI,
Ubisoft server isn't stable like since ages ago.

I remember we played Vegas and we have a hard time connecting into the online MP.

Potato memang potato. How could they made up into a server? laugh.gif

But I can make sure Blizzard will not have this kind of problem, or at least at the minimal level. Take a look at WoW and SC2.
Problems connecting? NO. Playing yes and that's due to different zoning. So for constant connection with Blizzard server is no problem at all.

And I thought the world have forgotten how much players is in WoW, even now.
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True. Blizzard have a lot more experience and history in dealing with online content. Their online portals are one of, if not the most heavily congested portals in the world. I have good faith that they will deliver a good infrastructure for Diablo.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Aug 8 2011, 11:22 AM)
But I can make sure Blizzard will not have this kind of problem,
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How can you make sure, it's not up to you laugh.gif

QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 8 2011, 11:30 AM)
True. Blizzard have a lot more experience and history in dealing with online content. Their online portals are one of, if not the most heavily congested portals in the world. I have good faith that they will deliver a good infrastructure for Diablo.
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True. But last time Blizzard's networking gurus left and joined Arenanet (Guild Wars).

Took Blizzard a while to come up with a new battle.net.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 8 2011, 02:17 PM)
How can you make sure, it's not up to you laugh.gif
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I'm a Jedi. The force is strong with this one (Blizzard)
I can feel it laugh.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 8 2011, 03:24 PM

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Imagine if too many people are playing Diablo III and you need to be logged into a queue.
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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Aug 8 2011, 03:24 PM)
Imagine if too many people are playing Diablo III and you need to be logged into a queue.
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why would we need to queue to login? Isnt it the same case like the SC2.... u just sign in and play ur own game?
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First they require you to go online. Once you have a profile with all your save games in their servers, they start with offering microtransaction to do the most simplest of managing ur account and content ala wow. (download your saved games to yourlocal machine). Bottom line is, with this, were surrendering control to Blizzard and are at their whim and fancy. THey will eventually control everything and require us to pay for every tom d*** and harry thing. Look at the auction house for example. Its the beginning of the end.
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QUOTE(used2bcow @ Aug 8 2011, 03:48 PM)
First they require you to go online. Once you have a profile with all your save games in their servers, they start with offering microtransaction to do the most simplest of managing ur account and content ala wow. (download your saved games to yourlocal machine). Bottom line is, with this, were surrendering control to Blizzard and are at their whim and fancy. THey will eventually control everything and require us to pay for every tom d*** and harry thing. Look at the auction house for example. Its the beginning of the end.
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In what sense D3 deserve much more than WoW? nor the microtransaction you talked about when people will just put the game aside once they finished it, which is less than 1 month. Auction house is just a side option. You no moolah you don't use it.
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post Aug 8 2011, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Aug 8 2011, 03:56 PM)
In what sense D3 deserve much more than WoW? nor the microtransaction you talked about when people will just put the game aside once they finished it, which is less than 1 month. Auction house is just a side option. You no moolah you don't use it.
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Coz D3 backend is the same backend as WOW. Battlenet. One system to rule them all. You think if that was the case, Blizzard would have the Auction House? Blizzard anticipates that soon after finishing it, ppl will come back for more. Especially so when new contents are introduced. If D2 is any indication, ppl will be back for more looong after finishing it the first time. Yes auction house can trade in gold or cash. But dont you think that if a particular item is being featured in an only cash option, that ppl would not be tempted to spend moola? Worse of all, Blizzard gets a cut from whateve cash transaction. So yes it is a side option but BLizzard intention is to reverse psyche you in believing that. SO once you in, u have no choice coz by the time u realised it, u have invested in it too much.

Now im not against this if this was more the exception than the rule but seeing how all this is being set up, you cant help but wonder the intentions of this companies...especially so when Activision is involved...and u kno from history how they're like.

Im an avid Diablo fan, but having such a "be all and end all" system just ostracise the existing fans. Even more insulting is the guise that we actually have a choice when actually we dont. Yes, we have a choice to buy the game or not. But really is that what its come to now?

Now if you feel that you need to spend your hard earn cash on those additional stuff that by tradition is free, then by all means. But, i'd prefer to have a little bit of control and not having to pay for it. You may not see it now, but im willing to bet that things are just going to get worst from here on. If anyone things otherwise, do enlighten. Though 'You no moolah you don't use it' is hardly an argument. so weak.
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QUOTE(used2bcow @ Aug 8 2011, 04:20 PM)
Coz D3 backend is the same backend as WOW. Battlenet. One system to rule them all. You think if that was the case, Blizzard would have the Auction House? Blizzard anticipates that soon after finishing it, ppl will come back for more. Especially so when new contents are introduced. If D2 is any indication, ppl will be back for more looong after finishing it the first time. Yes auction house can trade in gold or cash. But dont you think that if a particular item is being featured in an only cash option, that ppl would not be tempted to spend moola? Worse of all, Blizzard gets a cut from whateve cash transaction. So yes it is a side option but BLizzard intention is to reverse psyche you in believing that. SO once you in, u have no choice coz by the time u realised it, u have invested in it too much.

