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Moogle Stiltzkin
post Dec 30 2011, 02:53 AM

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Update on D3 Korea Decision
POSTED BY DAEITY

News from Ichigo about the SK approval. Another source here and here. This was an update received by Korean news sites yesterday (Dec 28).

The GRB decision has been pushed to either "Mon, Jan 2" or "Wed, Jan 4". (They say Monday, but write the 4th.)

Apparently, there are still concerns about the Battle.net Balance gambling aspect of the RMAH, even though they cut out the cash-out function from the SK version. It's still on target for first week of January, but it appears that their deliberations were postponed again.

Will provide more updates if I can find more sources. Really, this doesn't change much though since we already knew that the first week of January was "decision week".


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post Dec 30 2011, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 30 2011, 01:34 AM)
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But it not fun to ignore using that system, Sometimes it fun to read troll post biggrin.gif .

And you have my respect.

@on topic

About the RMAH, sometimes is not Blizzard fault (OMG, I can’t believe I'm defending them after what the done to SC2 custom maps) but was the rules set by specific country like Korea. What I hope is that they allow us to choose what RMAH region we going to use not just bind our account to SEA region only (just like SC2).
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One more Diablo III console development job opening for 2011

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At this point, the "Diablo III is probably coming to consoles" thing is like a joke without a punchline. We just keep building and building on the premise, but there's no release in sight. Still, Blizzard keeps giving us material for the setup, this time in the form of another job posting on Gamasutra for a Console Network Senior Software Engineer.

In English, Egon? According to the job listing, "this position is responsible for ensuring the best implementation of sophisticated networking systems on consoles."

Last time we checked, Diablo III game director Jay Wilson said "we don't want to announce something until we're sure." Blizzard sure does hire a lot of people without being sure!


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post Dec 30 2011, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(xeonsam @ Dec 30 2011, 08:38 AM)
But it not fun to ignore using that system, Sometimes it fun to read troll post  biggrin.gif .

And you have my respect.

@on topic

About the RMAH, sometimes is not Blizzard fault (OMG, I can’t believe I'm defending them after what the done to SC2 custom maps) but was the rules set by specific country like Korea. What I hope is that they allow us to choose what RMAH region we going to use not just bind our account to SEA region only (just like SC2).
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assuming you're replying directly to me and not sichiri - while i dont think i've done anything that deserved your respect, you have my thanks i guess ^^;

on that topic, in the end i think it is their fault, as it is their decision to make. surely, one can say that it is due to the illegal/black market item trading that forced their hand, however again, the decision was still theirs to make. it could be for better or for worse, i wouldn't speculate just yet as its just not something that we have experienced personally (please dont drag other games that has done it into this) however i can dare say based on the current situation within this forum, it looks like it is heading towards the latter (worse).

in fact, in korea, d3 will NOT have rmah (well the system is there, just that they cant cash out into RM) due to the regulations of the country, probably trying to preserve the "gaming integrity" that country is rather famed for. blizz just dont want to have unwanted delays only in korea because they have not gotten approval for RMAH (which they are working on it still)
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Guys, do you think fi we play D3 on US server lag or not?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 28 2011, 11:39 PM)
Diablo 3 is a hack and slash genre. I would also say it's more of a SEMI mmorpg. Meaning it's has co-op multiplayer, but max 4 people in a party when doing co-op. Also unlike WOW, D3 has a single player mode (although i personally find that less fun, although it's there if you like that sort of thing). For pvp, it's done in an arena, max 3 vs 3 if i'm not mistaken.

There is another game called Guild Wars 2 being made. It's also a hack and slash genre. But it's a proper mmorpg but what sets it appart from World of warcraft is it is NOT a pay to play system. You just buy the game and play as much as you want without further payments needed.

I'm not sure if Blizzard would want to go down a MMORPG without a p2p system, since they made such profits from the likes of Wow. But the fact of the matter is, they will have to comepete strongly against the likes of Guild Wars 2 which will attract a lot of people because of the lack of p2p (pay 2 play).
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actually i like playing offline.. since i'm not into Online gaming (MMORPG) so tat's why was asking will D3 will be like D2 playing only offline?
if play battle.NET will it be like WoW's playing style? like 1st person shooter? because i easily get dizzy.. if playing style stay the same as D2,ragnarok i think shud be fine

btw is there any timeframe or ETA of D3?