Now im not against this if this was more the exception than the rule but seeing how all this is being set up, you cant help but wonder the intentions of this companies...especially so when Activision is involved...and u kno from history how they're like.

Im an avid Diablo fan, but having such a "be all and end all" system just ostracise the existing fans. Even more insulting is the guise that we actually have a choice when actually we dont. Yes, we have a choice to buy the game or not. But really is that what its come to now?

Now if you feel that you need to spend your hard earn cash on those additional stuff that by tradition is free, then by all means. But, i'd prefer to have a little bit of control and not having to pay for it. You may not see it now, but im willing to bet that things are just going to get worst from here on. If anyone things otherwise, do enlighten. Though  'You no moolah you don't use it' is hardly an argument. so weak.
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You sounds like a maple story player who pay way too much to AsiaSoft for Cash Item to me. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Aug 8 2011, 04:37 PM)
You sounds like a maple story player who pay way too much to AsiaSoft for Cash Item to me. whistling.gif
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smile.gif. How you figure that?
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Aug 8 2011, 04:46 PM)
Your avatar tells me all laugh.gif
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if u dun like the auction and stuff just ignore it loh.... i know i will.... i nvr purchase any additional stuff before.... i just enjoy the playthrough and the story.... after tat i move on to another game.... nvr care much about the rest.
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Aug 8 2011, 08:42 PM)
if u dun like the auction and stuff just ignore it loh.... i know i will.... i nvr purchase any additional stuff before.... i just enjoy the playthrough and the story.... after tat i move on to another game.... nvr care much about the rest.
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I dont agree with the auction house not because it allows people to use money, but they are legalising gold farming for those gold farmers who are forced play 14 hours a day just to sell loot. All because Activision Blizzard wants to earn some steady income from the Diablo 3 community. It's unethical, because gold farming is never something good to begin with.

Personally, i wont use it, just like TF2's Mann Co shop that i will just ignore it.

Also, the always online shit. Even SC2 server had some minor problems at the beginning. And i hate to let my internet connection entirely to determine whether i can play a game i bought or not.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Aug 8 2011, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 8 2011, 08:50 PM)
I dont agree with the auction house not because it allows people to use money, but they are legalising gold farming for those gold farmers who are forced play 14 hours a day just to sell loot. All because Activision Blizzard wants to earn some steady income from the Diablo 3 community. It's unethical, because gold farming is never something good to begin with.

Personally, i wont use it, just like TF2's Mann Co shop that i will just ignore it.

Also, the always online shit. Even SC2 server had some minor problems at the beginning. And i hate to let my internet connection entirely to determine whether i can play a game i bought or not.
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u could either retire and drop this crap game, there are plenty of other games that doesnt require ONLINE.
It is not like end of the world where blizzard and Ubisoft is the only company that makes good games. whistling.gif

besides all these DRM tricks can be crack easily, it just makes piracy version of the game A LOT better than the original ones. The way these companies tries to punish their legit players are inviting motivation for more piracy.

Cut the damn selling price, selling in huge volume, where they actually learn this is the only ultimate way to reduce piracy? Arent Steam weekly huge discount prove it already?
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one thing, gold farmers has nothing to do with us if we are gonna play solo or with friends only right? what harm it could be? unless we are gonna take it online PvP, then staying online wouldnt be a problem. i just worry blizzard would make rare/unique items drop rate become really low. so ppl will have to buy them online if they want some uber weapons or stuff. hmm... seeing acti is a greedy whore. maybe they will sell weapons in the future. laugh.gif or forced to buy DLC else get our characters locked. hahaha...

but i do agree that bliz should give us option to make offline characters. no online protection version, ask user to click acknowledge the risk and proceed offline.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Aug 8 2011, 09:18 PM)
one thing, gold farmers has nothing to do with us if we are gonna play solo or with friends only right? what harm it could be? unless we are gonna take it online PvP, then staying online wouldnt be a problem. i just worry blizzard would make rare/unique items drop rate become really low. so ppl will have to buy them online if they want some uber weapons or stuff. hmm... seeing acti is a greedy whore. maybe they will sell weapons in the future. laugh.gif or forced to buy DLC else get our characters locked. hahaha...

but i do agree that bliz should give us option to make offline characters. no online protection version, ask user to click acknowledge the risk and proceed offline.
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sad.gif why do u think actiblizzard spend so much effort to create auction place in the first place ...
there is nothing for u to worry, since realy money is involved, u should already know the answer.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Aug 8 2011, 09:10 PM)
u could either retire and drop this crap game, there are plenty of other games that doesnt require ONLINE.
It is not like end of the world where blizzard and Ubisoft is the only company that makes good games.  whistling.gif 

besides all these DRM tricks can be crack easily, it just makes piracy version of the game A LOT better than the original ones. The way these companies tries to punish their legit players are inviting motivation for more piracy.

Cut the damn selling price, selling in huge volume, where they actually learn this is the only ultimate way to reduce piracy? Arent Steam weekly huge discount prove it already?
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Well, with the current state of the game, i dont think i want it anyway, unless the Beta is really good.

I hate the idea of forcing people to go online to play their games which are not MMOs. Just like when Streamyx PMS, i cant even launch Convinction.

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