This post has been edited by milky: Jan 1 2012, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Jan 1 2012, 08:16 AM)
Guys, do you think fi we play D3 on US server lag or not?
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how about no?

i played both sc2 and WoW retail and both i do not seem to find lag excessively until i couldn't play at all

to stop all the debating, why not wait for the full release which is hopefully soon
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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Jan 1 2012, 08:16 AM)
Guys, do you think fi we play D3 on US server lag or not?
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Based on beta experience, no.

A bit of lag during start up other than that no.
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have they fixed the sudden dc will make you lost progress? even in SP?
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oh my god. my supplier just notified me yesterday saying D3 NA and SEA may be region locked same as SC2.

Is this confirmed?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/services/auction-house/regions#q3


So just like Sc2, D3 SEA can access both US and SEA regions.

If you get D3 NA, then only access NA only.


shocking.gif now i'm confused which to get. If i get D3 NA, will i still be flagged for SEA rmah ? If so can i still use SEA rmah, even if my char is located on NA server ? And if not, can i then use NA rmah ?


I found the previous blizzard statement saying no region lock like Sc2, meaning doesn't matter if you get NA or SEA, you can create a char in any region. The only limitation is which native RMAH you can use, also no accessing other character stashes cross region.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=280346

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthr...t-not-currency)

So both of these 2 different sources seem contradictory :/ any ideas ??




QUOTE(kianweic @ Jan 2 2012, 12:58 AM)
Based on beta experience, no.

A bit of lag during start up other than that no.
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But the thing is, when game goes live the stress on server will be that much higher :/ By the way what internet connection do you have ?


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I found a source from 27th December saying that it isn't region locked like Sc2. In fact they compiled all sources from blizzard statements on the matter.

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Q. can I play with friends from other regions? live in SEA. I make a Character in SEA. Can I play with my friend who stays in EU and has an EU Character? (play with my friend = go on boss runs with him etc.)

A. You can, but you’d need to log in to the EU region and create a character to begin playing with him, or he’d need to make one in your region. If you’re on your character in SEA and he’s on his in EU you’d be able to talk to each other using your BattleTag or Real ID, but that’s it. You have to be on the same region to play together.



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Q. So it is possible to buy Diablo 3 anywhere in the world, and to make a character in any regional server you choose in this case?

A. We haven’t announced anything along those lines because as far as I know it’s not nailed down. We do pursue different business models and prices in different regions, and so we’d want to ensure that those offerings are for who they’re intended. I just don’t have specifics for you, but it’s something we’ll need to announce before ship.


http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...issues-and-more


So in bashiok's remark, he is saying making character is non region lock. But then in his second remark he takes a u turn and says nothing is certain .... wtf ?

And as mentioned, my supplier just informed me yesterday it's going to be region locked quoting the bnet page which stated sc2 region lock (i noticed this page was mentioned a few months back by other people, so it doesn't seem to be new information).

So is it region lock or not :/ ?

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Only can sure when the game is near release date.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 3 2012, 04:42 AM)
oh my god. my supplier just notified me yesterday saying D3 NA and SEA may be region locked same as SC2.

Is this confirmed?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/services/auction-house/regions#q3
So just like Sc2, D3 SEA can access both US and SEA regions.

If you get D3 NA, then only access NA only.
shocking.gif now i'm confused which to get. If i get D3 NA, will i still be flagged for SEA rmah ? If so can i still use SEA rmah, even if my char is located on NA server ? And if not, can i then use NA rmah ?
I found the previous blizzard statement saying no region lock like Sc2, meaning doesn't matter if you get NA or SEA, you can create a char in any region. The only limitation is which native RMAH you can use, also no accessing other character stashes cross region.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=280346

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthr...t-not-currency)

So both of these 2 different sources seem contradictory :/ any ideas ??
But the thing is, when game goes live the stress on server will be that much higher :/  By the way what internet connection do you have ?
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I found a source from 27th December saying that it isn't region locked like Sc2. In fact they compiled all sources from blizzard statements on the matter.
http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...issues-and-more
So in bashiok's remark, he is saying making character is non region lock. But then in his second remark he takes a u turn and says nothing is certain .... wtf ?

And as mentioned, my supplier just informed me yesterday it's going to be region locked quoting the bnet page which stated sc2 region lock (i noticed this page was mentioned a few months back by other people, so it doesn't seem to be new information).

So is it region lock or not :/ ?
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that's a very bad news, but isnt saying d3 is region locked abit fake?

since if u get collector edition sea, you still can access to us, its like they are taking every chances to take your money since most of us wanted to access to us server.
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hi guys,

i got noob question here. Bout that RMAH and paypal stuff.....so this game still need us to buy item with real money? (eventho we already purchase the box set)

Is this confirm...? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jan 3 2012, 08:50 AM)
hi guys,

i got noob question here. Bout that RMAH and paypal stuff.....so this game still need us to buy item with real money? (eventho we already purchase the box set)

Is this confirm...?  unsure.gif
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knowing blizzard, the best of the best items probably can't be RMAH'ed, and at the end of the day, blizzard games are quite high in "gaming integrity" compared to the rest so i think it is safe to say that if you DON'T want to spend real money for in game items in d3, you DON'T have to and i don't think you will be put at huge disadvantage (if any)

that has been the case for WoW and WoW has always and will be (in the foreseeable future) blizzard's greatest cash cow.

to the rest: let's be real, you are very far away from america, and no matter how well your technology go (at least for the near future), you WILL have lag delays.

the major difference with d3 is the upgraded netcode which they have experimented (and somewhat failed) during early beta stages of sc2. sc2 has been a ton better than war3, with the combination of better internet (tmnut screamyx/unifi) and better netcode, and word is out on the net is that d3 netcode is further improved and delays are VERY minimal despite the over 200ms ping.

furthermore, they already have localized servers in SEA region (singapore) and while you may not be playing there directly, high chances are the relays/hops towards US would be far better due to localized blizzard servers to monitor and address any latency/delays/connectivity issue (they have to update towards central HQ afterall, works for all companies not just blizzard if you're ever in the networking/isp/telco scene)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 3 2012, 10:31 AM)
knowing blizzard, the best of the best items probably can't be RMAH'ed, and at the end of the day, blizzard games are quite high in "gaming integrity" compared to the rest so i think it is safe to say that if you DON'T want to spend real money for in game items in d3, you DON'T have to and i don't think you will be put at huge disadvantage (if any)

that has been the case for WoW and WoW has always and will be (in the foreseeable future) blizzard's greatest cash cow.

to the rest: let's be real, you are very far away from america, and no matter how well your technology go (at least for the near future), you WILL have lag delays.

the major difference with d3 is the upgraded netcode which they have experimented (and somewhat failed) during early beta stages of sc2. sc2 has been a ton better than war3, with the combination of better internet (tmnut screamyx/unifi) and better netcode, and word is out on the net is that d3 netcode is further improved and delays are VERY minimal despite the over 200ms ping.

furthermore, they already have localized servers in SEA region (singapore) and while you may not be playing there directly, high chances are the relays/hops towards US would be far better due to localized blizzard servers to monitor and address any latency/delays/connectivity issue (they have to update towards central HQ afterall, works for all companies not just blizzard if you're ever in the networking/isp/telco scene)
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hmmm...this RMAH gonna take out the fun in this game...all rich kid will buying to pawn ppl like me...sigh....I love the old way experience of Diablo where u find or create your own item. sad.gif
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jan 3 2012, 01:35 PM)
hmmm...this RMAH gonna take out the fun in this game...all rich kid will buying to pawn ppl like me...sigh....I love the old way experience of Diablo where u find or create your own item.  sad.gif
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You should read this http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthr...ook-at-the-RMAH

It doesn't matter whether have RMAH or not, people still will use illegal way dealing.

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QUOTE(xeonsam @ Jan 3 2012, 02:23 PM)
You should read this http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthr...ook-at-the-RMAH

It doesn't matter whether have RMAH or not, people still will use illegal way dealing.
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I like the last sentences :

But do I think it will ruin the game? Honestly I don't know. We'll have to just wait and play the game.

The RMAH is a pretty big "leap of faith" on Blizzard's part, and I'm curious to see how it works out. Despite the fact that I'm very upset with Blizzard over many other things, I am still very excited for Diablo 3!


tqs dude
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The fun in D3 is you and friends going up against thousands of demons, undead, what nots. Its not about pwning some random dude. So why is the RMAH going to ruin the game?

This isn't a pvp game. In fact, Blizzard has said they wouldn't even try to balance the pvp.

And the amount of rather... silly... questions popping up on a daily basis. What on earth is with that?

Every day I see this thread, and I die a little inside.
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Sometimes PvP would spoil the game. Many things would be altered in hopes of balances. Skills, spells, weapons etc. But you can't escape those from happening as long as they're gonna introduce anything remotely close to competitive PvP, like, say, an Arena option. People are gonna get owned from imbalances and people are gonna complain.

Blizzard's next MMO (Titans) is said to be developed with PvP mind, from the ground up. So for those who are verily into pvp, please wait for that game laugh.gif

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